Palestine college student protest megathread

[jojoju1998]

Are these protests going to die down once summer hits ?

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I don’t care whether you think Israel’s actions in Gaza are justified or not. The actions and conduct of these protesters has been straight up despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself if you’re still supporting them.

They're certainly not doing their cause any favors.

It seems to be a trend in this country where protests don't really evoke sympathy or support in our society, and often fuel the reverse.

See also: the George Floyd protests.

The Floyd protests were extremely successful (even the republican party/the Trump admin had to absorb some of its energy) the backlash appeared much later.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I don’t care whether you think Israel’s actions in Gaza are justified or not. The actions and conduct of these protesters has been straight up despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself if you’re still supporting them.

They're certainly not doing their cause any favors.

It seems to be a trend in this country where protests don't really evoke sympathy or support in our society, and often fuel the reverse.

See also: the George Floyd protests.

The Floyd protests were extremely successful (even the republican party/the Trump admin had to absorb some of its energy) the backlash appeared much later.

It's been irrefutably proven that most of the agitators in the Floyd protests were racist assholes (like the Rittenhouse idiot) who wanted to discredit the Black Lives Matter movement.   

[GeneralMacArthur]

I don’t care whether you think Israel’s actions in Gaza are justified or not. The actions and conduct of these protesters has been straight up despicable and you should be ashamed of yourself if you’re still supporting them.

They're certainly not doing their cause any favors.

It seems to be a trend in this country where protests don't really evoke sympathy or support in our society, and often fuel the reverse.

See also: the George Floyd protests.

The Floyd protests were extremely successful (even the republican party/the Trump admin had to absorb some of its energy) the backlash appeared much later.

It's been irrefutably proven that most of the agitators in the Floyd protests were racist assholes (like the Rittenhouse idiot) who wanted to discredit the Black Lives Matter movement.   

Lol, take it from someone who lived in Seattle during the George Floyd protests and saw most of them firsthand, this definitely isn't true.  It was the same group of assholes who do every protest, feeling empowered by the moment to go even further and be even nastier and more violent.

Thanks for the Greek perspective though

[DaleCooper]

911?
I want to report a murder.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1785839777926807593

Offtopic but damn, JD Vance has absolutely gorgeous eyes.

He kind of looks like a woman disguised as a man.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1785792596159217717

Jerry Seinfeld wife and Bill Ackman are funding the "counterprotests".  Where is the media outcry about this backing, after all the fearmonging about China or Russia funding the protest movement in America?

This woman couldn't even bring herself to fully condemn the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre, let alone 10/7.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

The American people overwhelmingly support the police’s actions, including young people. Almost a majority support banning “pro-Palestinian” protests.
https://twitter.com/jimcmann/status/1786018438151844214?s=46&t=o2RmfeV6yYJk0...

The people who want to ban protests about the conflict on campus, and in particular those who want to ban pro-Palestinian protests but not pro-Israel protests, are traitors to this country and its Constitution.

Clearly what they want is not going to happen, nor should it (unless they sabotage the election), but it's certainly very telling about whether these mobs are winning hearts and minds.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Why Why Why Why Why

WHY

is the left so invested in Palestine? Their values are literally the opposite of progressives value.

Fight against ISRAEL but do not fight FOR Islamic values!

I don’t think someone’s humanity depends on whether they share my values.

[Electric Circus]

I don't even think the backlash was to the Floyd protests themselves so much as it was to their policy consequences.

It turns out that when policymakers discourage policing in black communities (which was an effect of post-Floyd criminal justice programs even when it wasn't intended), a lot more black people are victimized by criminals or maimed in preventable car crashes.

Anyway, there's a lot about these protests that are different from the summer of 2020, but if we look at these events as having something to do with the procession of the seasons, we're just getting started.

The end of the semester probably means that campuses themselves will cool down. But what about all of those students, who now have experience organizing these events, and who may not have many other responsibilities over the summer, who will be going home to their neighborhoods?

[Landslide Lyndon]

You can thank me later.

https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkyb9b/far-right-extremists-are-hoping-to-turn-the-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war

[PragmaticPopulist]

https://twitter.com/3YearLetterman/status/1786094759074775444

[GeneralMacArthur]

You can thank me later.

https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkyb9b/far-right-extremists-are-hoping-to-turn-the-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war

This is isolated examples, not "most of".

[Canis]

https://twitter.com/HuntedHorse/status/1786042797826637964

[Lief 🗽]

Why would the police be expected to clean up after the protestors???

[MyLifeIsYours]

United Nations denounced violent police crackdown on student protestors in the US.

The United Nations has criticized the police crackdown on student protests in the United States.

Marta Hurtado, spokesperson for the U.N. Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, told reporters: “We are troubled by a series of heavy-handed steps taken to disperse and dismantle protests across university campuses in the United States of America.  Freedom of expression and the right to peaceful assembly are fundamental to society, particularly when there is a sharp disagreement on major issues, as there are in relation to the conflict in the Occupied Palestinian Territory and Israel.”

According the latest news reports:

In Richmond, Virginia, police deployed pepper spray on student protesters at Virginia Commonwealth University.  At least 13 arrests were reported.

