Israel-Gaza war

[Horus]

The Brandenburg Gate in Berlin tonight.

Odd déjà vu... it used to be Blue-Yellow colour scheme back in February of 2022.

Ukraine War apparently is over. Zelensky is the biggest loser of this Israel conflict, not only it’s more recent, it’s a way more geopolitically strategic region for the Americans than Ukraine ever was close to be.

Imagine if China declares war with Taiwan too, clearly both Taiwan AND Israel will suck up most of the air inside the West as they’re considered more “important”.

Well, a third of our population is Evangelical, and they prioritize Israel over America. Are Evangelicals in Brazil just as obsessed?

Not only is this an incredibly dumb thing to say, the Hamas attack actually makes it easier to pass a new round of Ukraine aid, as that money will now most likely be tied to an Israel assistance package. I know this makes the MAGA idiots/Putin apologists mad, but it's the truth. Sucks to be a state sponsor of terrorism right now as we'll be passing money to fight both Russian terrorists in Ukraine as well as Hamas terrorists in Gaza in about a month. Cry about it.

Do you not agree that Evangelicals prioritize Israel over America? They say this all the time, I don't see how that is controversial.

My point is the Israelis don't need a cent. They clearly have this. A cent wasted on Israel could easily go towards Ukraine. They need it. The Israelis don't.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Australian woman, Galit Carbone, murdered by Hamas Islamic terrorists inside Israel.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-11/australian-galit-carbone-killed-in-hamas-israel-attack/102955552


Galit Carbone, 66, was killed in the weekend attack by Hamas.(Supplied)

Foreign Minister Penny Wong said on behalf of the Australian government she wished to express her deepest condolences to the family and loved ones of Ms Carbone.

"The loss of life from these attacks has been devastating and unacceptable. Australia has called for the attacks to stop and for the immediate and unconditional release of all those taken hostage," Senator Wong said.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

https://twitter.com/ettingermentum/status/1711881125419995242?s=20

Insane quote. Article paywalled unfortunately but this is the only substack worth paying for

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkeys-erdogan-says-us-sending-aircraft-carrier-closer-israel-commit-massacre-2023-10-10/

"What will the aircraft carrier of the U.S. do near Israel, why do they come? What will boats around and aircraft on it will do? They will hit Gaza and around, and take steps for serious massacres there,"

- Erdogan
He was having a conference with Chancellor Nehammer of Austria in Ankara.

[Vosem]

LOL

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1711841607379460470?t=0oLV1D79cAuOlrGER1LuXw&...

Interesting job to get canceled from over this.

https://twitter.com/GarrettPetersen/status/1711788778665509059

[Sestak]

Insane quote. Article paywalled unfortunately but this is the only substack worth paying for

OF COURSE snowstalker thinks the moron cityafreaks kid is some visionary genius thought leader. I should have guessed.

[NOVA Green]

https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1711918310952980493?s=46

*Shudders*, sounds like a lot more bad revenge s**t is going to go down immediately.

Saw footage on the news a couple hours ago involving massive Israeli destruction of fishing boats in one of the largest harbors in Gaza.

Sometimes revenge is a dish served cold, and sometimes an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

As I posited early on in the thread, that although Israel  has moral imperative to defend their territories and populations, regardless of religion and ethnicity, that it would likely be inevitable that Israeli Armored Formations would roll into Gaza proper.

It is increasingly becoming patently clear that this is exactly what Israel is intending to do.

As a few other posters noted upthread, this creates major complications from a military perspective, especially when one presumes that Hamas Military Wing launched this assault, with all of the associated atrocities committed against civilian populations, likely attempting to draw Israel into a ground invasion of Gaza, where there are basically only (4) plus holes blown up in "The Wall".

One will likely assume that Hamas has prepared for this moment... the numbers of rockets fired as of today, indicate that their homemade production capacity is prepared for a much more extensive war.

Various posters on this thread compared the Hamas Assault against innocent Israeli citizens to be something akin to the "Tet Offensive".

As we understand more the extent of military casualties looks like maybe 2k insurgents attacked Israel from Gaza, with roughly 1.5k KIA on the combined formations from Gaza (Overwhelmingly Hamas but combined with Islamic Jihad, plus possibly some other Palestinian Political-Military formations representing more minor factions.

Current numbers involving IDF members dead are somewhere around ~ (120). I would assume that some the Israeli Civilians dead include Police Officers, who were some of the first responders since Bibi was so obsessed with Settler politics on the West Bank, and left the Border undefended. (Rant done).

