Update Season X - "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas Vol. I."

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Who cares about the cruise scam.. it sounds like he was offered some open buffet cruise where they could go anytime and anywhere for $800 and took it, and it ended up not being a real thing.

Let's hear more and encourage him to go after Allison. It will give him something to do!

He'll be in even more debt.  I may be critical of him, but at least I offer rational advice.  Pursuing a girlfriend (or anything that will increase his spending) is not what he should be doing right now.

Better he spend it on her than on other frivolous things. His parents give him money. He may as well use it to potentially make himself happier and build a life of his own.

But he won't substitute the spending that he does now for money on his girlfriend.  He'll just ask for more money.  And if somehow he does get his $40,000/year job, we've already established that he won't have much (if any) money to live on, so having a girlfriend without his parents subsidizing him could lead to increased credit card debt.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Who cares about the cruise scam.. it sounds like he was offered some open buffet cruise where they could go anytime and anywhere for $800 and took it, and it ended up not being a real thing.

Let's hear more and encourage him to go after Allison. It will give him something to do!

He'll be in even more debt.  I may be critical of him, but at least I offer rational advice.  Pursuing a girlfriend (or anything that will increase his spending) is not what he should be doing right now.

Better he spend it on her than on other frivolous things. His parents give him money. He may as well use it to potentially make himself happier and build a life of his own.

But he won't substitute the spending that he does now for money on his girlfriend.  He'll just ask for more money.  And if somehow he does get his $40,000/year job, we've already established that he won't have much (if any) money to live on, so having a girlfriend without his parents subsidizing him could lead to increased credit card debt.

Damn man, go away if you're going to pooh pooh the good story lines.  K?  Thx. 

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Who cares about the cruise scam.. it sounds like he was offered some open buffet cruise where they could go anytime and anywhere for $800 and took it, and it ended up not being a real thing.

Let's hear more and encourage him to go after Allison. It will give him something to do!

He'll be in even more debt.  I may be critical of him, but at least I offer rational advice.  Pursuing a girlfriend (or anything that will increase his spending) is not what he should be doing right now.

Better he spend it on her than on other frivolous things. His parents give him money. He may as well use it to potentially make himself happier and build a life of his own.

But he won't substitute the spending that he does now for money on his girlfriend.  He'll just ask for more money.  And if somehow he does get his $40,000/year job, we've already established that he won't have much (if any) money to live on, so having a girlfriend without his parents subsidizing him could lead to increased credit card debt.

Damn man, go away if you're going to pooh pooh the good story lines.  K?  Thx. 

It's good advice.  Most of the people here know this would be a disaster for Jeff, but they want him to do it because Jeff's interactions with girls are, and I'll admit it, quite hilarious.  We already know he's had sex with his past girlfriends, and what's he going to do--ask his parents for condom money?  So unless he's relying on her to provide the birth control, if Jeff succumbs to his manly temptations, he could have a major problem on his hands.  The guy doesn't think before he acts; getting a girlfriend would be wholeheartedly irresponsible.  He's already posted her name on the forum which has led to half the people reading this thread Facebook stalking her.  We've heard this storyline before, and it never ends well.  He's been lucky that it hasn't really blown up in his face before, but the people egging him on to actually take action here need to lay off.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

How is Allison? Did you talk to her yesterday? Have you asked her out yet on a date?

I talked to her for about 30 minutes yesterday.  She is well.  Yesterday was like the second time we've talked, so no date yet.

30 minutes! That's terribly long! She must have had a great day. Are you planning your first date? What kind of night are you thinking?

NO!  You are all terrible.

Bushie, cease talking to her for 3 days.  Not 2, not 4.  THREE!

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Forget about Bushie, if anyone needs laid its Inks. 

[WalterMitty]

my guess is that bushie will be aiming for an easter 2014 wedding, always could be moved up to valentine's day.

bushie, do you plan on naming your first born son jeff jr?

[Lief 🗽]

Inks, Bushie's family is apparently one of the richest in all of Oklahoma. I've literally never met anyone that buys a brand new car, or purchases a fancy brand new tablet laptop thing for their son so he can watch porn more easily. His mooching off their largesse is fine.