In Louisiana, a police SWAT team raided an encampment at Tulane University early this morning, arresting at least 14 students.  The raid came hours after the school suspended five students and the school’s chapter of Students for a Democratic Society.

In Missouri, a history professor was hospitalized Saturday after police violently threw him to the pavement.  Steve Tamari, who teaches at Southern Illinois University Edwardsville, was filming a protest at Washington University on his phone when he was attacked.  His wife, Sandra Tamari, who is Palestinian American, was arrested during the same protest.

Meanwhile, at Brown University, student protesters have voluntarily ended their encampment after school officials agreed to hold a vote on divesting from Israel.

[Landslide Lyndon]

You can thank me later.

https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkyb9b/far-right-extremists-are-hoping-to-turn-the-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war

This is isolated examples, not "most of".

Sure they are.

[dead0man]

The children of Gaza are watching you, college students.  They are listening as casualties are still occurring in Gaza.

How are the children of Gaza watching these protests when I was told one of Israel's main genocidal acts was cutting power and internet access for the Gazans?  The same people doing these protests assured me that Israel was going to block everyone in Gaza from the internet so they couldn't broadcast evidence and testimony of Israel's brutal acts of ethnic cleansing.

they got really good printers too, with lots of red ink.

https://twitter.com/3YearLetterman/status/1786094759074775444

I like how it starts with twenty (at least) and ends with two because the rest got winded on the 50 meter jog there.

The Revolution is going to need a lot of naps.

[dead0man]

United Nations denounced violent police crackdown on student protestors in the US.

now that they've used the strongest weapon in their arsenal against us, a strongly worded letter, what else do we have to worry about?

[darklordoftech]

When the Iraq War happened, the war's opponents complained that the media wasn't covering the protests. Now, oppoents of the Israel-Gaza War are complaining that the media is covering the protests too much and the war itself too little.

[Oregon Eagle Politics]

When the Iraq War happened, the war's opponents complained that the media wasn't covering the protests. Now, oppoents of the Israel-Gaza War are complaining that the media is covering the protests too much and the war itself too little.

I don't agree with this. The protests are not cannibalizing coverage from Gaza. Media coverage of the events in Gaza now isn't really lower than 1 month ago.

[Mr. Illini]

The reactions to these protests have been incredibly unhinged.

They have been overwhelmingly peaceful. The biggest examples of violence that I’ve seen (other than police action) have been counterprotestors throwing fireworks at the UCLA encampment.

Locking yourself in a university building is not violence. Pitching a tent on the quad or blocking a street are not violent acts. Civil disobedience = breaking the law in a non-violent way in order to draw attention to a larger issue.

I also haven’t seen any first-hand examples of antisemitism at the demonstrations.

[Frodo]

These two groups in particular are being singled out for legal action:

American Muslims for Palestine
National Students for Justice in Palestine

Survivors of Oct. 7 attack sue pro-Palestinian groups in U.S.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

LOL.

https://twitter.com/aaronsibarium/status/1786116920619511885?t=F1-RXG1u-_jkWOe-f...

[GeneralMacArthur]

The reactions to these protests have been incredibly unhinged.

They have been overwhelmingly peaceful. The biggest examples of violence that I’ve seen (other than police action) have been counterprotestors throwing fireworks at the UCLA encampment.

Locking yourself in a university building is not violence. Pitching a tent on the quad or blocking a street are not violent acts. Civil disobedience = breaking the law in a non-violent way in order to draw attention to a larger issue.

I also haven’t seen any first-hand examples of antisemitism at the demonstrations.

Breaking the law in a non-violent way is not sacred.  You are breaking the law and will be punished accordingly.  I feel like we as a society in general have lost track of the point of non-violent protest and simply decided that anyone protesting is inherently sacred and good as long as it's "peaceful" -- and then stretched to great lengths the definition of "peaceful" and "non-violent".

Compounding matters is the fact that even when the protests do turn violent and hateful and otherwise non-peaceful, there's a common arsenal of defenses that get deployed no matter what:

• Those are just isolated examples and the "vast majority" of protests are "overwhelmingly" peaceful
• It wasn't really violence because I can just change the definition of what counts as violence
• All this violence is just outside agitators conducting false flag attacks to discredit the protests
• Well yeah but whatabout this other example of the other side being violence?  Will you condemn that?  Whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout (this is always the last resort of losers fighting a losing argument)

You are not entitled to choose which laws you will obey simply because you do it in the name of social protest.  That includes not only laws against violence and hate speech (which have been broken by countless anti-Jew protesters around the country) but also laws protecting property rights and the freedom of movement of other people.  Even if you were conducting the world's most peaceful and kindhearted protest, if Columbia University does not want you on its lawn then as a private institution that owns said lawn, it has the right to demand you leave, and if you disobey you are then trespassing and may be removed by whatever force proves necessary to remove you.  This is a basic tenet of human civilization that has held up for tens of thousands of years.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Saying "the vast majority protests are peaceful" is like saying the vast majority of cops don't engage in brutality or abuses, even if true it doesn't mean the cases that aren't aren't a huge problem and aren't grounds for ignoring it.