2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[It’s so Joever]

Anyways, I am still skeptical about a Biden win in Georgia, but it’s not impossible with what we have left. Still a lot of votes left in Albany and some in the Atlanta suburbs, it’s feasible.

[It’s so Joever]

2022 as the backup option is not very reassuring because Democrats not only need to get lucky and have a net gain of seats but they also need to hold the House, so they can actually pass legislation. Supreme Court vacancies and stuff of course only need the Senate though. Let's first hope they can cobble together a majority in this election.

It's delusional to expect Democrats to gain Senate seats during a midterm. They didn't even manage that in 1998. Sure, Republicans managed in 2002 and 2018, but Democrats haven't since 1962, and before that 1934, both of which were 6 years after a landslide defeat.

I mean, the argument for gains is that the 2016 Senate results were so bad that there is hardly any room for Democrats to fall farther. But yeah I'm not remotely optimistic about that.

I think we would have several issues, the first would be Arizona, if we win the GA seat we have to deal with that, and then Nevada. Luckily, Colorado is not remotely competitive anymore and hopefully we can hold on in NH.

Those are the holds. If we want to try to expand, I think having someone like Lamb run in PA and fighting tooth and nail for NC could work on a good night.

[It’s so Joever]

Kind of beautiful being able to look at blue Wisconsin and Michigan again. The 2016 map is so ugly.

Wisconsin is by no means definitely blue. A win by only 21,000 with many questions around absentee and mail in votes leaves plenty of room during the recount for this to swing back to Trump.

Given the corruption that has occurred down at the Detroit vote counting centre, this race will be going on for a while to come.

You know what’s really unfair?
The establishment GOP is letting the guy who saved them lose due to this corruption. The swamp hasn’t been drained, and both parties have made it worse. I don’t know whether the evil Demonrats or the Deep-State GOP is worse right now.

[It’s so Joever]

Someone suggesting Jared Polis would be a good Vp for Democrats nationally tells you exactly why Democrats are losing so many races.

[It’s so Joever]

It’s over. Trump is probably going to win Georgia.
The numbers just aren’t there for Biden. That being said it will be close.
I just hope Perdue barely drops below 50%, we NEED that runoff.

[It’s so Joever]

I hate to say this but I feel like how close this election ended up being plus how things went downballot probably ensures Biden doesn’t run for re-election if he comes out on top.

That and the fact he'll be 82.

After what happened, does anyone on here think Kamala Harris would win if she ran in 2024 to succeed Biden?

That depends on how things are going in 2024 and who she chooses as her VP will make a huge difference

It would not suprise me at all if her pick is either someone of Cuban ethnicity from Florida or Someone from the Midwest who can balance to ticket like Biden did for Obama in 2008

If Biden ends up being popular Haris will definitely benefit from that but a lot will depend on what she does over the next 4 years.

Don't want to count my chickens but if I'm her, I would pick Gov. Jared Polis of Colorado, who is also a former Congressman. Him and his Husband have children and it's great outreach to the LGBTQ+ community and that actually would help in Florida, plus he's also Jewish which helps in that state.

Sounds great until you get to the part where Florida voted twice to elect a racist ass bigot who crashed the economy and did nothing positive during his four years.

You can have that "doom" mentality but Biden failed going after the Latin vote and Harris wouldn't do that. Plus demographics change and don't underestimate an enthusiasm for a ticket like Harris/Polis, it can be real. I'm just thinking off the top of my head, newly elected Sen. Ben Ray Lujan would be another pick that comes up in my mind. But, I'll save that for a new thread once this is over where we can all be political junkies and predict the 2024 race.

Latinos like Biden more than Harris. Harris turns off Latinos.

Oh yeah, Latinos love Biden.
The 2020 results should make that obvious.

[It’s so Joever]

I'm getting a little annoyed about how much many of my friends are going full-in on rigged election conspiracy theories right now

Do they understand that rhetoric like that just inflamed the slowly opening gap between the two wings of the GOP?

[It’s so Joever]

Trump's going to try and run again in 4 years, isn't he? Ugh

Let him, but I think the GOP could run a couple different people that could do quite well like Doug Ducey & Brian Sandoval.

Hopefully Donald Trump runs a third-party bid. Then the vote would be split and Joe Biden or Kamala Harris could win the fabled 413 Authoritarian NUT map due to vote splitting.

