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« Reply #675 on: April 04, 2023, 09:33:56 PM »


Good. If they're going to throw a tantrum because their guy didn't win, they're unfit to be a police officer.

They feel that politicians like Dinkins, de Blasio, and now Brandon Johnson don't know what it's like to be a cop and they feel that these politicians support minority lawlessness.

They want mayors and governors who have their backs, like Christie, Pete Wilson, Giuliani, Daley, etc.
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« Reply #676 on: April 04, 2023, 09:34:28 PM »

Not sure if mentioned already but NYT/AP have dropped the check mark here.
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« Reply #677 on: April 04, 2023, 09:37:50 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2023, 09:43:55 PM by Benjamin Frank »

I've noticed the folks arguing with me and have stopped replying to my posts once I started posting stats to back me up...

The stats aren't in dispute, it's the interpretation of those facts that are in dispute.

And, obviously, how 'safe' somebody feels is quite subjective.
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« Reply #678 on: April 04, 2023, 09:39:10 PM »


Good. If they're going to throw a tantrum because their guy didn't win, they're unfit to be a police officer.

They feel that politicians like Dinkins, de Blasio, and now Brandon Johnson don't know what it's like to be a cop and they feel that these politicians support minority lawlessness.

They want mayors and governors who have their backs, like Christie, Pete Wilson, Giuliani, Daley, etc.

If they want the support of the mayor, they have to earn it.
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« Reply #679 on: April 04, 2023, 09:41:35 PM »


Good. If they're going to throw a tantrum because their guy didn't win, they're unfit to be a police officer.

They feel that politicians like Dinkins, de Blasio, and now Brandon Johnson don't know what it's like to be a cop and they feel that these politicians support minority lawlessness.

They want mayors and governors who have their backs, like Christie, Pete Wilson, Giuliani, Daley, etc.

What the police seem to want (in general) are easy to enforce laws like public drug crimes, and not to have to deal with much more complicated things like white collar crime and fraud.

How much of that is due to race is another issue.

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« Reply #680 on: April 04, 2023, 09:44:30 PM »

While the lesser evil probably won out here, I just don't understand why Chuy was unable to gain any momentum.

Chuy didn't really reach out to the people who supported him before. He allowed Brandon Johnson to run and he allowed a whole bunch of organizations and elected officials to endorse Brandon. I attended multiple forums that Chuy was invited to and didn't show up, though all the other candidates calling themselves progressive did.
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« Reply #681 on: April 04, 2023, 09:46:27 PM »

Precincts Reported: 1,281 of 1,291 (99.23%)

BRANDON JOHNSON
285,773

51.42%

PAUL VALLAS
269,951

48.58%

Total Votes
555,724
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« Reply #682 on: April 04, 2023, 09:47:42 PM »

I'd also think that if 'more guns lead to less crime', that there should be zero crime in the United States by now.

Maybe the police unions should stop supporting gun nut candidates. (Not saying that's the case here.)
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« Reply #683 on: April 04, 2023, 09:49:26 PM »


Good. If they're going to throw a tantrum because their guy didn't win, they're unfit to be a police officer.

They feel that politicians like Dinkins, de Blasio, and now Brandon Johnson don't know what it's like to be a cop and they feel that these politicians support minority lawlessness.

They want mayors and governors who have their backs, like Christie, Pete Wilson, Giuliani, Daley, etc.

What the police seem to want (in general) are easy to enforce laws like public drug crimes, and not to have to deal with much more complicated things like white collar crime and fraud.

How much of that is due to race is another issue.



Some of it is racial, yes, because a lot of minorities commit a sizeable amount of crime. Dinkins, Johnson and Adams are black mayors and they are not seen as having the police's back, even if they have made concessions to the police. It's not enough for the Italian/Irish ethnic unions that run these big cities.
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« Reply #684 on: April 04, 2023, 09:50:57 PM »


Good. If they're going to throw a tantrum because their guy didn't win, they're unfit to be a police officer.

They feel that politicians like Dinkins, de Blasio, and now Brandon Johnson don't know what it's like to be a cop and they feel that these politicians support minority lawlessness.

They want mayors and governors who have their backs, like Christie, Pete Wilson, Giuliani, Daley, etc.