[Hatman 🍁]

I dunno. Cars must be terribly inexpensive in Oklahoma if everyone can afford to have one.  Also, cheap gas, no mandatory insurance and hardly any restrictions on testing. Probably few rules at all.  After all, there's no public transportation right? If any of those things weren't true, there'd be a demand for it. Right?

[WalterMitty]

i dont think bushie believes in things like condoms.  so he want need to budget for those.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.  $40,000 a year is more than what people think it is.  I'm not going to be dirt poor at that wage.  I made it just fine on $25,000 a year, so $40,000 will be quite a bit easier.  I'll be able to live somewhat comfortably, especially for a bachelor in Oklahoma.  I might have a little money to play around with.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I dunno. Cars must be terribly inexpensive in Oklahoma if everyone can afford to have one.  Also, cheap gas, no mandatory insurance and hardly any restrictions on testing. Probably few rules at all.  After all, there's no public transportation right? If any of those things weren't true, there'd be a demand for it. Right?

Liability insurance is mandatory in Oklahoma.  I have full coverage.  There is public transportation in Oklahoma City, but it doesn't extend out this far.  Still, it's just a bus system.  It is so much easier and much more efficient to drive.  Walking takes time.  It takes me 20 minutes to walk a mile.  If I were to walk to a store 2 miles away (which there are none), it would take me 40 minutes to get there, plus 20 minutes or so to shop and then I would have to walk 40 minutes with those heavy bags in my hands.  That is an hour and 40 minutes of time wasted when I could get there and back in 30 minutes.  To me, the time expenditure doesn't make a lick of sense.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.

Good GOD man, you don't support a gf.   

[memphis]

Who cares about the cruise scam.. it sounds like he was offered some open buffet cruise where they could go anytime and anywhere for $800 and took it, and it ended up not being a real thing.

Let's hear more and encourage him to go after Allison. It will give him something to do!

He'll be in even more debt.  I may be critical of him, but at least I offer rational advice.  Pursuing a girlfriend (or anything that will increase his spending) is not what he should be doing right now.

Maybe Bushie is angling to be a house husband (pity he can't cook or clean worth a damn).  All she needs is money and/or a good job. Yes, I know, I know.

Nothing wrong with running a household, provided one does it well. Especially when children are involved, cooking and cleaning and shopping and laundry and fixing things and managing finances and so on is a much harder job than most working people realize. It's shame that Americans generally don't recognize the above chores combined do in fact constitute a job, not so different than managing a small business. I'm not convinced Bushie would actually do that job, either, but I wanted to get that off my chest. A big problem in the US is that we are all trying to do all of those things in addition to our 9-5 and it's all just too much to manage and our quality of life suffers, as does our job performance and home life. And if the woman is better at bringing home the bacon, and the man is better at the domestic side, that's supercool with me too. But, as somebody who has seen too many people try to do everything, I can tell you anecdotally that division of labor, in whatever way works best for an individual household, makes a helluva lot of sense.
Also, I live in the South, and I can tell you that sharing a car can work. It's not always convenient and requires a lot of planning and patience, but it can save a tremendous amount of money, as well as being better for the planet. I know it wouldn't work for everybody, but I wish more people would at least consider it. Unfortunately, people are so caught up in how things are "supposed to" be that they overlook opportunities.

[Lief 🗽]

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.

Good GOD man, you don't support a gf.   

Yeah, he already eats out for all his meals anyway, so I'm not sure what all these additional expenses would even be.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.

Good GOD man, you don't support a gf.   

Yeah, he already eats out for all his meals anyway, so I'm not sure what all these additional expenses would even be.

I have lived off $200 or less per month for food.  Case in point: Utah.  I've done it before and I can do it again.  It's called a grocery store.  Believe it or not, I know how to shop.

[Lief 🗽]

Okay, but what does this have to do with not having enough money to "support" a girlfriend right now?

[memphis]

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.

Good GOD man, you don't support a gf.   