Still it is estimated that Hamas has total of tens of thousands of fighters in Gaza, with various degrees of military capability.

Haven't seen any estimates as to what could in theory be 10% of Hamas total militia members who died during the Attack on Israel when it comes to the % of "commandos" (highly skilled & trained) vs... "rank & file".

I would imagine that Hamas has plenty of skilled commandos in reserve, knowing that Israel will exact vicious revenge for such atrocities which has been committed.

[Saint Milei]

LOL

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1711841607379460470?t=0oLV1D79cAuOlrGER1LuXw&...

Interesting job to get canceled from over this.

https://twitter.com/GarrettPetersen/status/1711788778665509059

Wood

[Middle-aged Europe]

LOL

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1711841607379460470?t=0oLV1D79cAuOlrGER1LuXw&...

Interesting job to get canceled from over this.

https://twitter.com/GarrettPetersen/status/1711788778665509059

Is this supposed to be a reference to the fact that Mia Khalifa once stirred up controversy by doing a threesome in a hijab?

[dead0man]

no, it's a reference to a different porn meme

[dead0man]

how one brave woman and her team sent 25 terrorists straight to hell

Inbar Lieberman, the security coordinator of Kibbutz Nir Am since December 2022, has emerged as a symbol of unwavering courage and determination.

Early on a fateful Saturday, as the terrorists' explosive sounds shattered the peace of Nir Am, Inbar knew that this attack was unlike the typical rocket assaults that had become a grim routine for the region.

The distinctive nature of the threat urged Inbar into swift action.

She dashed to open the armory, equipping her 12-member security team with firearms and coordinating their response to the unfolding attack.

In an incredible act of valor, Inbar positioned her squad strategically across the settlement and devised ambushes that took the gunmen by surprise, turning the tide of the assault.

Over a span of four hours and despite the odds stacked against her, Lieberman killed five terrorists single-handedly, while her compatriots took down an additional 20, as reported by Walla News.

[Aurelius2]

ROFLMAO

https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1712067828076224869

[Meclazine for Israel]

Gaza is rapidly getting pummelled back into the 14th century.

Gaza Drone Footage

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyQVRNAOGbZ/

Power ran out at 2pm this afternoon.

Big Explosions

Israel using White Phosphorous? 15:10:30
Missile Starts Large Fire 16:02:00
More Explosions 16:34:15

Gaza Live Stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcPPJqKsTR8

Cam 2 - Al Dera Hotel Gaza City Centre

I'll give you the tip, the guy on Cam 2 has balls of steel. Ol’ mate has been re-assessing his short term goals in life and questioning his choice of location for a live stream in Gaza City this afternoon.

Cam 3 – A guy called Steve runs this one from Gaza (central?) looking north. Steve also re-assessing his short term goals in life.


A view shows houses and buildings destroyed by Israeli strikes in Gaza City, October 10, 2023 Photo: Reuters

Palestinians have been firing plenty of rockets North.

[Aurelius2]

Only good things could come from this petition catching fire and getting attention: https://www.change.org/p/evacuate-americans-from-israel-now

[Horus]

Sorry to be America-brained about this for a moment, but only good things could come from this petition catching fire and getting attention: https://www.change.org/p/evacuate-americans-from-israel-now

How on earth is that America brained? You are American, of course you'll want to make sure our citizens are evacuated, just as the Swiss or Brazilians or whoever would for their citizens. Nothing wrong with putting emphasis on that. Why apologize?

[Aurelius2]

Sorry to be America-brained about this for a moment, but only good things could come from this petition catching fire and getting attention: https://www.change.org/p/evacuate-americans-from-israel-now

How on earth is that America brained? You are American, of course you'll want to make sure our citizens are evacuated, just as the Swiss or Brazilians or whoever would for their citizens. Nothing wrong with putting emphasis on that. Why apologize?

Yeah, you're right.

[Aurelius2]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1712097242352349578

The US needs to take serious action to get its people out NOW.

[Hnv1]

Wartime coalition government agreed. A special cabinet consisting of Bibi, Gallant, and Gantz as members, and Dermer and Eisenkot as observers will be formed.

[Logical]

Time for some actual content instead of discussing a washed up porn star me thinks. On the events during. the attack and the failures that led to it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-security-failure.html

Shortly before attackers from Gaza poured into Israel at dawn on Saturday, Israeli intelligence detected a surge in activity on some of the Gazan militant networks it monitors. Realizing something unusual was happening, they sent an alert to the Israeli soldiers guarding the Gazan border, according to two senior Israeli security officials.

