Israel-Gaza war

[Silent Hunter]

What does the killing of 3 unarmed hostages imply about how the IDF is engaging with civilians in Gaza? It seems pretty unlikely that this is a one-off. Of course, I would fully expect Hamas terrorists to try to wave a white flag and then attack.

That's why they're asking people to come out in their underwear, I imagine.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Nikki Hayley

Let Israel Destroy Hamas

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C08OL4auST5/

[jaichind]

67% of people aged 18-24 in this Harvard-Harris poll view Jews as oppressors.  Note the wording, Jews and not Israel government or Zionists.

[Hnv1]

67% of people aged 18-24 in this Harvard-Harris poll view Jews as oppressors.  Note the wording, Jews and not Israel government or Zionists.

Young people are mostly dumb. More at eleven.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://jewishcurrents.org/yavne-a-jewish-case-for-equality-in-israel-palestine
This 2020 piece by Peter Bainart made for interesting reading, given the current situation.

[Logical]

Harris polls are worse than useless.

[CumbrianLefty]

And the recently much quoted "loads of young people think the Holocaust is a myth!!" claim comes from a *tiny* YouGov subsample, following what many would regard as a rather leading question.

[Silent Hunter]

And the recently much quoted "loads of young people think the Holocaust is a myth!!" claim comes from a *tiny* YouGov subsample, following what many would regard as a rather leading question.

We need more polling then.

[Blue3]

67% of people aged 18-24 in this Harvard-Harris poll view Jews as oppressors.  Note the wording, Jews and not Israel government or Zionists.

I can see why they voted that way, the wording is misleading, they wanted certain results, so they decided to not follow their narrative.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

67% of people aged 18-24 in this Harvard-Harris poll view Jews as oppressors.  Note the wording, Jews and not Israel government or Zionists.

I can see why they voted that way, the wording is misleading, they wanted certain results, so they decided to not follow their narrative.

The poll question is just awful.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

Pope denounces terrorist attacks on Catholics

https://twitter.com/CatholicSat/status/1736360497887187318

[CumbrianLefty]

And the recently much quoted "loads of young people think the Holocaust is a myth!!" claim comes from a *tiny* YouGov subsample, following what many would regard as a rather leading question.

We need more polling then.

I am never going to oppose more *good quality* polling.

[Indy Texas]

Pope denounces terrorist attacks on Catholics

https://twitter.com/CatholicSat/status/1736360497887187318

American Christians may be the only example in the world of a religious group that often verges on actively encouraging the destruction of their coreligionists in another part of the world.

[jojoju1998]

Pope denounces terrorist attacks on Catholics

https://twitter.com/CatholicSat/status/1736360497887187318

American Christians may be the only example in the world of a religious group that often verges on actively encouraging the destruction of their coreligionists in another part of the world.

Evangelicals don't see Catholics as real Christians though......


Palestinian Christians tend to be latin rite catholics, Maronites, or Eastern Orthodox.

[GP270watch]

Israel Found the Hamas Money Machine Years Ago. Nobody Turned It Off.

 Both Israel and The United States knew about Hamas funding sources for years and took no action to shut it down. They on the other hand have been focused on Iran. Hamas funding sources are very varied and not solely Iran based either. Failure to stop Oct 7th was a massive intelligence failure by Israeli authorities and the Netanyahu government. How on Earth does he survive this politically?

[jaichind]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/evergreen-shipping-line-stop-accepting-israeli-cargo-suspend-red-sea-route-2023-12-18/

"Evergreen shipping line to stop accepting Israeli cargo, suspend Red Sea route"

This is one of the largest shipping companies in the world. 

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Failure to stop Oct 7th was a massive intelligence failure by Israeli authorities and the Netanyahu government.

Naw, more like a massive intelligence DGAF.

[PSOL]

Failure to stop Oct 7th was a massive intelligence failure by Israeli authorities and the Netanyahu government.

Naw, more like a massive intelligence DGAF.

Netanyahu clearly did not believe in the Palestinian capability to actually do well in conventional warfare out of sheer racism.

[Open Source Intelligence]

Failure to stop Oct 7th was a massive intelligence failure by Israeli authorities and the Netanyahu government.

Naw, more like a massive intelligence DGAF.

Netanyahu clearly did not believe in the Palestinian capability to actually do well in conventional warfare out of sheer racism.

Conventional warfare this was the Tet Offensive, where after an initial surprise wave attack the North Vietnamese were repelled by the U.S. The failure of Tet was more the U.S. constantly stating the North Vietnamese were on the verge of surrender, so that they even did a military attack that surprised the Americans went against the American narrative of the war. There's elements of that present here.