Yeah, he already eats out for all his meals anyway, so I'm not sure what all these additional expenses would even be.

I have lived off $200 or less per month for food.  Case in point: Utah.  I've done it before and I can do it again.  It's called a grocery store.  Believe it or not, I know how to shop.

But you don't know how to cook so you end up eating Hot Pockets and Doritos every day. Sigh...

[opebo]

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.

Good GOD man, you don't support a gf.   

You have to wonder what is in his head when he says things like that.  Perhaps he pays them for sex.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

This is ridiculous. Bushie FINALLY starts talking to another girl after literally a lifetime of being alone and you all are telling him to stop it? Please, this is the best thing for him right now. Having a girlfriend will give him an outlet and something to work hard for.

Whenever I'm dating someone, my grades are immensely better because the girl typically pushes me to do well and if I don't, she nags me to death, and the thought of going through that is enough to push me to work.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.  $40,000 a year is more than what people think it is.  I'm not going to be dirt poor at that wage.  I made it just fine on $25,000 a year, so $40,000 will be quite a bit easier.  I'll be able to live somewhat comfortably, especially for a bachelor in Oklahoma.  I might have a little money to play around with.

You didn't make it fine on $25,000 a year, because you ended up with over $11,000 in credit card debt.  And how much of your life were your parents subsidizing back then?

I dunno. Cars must be terribly inexpensive in Oklahoma if everyone can afford to have one.  Also, cheap gas, no mandatory insurance and hardly any restrictions on testing. Probably few rules at all.  After all, there's no public transportation right? If any of those things weren't true, there'd be a demand for it. Right?

Liability insurance is mandatory in Oklahoma.  I have full coverage.  There is public transportation in Oklahoma City, but it doesn't extend out this far.  Still, it's just a bus system.  It is so much easier and much more efficient to drive.  Walking takes time.  It takes me 20 minutes to walk a mile.  If I were to walk to a store 2 miles away (which there are none), it would take me 40 minutes to get there, plus 20 minutes or so to shop and then I would have to walk 40 minutes with those heavy bags in my hands.  That is an hour and 40 minutes of time wasted when I could get there and back in 30 minutes.  To me, the time expenditure doesn't make a lick of sense.

Says the man who watched over 50 hours of TV in one weekend.........

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.

Good GOD man, you don't support a gf.   

Yeah, he already eats out for all his meals anyway, so I'm not sure what all these additional expenses would even be.

I have lived off $200 or less per month for food.  Case in point: Utah.  I've done it before and I can do it again.  It's called a grocery store.  Believe it or not, I know how to shop.

I would like to see the receipts for that.  $200 a month is $6.66 a day.  Once you subtract the money for pop, you're already below $6.  I don't believe it.  You may think you spent less than $200, but until I at least see a spreadsheet or some record, I call BS.

Okay, but what does this have to do with not having enough money to "support" a girlfriend right now?

Because he has no money.  A girlfriend would mean more driving (unless she always comes to him) and likely more eating out.  Plus he'd have to find things to do on dates unless they're going to watch football all weekend.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Does he really need to support her though? She's a girlfriend, not a wife or anything. Sure, he can pay for a date here and there, but I never paid for EVERYTHING with any girl I have ever dated. She's not my wife. I have no obligation to buy everything for her.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.  $40,000 a year is more than what people think it is.  I'm not going to be dirt poor at that wage.  I made it just fine on $25,000 a year, so $40,000 will be quite a bit easier.  I'll be able to live somewhat comfortably, especially for a bachelor in Oklahoma.  I might have a little money to play around with.

You didn't make it fine on $25,000 a year, because you ended up with over $11,000 in credit card debt.  And how much of your life were your parents subsidizing back then?

I dunno. Cars must be terribly inexpensive in Oklahoma if everyone can afford to have one.  Also, cheap gas, no mandatory insurance and hardly any restrictions on testing. Probably few rules at all.  After all, there's no public transportation right? If any of those things weren't true, there'd be a demand for it. Right?