What the police seem to want (in general) are easy to enforce laws like public drug crimes, and not to have to deal with much more complicated things like white collar crime and fraud.

How much of that is due to race is another issue.



Some of it is racial, yes, because a lot of minorities commit a sizeable amount of crime. Dinkins, Johnson and Adams are black mayors and they are not seen as having the police's back, even if they have made concessions to the police. It's not enough for the Italian/Irish ethnic unions that run these big cities.


Well, they commit a lot of the crime that they police enforce. That's not the same as to whether they commit a lot of crime (or a disproportionate amount of crime.)
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« Reply #685 on: April 04, 2023, 09:54:29 PM »


Good. If they're going to throw a tantrum because their guy didn't win, they're unfit to be a police officer.

They feel that politicians like Dinkins, de Blasio, and now Brandon Johnson don't know what it's like to be a cop and they feel that these politicians support minority lawlessness.

They want mayors and governors who have their backs, like Christie, Pete Wilson, Giuliani, Daley, etc.

What the police seem to want (in general) are easy to enforce laws like public drug crimes, and not to have to deal with much more complicated things like white collar crime and fraud.

How much of that is due to race is another issue.



Some of it is racial, yes, because a lot of minorities commit a sizeable amount of crime. Dinkins, Johnson and Adams are black mayors and they are not seen as having the police's back, even if they have made concessions to the police. It's not enough for the Italian/Irish ethnic unions that run these big cities.


Well, they commit a lot of the crime that they police enforce. That's not the same as to whether they commit a lot of crime (or a disproportionate amount of crime.)

In the big cities, Blacks and Latinos commit a large percentage of violent crime. That's a fact. Whites commit white collar crime. That is fact. That is why stop and frisk targeted Blacks and Latino men in most big cities because that was where most of the violent crime, especially gun violence came from. Fact. That however, does not warrant stop and frisk as S&F is invasive and causes racial tension, but it is factually true.
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« Reply #686 on: April 04, 2023, 09:55:25 PM »

So much for Paul Vallas
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« Reply #687 on: April 04, 2023, 09:56:20 PM »


Good. If they're going to throw a tantrum because their guy didn't win, they're unfit to be a police officer.

They feel that politicians like Dinkins, de Blasio, and now Brandon Johnson don't know what it's like to be a cop and they feel that these politicians support minority lawlessness.

They want mayors and governors who have their backs, like Christie, Pete Wilson, Giuliani, Daley, etc.

What the police seem to want (in general) are easy to enforce laws like public drug crimes, and not to have to deal with much more complicated things like white collar crime and fraud.

How much of that is due to race is another issue.



Some of it is racial, yes, because a lot of minorities commit a sizeable amount of crime. Dinkins, Johnson and Adams are black mayors and they are not seen as having the police's back, even if they have made concessions to the police. It's not enough for the Italian/Irish ethnic unions that run these big cities.


Well, they commit a lot of the crime that they police enforce. That's not the same as to whether they commit a lot of crime (or a disproportionate amount of crime.)

In the big cities, Blacks and Latinos commit a large percentage of violent crime. That's a fact. Whites commit white collar crime. That is fact. That is why stop and frisk targeted Blacks and Latino men in most big cities because that was where most of the violent crime, especially gun violence came from. Fact. That however, does not warrant stop and frisk as S&F is invasive and causes racial tension, but it is factually true.

This is a very good reason to legalize and regulate all drugs.
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« Reply #688 on: April 04, 2023, 09:57:11 PM »

Well, pro-crime progressives...have fun.
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« Reply #689 on: April 04, 2023, 10:08:34 PM »

BRANDON JOHNSON
286,647
51.42%

PAUL VALLAS
270,775
48.58%

Total Votes
557,422

 
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« Reply #690 on: April 04, 2023, 10:23:36 PM »

Have to like cops who get to say “I thought I saw a gun, I felt in danger and had to kill him” when the military doesn’t even allow that.
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« Reply #691 on: April 04, 2023, 10:26:21 PM »

Can you imagine if the teachers threatened to walk off the job if Vallas won?
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« Reply #692 on: April 04, 2023, 10:28:23 PM »

>moderate democrat, my son
>yuo are men now
>yu must choose candidate for big, blue city mayoral election
>will you pick genuine democrat who is genuinely moderate
>or obvious republican in democrat's clothing

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BRANDON JOHNSON ELECTED MAYOR OF CHICAGO
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« Reply #693 on: April 04, 2023, 10:33:38 PM »

Both are equally toxic, abet for different reasons. I hope Chicago gets someone better in 4 years, and I'd feel that way if Vallas won too.
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« Reply #694 on: April 04, 2023, 10:39:20 PM »

Can you imagine if the teachers threatened to walk off the job if Vallas won?