Talking in purely conventional warfare terms, Israel are now in South Gaza. Hamas as a military force can't fight conventionally pushing and taking control of territory and holding it as the Israelis in Gaza, the Russians in Ukraine, and the Azeris in Artsakh have done the past few years.

[Open Source Intelligence]

IDF missiles have names of what they consider their political enemies across the USA political spectrum.

I laugh at Jake Shields. I one time had a "dream matchup" of the greatest most boring MMA fight ever of Jake Shields vs. Jon Fitch.

[Open Source Intelligence]

Without changes of leadership on both sides, I think this conflict ultimately ends, sadly, with a mass expulsion of Palestinians from both Gaza and the West Bank.

Tbh this learned helplessness is a bit tiresome. The outside world *does* have the power to prevent Israel carrying out such a monstrous and utterly evil act, and should exercise it if necessary.

And yes, that may involve helping to force Netanyahu from power.

So we're for global military deployment in the Middle East and we're for regime change.

I remember a certain conflict, say 15 to 20 years ago. I'm sure everyone is arguing the exact same then as they are now and no one is being a hypocrite.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

Without changes of leadership on both sides, I think this conflict ultimately ends, sadly, with a mass expulsion of Palestinians from both Gaza and the West Bank.

Tbh this learned helplessness is a bit tiresome. The outside world *does* have the power to prevent Israel carrying out such a monstrous and utterly evil act, and should exercise it if necessary.

And yes, that may involve helping to force Netanyahu from power.

So we're for global military deployment in the Middle East and we're for regime change.

I remember a certain conflict, say 15 to 20 years ago. I'm sure everyone is arguing the exact same then as they are now and no one is being a hypocrite.

Except regime change in Iraq required a ground invasion and occupation, whereas "regime change" in Israel would simply require that the US not send them billions of dollars and provide them unlimited logistical support.

Israel would last somewhere between a week and a month without American backing. They'd run out of munitions and their planes would be grounded for lack of spare parts.  Then they'd go bankrupt from the economic pressure, and that's without South Africa style sanctions.

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1735402780536475865

[Open Source Intelligence]

Without changes of leadership on both sides, I think this conflict ultimately ends, sadly, with a mass expulsion of Palestinians from both Gaza and the West Bank.

Tbh this learned helplessness is a bit tiresome. The outside world *does* have the power to prevent Israel carrying out such a monstrous and utterly evil act, and should exercise it if necessary.

And yes, that may involve helping to force Netanyahu from power.

So we're for global military deployment in the Middle East and we're for regime change.

I remember a certain conflict, say 15 to 20 years ago. I'm sure everyone is arguing the exact same then as they are now and no one is being a hypocrite.

Except regime change in Iraq required a ground invasion and occupation, whereas "regime change" in Israel would simply require that the US not send them billions of dollars and provide them unlimited logistical support.

So us overthrowing foreign governments is fine in your eyes, as long as not one soldier's foot hits the ground? Just clarifying for future and past reference. You've also not worked out the logistics of how that's going to occur when supporting Israel with aid enjoys massive majorities in both houses whether you like it or not. Be a realist, this is the world you live in. A clear majority of the two political parties that have power in American government at the very least quietly support what Israel is doing in Gaza. If a person doesn't like that, we have elections next November. Run against Trump, Biden in primaries, vote for an anti-Israeli war third party next November, run against people in Congress whose views you disagree with, donate to those politicians if you're legally allowed to donate.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Jerry Seinfeld visiting the Holy Land to show support for Israel.


Jerry Seinfeld and Jessica Seinfeld attend the 2023 Good+Foundation “A Very Good+ Night of Comedy” Benefit at Carnegie Hall on October 18, 2023 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for Good+Foundation)

"Jewish-American comedian Jerry Seinfeld is doubling down on his support for Israel by traveling to the Holy Land to show solidarity with hostages taken by Hamas."

In other news, Israel have killed a chief financier of Hamas, Subhi Ferwana.


(IDF)

The IDF said "Alongside his brother, he funneled tens of millions through his company 'Hamsat' to fund Hamas' military forces, terrorists' salaries and war activities."

After 3 months of war, the IDF have lost 132 soldiers in their quest to destroy Hamas.

[Conservatopia]

IDF missiles have names of what they consider their political enemies across the USA political spectrum.

I'd love to see all these reprobates killed but come on man, that's so blatantly fake. It's done on MS Paint.