Liability insurance is mandatory in Oklahoma.  I have full coverage.  There is public transportation in Oklahoma City, but it doesn't extend out this far.  Still, it's just a bus system.  It is so much easier and much more efficient to drive.  Walking takes time.  It takes me 20 minutes to walk a mile.  If I were to walk to a store 2 miles away (which there are none), it would take me 40 minutes to get there, plus 20 minutes or so to shop and then I would have to walk 40 minutes with those heavy bags in my hands.  That is an hour and 40 minutes of time wasted when I could get there and back in 30 minutes.  To me, the time expenditure doesn't make a lick of sense.

Says the man who watched over 50 hours of TV in one weekend.........

Inks, you're right, I have no money to support a girlfriend right now.

Good GOD man, you don't support a gf.   

Yeah, he already eats out for all his meals anyway, so I'm not sure what all these additional expenses would even be.

I have lived off $200 or less per month for food.  Case in point: Utah.  I've done it before and I can do it again.  It's called a grocery store.  Believe it or not, I know how to shop.

I would like to see the receipts for that.  $200 a month is $6.66 a day.  Once you subtract the money for pop, you're already below $6.  I don't believe it.  You may think you spent less than $200, but until I at least see a spreadsheet or some record, I call BS.

Okay, but what does this have to do with not having enough money to "support" a girlfriend right now?

Because he has no money.  A girlfriend would mean more driving (unless she always comes to him) and likely more eating out.  Plus he'd have to find things to do on dates unless they're going to watch football all weekend.

Why do you demand to see nearly every document I possess?  Is there nothing called privacy?  I spill a lot of beans, but I don't disclose everything.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I was talking to one of the counselor's today and she said that since I am projected to be finished with school around April 1 that I should start applying for jobs right after the first of the year, no later than mid-January.  My instructor says that is a good idea, but it depends if I have the portfolio drawings to show by then.  By my own calculations, I should have the portfolio built up enough by mid January, and especially February 1.  So, let's say January 15, that puts me 4 months until application time.  I also have to keep in mind that with a completion of April 1 projected, I just need to gain 7 more days between now and, say, the end of February and I will be finished on Friday, March 7 because of 2 weeks for Spring Break.  I will still project April 1 for now, so if I start applying for jobs, I will start actively looking for jobs throughout the month of December and look at job requirements, salary, and the interview process, that way when January 15 hits or the first day I am ready, I can fill out some applications.

[Hatman 🍁]

I dunno. Cars must be terribly inexpensive in Oklahoma if everyone can afford to have one.  Also, cheap gas, no mandatory insurance and hardly any restrictions on testing. Probably few rules at all.  After all, there's no public transportation right? If any of those things weren't true, there'd be a demand for it. Right?

Liability insurance is mandatory in Oklahoma.  I have full coverage.  There is public transportation in Oklahoma City, but it doesn't extend out this far.  Still, it's just a bus system.  It is so much easier and much more efficient to drive.  Walking takes time.  It takes me 20 minutes to walk a mile.  If I were to walk to a store 2 miles away (which there are none), it would take me 40 minutes to get there, plus 20 minutes or so to shop and then I would have to walk 40 minutes with those heavy bags in my hands.  That is an hour and 40 minutes of time wasted when I could get there and back in 30 minutes.  To me, the time expenditure doesn't make a lick of sense.

How far is the nearest store? I couldn't imagine living far away from any stores. What a horrible thought! I thought America was all about freedom, but living that far away is so restrictive! I would hope that any poors in Oklahoma at least live close to stores.

It takes 30 minutes to shop with driving? That's hilarious. I can pop in to the store and be back in 10 minutes. It would take me longer to drive, if I had a car, as I would have to walk to a parking space, get on to the street and find another parking space instead of shortcuts.

 

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Just to inform the pampered denizens of this forum of the reality of the world, three cars for a household of three people in which only one member is in employment would be excessive even in a very rural area with no public transport (like the upland farming valley that I grew up in). The impression is further reinforced by the statement that one of them was bought new. This is a pattern of consumption driven by lifestyle choices (choices that I'm not judging), not necessity.