It would not shock me if Donald Trump ran 3rd Party, I could see the Libertarian Party or Constitution Party supporting his bid. Probably the Libertarian Party because they'd finally crack that 5% to get federal funding.

MOST Libertarians are relatively "principled" though, they seem to care less about getting votes and more about sticking to their guns. Gary Johnson was probably about as far as they'd go toward compromising their ideology somewhat for the sake of gaining more votes. I find it really hard to see them nominating Trump. Hell Amash could have been nominated this year.

Constitution Party is another story.

The same Libertarian Party that nominated Bob Barr/Wayne Allyn Root. Trust me, they can go into the LP convention and run gangbusters on them. Constitution Party would probably nominate him too. I can see Trump going nuts and try to take down the GOP, blaming them for his failures.

Yes do it!

[It’s so Joever]

Did the military vote swing D?
The margins in VA Beach, El Paso County, and Bell County are more Dem leaning than 2016.

[It’s so Joever]

Not good at all, and the fact Atlas STILL hasn’t learned to not be an echo chamber is shocking.
After last night, I would expect at least a bit more caution.

[It’s so Joever]

Not good at all, and the fact Atlas STILL hasn’t learned to not be an echo chamber is shocking.
After last night, I would expect at least a bit more caution.

The fact that Michigan was called for Biden I would think you a little more humble and aelf-aware, but apparently not.

The fact that Elliot county went for Trump by a greater margin might teach you a bit, but apparently not.

Don’t forget KY-06!

[It’s so Joever]

Jesus Christ, you are projecting even more than Fox News.

YOU were the one who shut anyone who dared say the race wasn’t Safe D. You raved on and on about how Biden will bounce back in the rurals, and about how Trump got lucky in 2016. Just stop with this revisionism on your end.
Just shut up and accept you were wrong.
Even I have accepted my Michigan prediction was memeable.
Your turn, but you have a lot more states to account for.

[It’s so Joever]

It’s close, but where are you getting 12k from?

[It’s so Joever]

Damn it, Biden has certainly narrowly lost Georgia.

[It’s so Joever]

I think it's pretty clear that Nevada is NOT a Likely D state like Colorado or Virginia but still a battleground for the time being.

It’s the HWC swings.

[It’s so Joever]

10.5K vote dump in PA. Not sure where it was from, but it was Biden 8.6K, Trump 1.8K. Biden 82-18.

Trump's margin narrows from 142K to 135K.

Y is it soooo slow?

Live footage of the Pennsylvania counting:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJutoSCF/

[It’s so Joever]

Looking at the exit polls (yes, i know they tend to be flawed but whatever), 48% of voters said that the fight against COVID is going well, while a similar percentage said the economy was good or excellent.


Shows what a sick society we have and the tight grip the conservative propaganda machine has on people.

No, this shows how terrible the MSM and the people who live in their bubble are.  If it's not salacious innuendo, panic porn or fake scandal they don't care about/report it; it's no surprise many Americans don't listen.  "Real life" wins out over hyper-produced news flashes and concern pundits at the end of the day.   

No it actually shows exactly what he said.  We are in a national pandemic.  Your candidate is traveling around the country spreading the virus with reckless disregard for the most fragile among us.  It's not a fake scandal.  Shame on you.

Del Taco doesn’t feel shame, nor should we.
It’s time to stop with the morals of politics and do what is necessary to achieve our agenda at all costs. The GOP must be matched in their game.

Joe Biden should make March 13th a national holiday to commemorate the Covid victims under the Trump regime. He should taint it as genocide and visit the families of victims and those affected economically. Let’s milk what we can from this stupid country.

[It’s so Joever]

Genuinely concerned this election could be stolen.

Any rational personal would feel the same

My man, you run off of anxiety. Give your brain and body a break.

I love my country and in the prime of my life I’m seeing it come apart

Oh please, its prime was back in the 70s.

Reagan ruined everything.

[It’s so Joever]

Genuinely concerned this election could be stolen.

Any rational personal would feel the same

Nope.  The rational people think we’re overreacting.

Dems are actively trying to steal it from Trump right now in Detroit and Philadelphia. This is 1960 all over again except Trump will fight.

Shut up, America-hater.

[It’s so Joever]

Looking at the exit polls (yes, i know they tend to be flawed but whatever), 48% of voters said that the fight against COVID is going well, while a similar percentage said the economy was good or excellent.