Teachers don't have to strap up and wear bulletproof vests to patrol inner cities where they don't feel appreciated, teachers yes work in dangerous inner cities but rarely get shot like in suburban schools.

Cops have to face down bullets or take bullets to protect ungrateful minority kids in the eyes of a lot of police union bosses and cops, and they feel that liberal mayors don't have their backs or appreciate what they have to see or witness on a daily basis.

Young Black and Latinos don't want to be cops. It's a social stigma attached to the job. Look at the disrespect the slain Latino cop got in Chicago last month, same thing with the slain Latino NYPD cops last year. Who was a majority of the funeral attendees outside the cathedral at those funerals? White ethnics. Not the Latinos and Blacks that they are patrolling.

Vallas should retire; this is not the end of moderate mayoral city candidates, in 2027, you will see a Latino moderate.

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« Reply #695 on: April 04, 2023, 10:46:01 PM »

Can you imagine if the teachers threatened to walk off the job if Vallas won?

Teachers don't have to strap up and wear bulletproof vests to patrol inner cities where they don't feel appreciated, teachers yes work in dangerous inner cities but rarely get shot like in suburban schools.

Cops have to face down bullets or take bullets to protect ungrateful minority kids in the eyes of a lot of police union bosses and cops, and they feel that liberal mayors don't have their backs or appreciate what they have to see or witness on a daily basis.

Young Black and Latinos don't want to be cops. It's a social stigma attached to the job. Look at the disrespect the slain Latino cop got in Chicago last month, same thing with the slain Latino NYPD cops last year. Who was a majority of the funeral attendees outside the cathedral at those funerals? White ethnics. Not the Latinos and Blacks that they are patrolling.

Vallas should retire; this is not the end of moderate mayoral city candidates, in 2027, you will see a Latino moderate.



You ever type out a response and then go "You know what, maybe I don't want to risk my first ban here"

Totally didn't just happen for me reading this comment
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« Reply #696 on: April 04, 2023, 10:46:03 PM »

Johnson’s victory speech was hopeful and an ode to our city. Part of the reason I voted for him - he represents a more hopeful vision than the one Vallas put forward. And, he looks at the city in a way that is more in line with the people that live here than the people on the outside.

I’m sure he’ll be radically unpopular within a few months, but he’s having his moment.
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« Reply #697 on: April 04, 2023, 10:53:28 PM »

Can you imagine if the teachers threatened to walk off the job if Vallas won?

Teachers don't have to strap up and wear bulletproof vests to patrol inner cities where they don't feel appreciated, teachers yes work in dangerous inner cities but rarely get shot like in suburban schools.

Cops have to face down bullets or take bullets to protect ungrateful minority kids in the eyes of a lot of police union bosses and cops, and they feel that liberal mayors don't have their backs or appreciate what they have to see or witness on a daily basis.

Young Black and Latinos don't want to be cops. It's a social stigma attached to the job. Look at the disrespect the slain Latino cop got in Chicago last month, same thing with the slain Latino NYPD cops last year. Who was a majority of the funeral attendees outside the cathedral at those funerals? White ethnics. Not the Latinos and Blacks that they are patrolling.

Vallas should retire; this is not the end of moderate mayoral city candidates, in 2027, you will see a Latino moderate.



You ever type out a response and then go "You know what, maybe I don't want to risk my first ban here"

Totally didn't just happen for me reading this comment

I lived among white ethnics, I know how they think. This is how they think about policing and race. It's the truth.
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« Reply #698 on: April 04, 2023, 10:56:52 PM »

Brandon Johnson is a moderate, like most people
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« Reply #699 on: April 04, 2023, 11:02:46 PM »

I hope this hasn't been posted yet, but lol

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