Shows what a sick society we have and the tight grip the conservative propaganda machine has on people.

No, this shows how terrible the MSM and the people who live in their bubble are.  If it's not salacious innuendo, panic porn or fake scandal they don't care about/report it; it's no surprise many Americans don't listen.  "Real life" wins out over hyper-produced news flashes and concern pundits at the end of the day.   

No it actually shows exactly what he said.  We are in a national pandemic.  Your candidate is traveling around the country spreading the virus with reckless disregard for the most fragile among us.  It's not a fake scandal.  Shame on you.

Trump's COVID response definitely hurt him in this election (Trump is 42-57 on COVID).  Despite this, most Americans (outside of ridiculously locked-down places like NYC) have gone back to work/school, attended church/wedding/funerals and gotten way more back to "normal" than reporting by CNN or NYT would suggest.  People aren't doing these things because they live in "rabbit hole conspiracy world," but because normalcy is a choice each individual is actually empowered to make for themselves (and many are preferring to choose it.) 

The fact that Trump overperformed so much relative to expectations is proof that national sentiment is way higher than what the "doomers" in the MSM suggestively hope for (and there's even objective metrics that back up this idea, too.)  However, if you spent 24-hours a day watching CNN/reading election Twitter (like many on Atlas do) you'd think we were living during the fall of Rome, or something lol 

Pffft, no it’s because Trump is a damn effective mobilizer and got a bunch of low propensity voters out to vote who otherwise wouldn’t have. 2016 and 2020 should prove this.
Whether it’s just Trump or any brash populist is still too hard to tell.

[It’s so Joever]

Genuinely concerned this election could be stolen.

Any rational personal would feel the same

Blame FOX and AP for being too trigger happy. Not Atlas posters.

Nope.  The rational people think we’re overreacting.

Dems are actively trying to steal it from Trump right now in Detroit and Philadelphia. This is 1960 all over again except Trump will fight.

I just reported that post for spreading false and misleading information.

Calling AZ with a million votes left but not calling PA, GA or NC is not spreading misinformation?

[It’s so Joever]

Oh if you think Trump is going to leave the picture quietly...you don’t know Donald Trump.

[It’s so Joever]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1324335432126136320?s=19

This is why getting the run-off with Ossoff and Warnock is important. Mitch is going to Mitch. And hopefully a Hail Mary happens and Cunningham squeaks out a stunner.

Not happening. Ossoff couldnt win the main election and trailed Biden badly. If Dems have the White House in January, Republicans will turn out in droves to keep the senate. Turnout for runoffs, even in 2008 when a filibuster proof majority was at stake, has favored Rs

Ok. One, all you Doom sayers or haters have been wrong on a lot of things. Second, elecorates change, new voter registration is until December 7th for Georgia to vote in that election. The narrative is different and Ossoff with Warnock (who is running against an unpopular Senator) could drive turnout. At least having the chance, no where did I say he would win but at least get the chance. But please go doom say somewhere else, you guys are super annoying.

I hope both the democrats lose. I want divided government.

If that happens Biden won't even be able to appoint a cabinet. McConnell has already signaled that he's not going to approve anyone Biden puts forward unless they are conservative.

Compromise or die.

Die it is then.

[It’s so Joever]

Dems are finished. Even if Biden somehow wins he is a 1 termer. Dems will get shalacked in 2022 midterms as well. Trumpism was mostly reinforced.

You should blame the establishment GOP. Mitch McConnell is such a lying snake. He threw Trump under the bus for his own political gain. The Republicans are just the party of Romney now, they are as bad as the corporate Democrats.

Hopefully Trump runs third party and we get real change again!

[It’s so Joever]

Dems are finished. Even if Biden somehow wins he is a 1 termer. Dems will get shalacked in 2022 midterms as well. Trumpism was mostly reinforced.

You should blame the establishment GOP. Mitch McConnell is such a lying snake. He threw Trump under the bus for his own political gain. The Republicans are just the party of Romney now, they are as bad as the corporate Democrats.

Hopefully Trump runs third party and we get real change again!

I see what you did there.

What?
The establishment stole the election from Bernie, and they are doing it now with Trump.
They are United in keeping America down!
We will fight back! Say no to the establishment Republicrats!
Two sides of the same coin.