But the warning wasn’t acted upon, either because the soldiers didn’t get it or the soldiers didn’t read it.

Shortly afterward, Hamas, the group that controls Gaza, sent drones to disable some of the Israeli military’s cellular communications stations and surveillance towers along the border, preventing the duty officers from monitoring the area remotely with video cameras. The drones also destroyed remote-controlled machine guns that Israel had installed on its border fortifications, removing a key means of combating a ground attack.

That made it easier for Hamas assailants to approach and blow up parts of the border fence and bulldoze it in several places with surprising ease, allowing thousands of Palestinians to walk through the gaps.

The four officials said the success of the attack, based on their early assessment, was rooted in a slew of security failures by Israel’s intelligence community and military, including:

-Failure by intelligence officers to monitor key communication channels used by Palestinian attackers;

-Overreliance on border surveillance equipment that was easily shut down by attackers, allowing them to raid military bases and slay soldiers in their beds;

-Clustering of commanders in a single border base that was overrun in the opening phase of the incursion, preventing communication with the rest of the armed forces;

-And a willingness to accept at face value assertions by Gazan military leaders, made on private channels that the Palestinians knew were being monitored by Israel, that they were not preparing for battle.

“We spend billions and billions on gathering intelligence on Hamas,” said Yoel Guzansky, a former senior official at Israel’s National Security Council. “Then, in a second,” he added, “everything collapsed like dominoes.”

The next failure was operational.

Two of the officials said that the Israeli border surveillance system was almost entirely reliant on cameras, sensors and machine guns that are operated remotely.

Israeli commanders had grown overly confident in the system’s impregnability. They thought that the combination of remote surveillance and arms, barriers above ground and a subterranean wall to block Hamas from digging tunnels into Israel made mass infiltration unlikely, reducing the need for significant numbers of soldiers to be physically stationed along the border line itself.

With the system in place, the military started reducing the number of troops there, moving them to other areas of concern, including the West Bank, according to Israel Ziv, a retired major general who commanded ground forces in the south for many years, served as the head of the Israel Defense Forces’ Operations Division from 2003 to 2005 and was recently recruited into the reserves again because of the war.

“The thinning of the forces seemed reasonable because of the construction of the fence and the aura they created around it, as if it were invincible, that nothing would be able to pass it,” he said.But the remote-control system had a vulnerability: It could also be destroyed remotely.

Hamas took advantage of that weakness by sending aerial drones to attack the cellular towers that transmitted signals to and from the surveillance system, according to the officials and also drone footage circulated by Hamas on Saturday and analyzed by The New York Times.

Without cellular signals, the system was useless. Soldiers stationed in control rooms behind the front lines did not receive alarms that the fence separating Gaza and Israel had been breached, and could not watch video showing them where the Hamas attackers were bulldozing the barricades. In addition, the barrier turned out to be easier to break through than Israeli officials had expected.

That allowed more than 1,500 Gazan fighters to surge through nearly 30 points along the border, some of them in hang-gliders that flew over the top of the barricades, and reach at least four Israeli military bases without being intercepted.

Photos shared by one of the Israeli officials showed that scores of Israeli soldiers were then shot as they slept in their dorms. Some were still wearing their underclothes.

The second operational failure was the clustering of leaders from the army’s Gaza division in a single location along the border. Once the base was overrun, most of the senior officers were killed, injured or taken hostage, according to two of the Israeli officials.

That situation, combined with the communication problems caused by the drone strikes, prevented a coordinated response. This kept anyone along the border from grasping the full breadth of the assault, including the commanders who rushed from elsewhere in Israel to launch a counterattack.

“Understanding what the picture was of the different terrorist attacks was very difficult,” said Brig. Gen. Dan Goldfuss, an Israeli commander who helped lead the counterattack.

At one point on the ground, the general encountered — by chance — a commander from another brigade. There and then, the two men decided on an ad hoc basis which villages their respective units would try to retake.

“We decided just between ourselves,” the general said. “And that’s how we went by, from one village to another.”

All of this meant it was hard, especially in the early stages, to communicate the gravity of the situation to the military high command in Tel Aviv.

As a result, no one there sensed the immediate need for a massive, rapid air cover, even as social media emerged with reports of attacks in many communities. It took hours for the air force to arrive over much of the area, even though it has bases just minutes away in flying time, according to two of the Israeli officials and survivors of the attacks.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/testimonies-from-beeri-massacre-expose-deep-trauma-predating-israels-creation/

Fux said about 90 terrorists entered Be’eri at about 7 a.m. on Saturday. Two hours later, the Shaldag detachment of about 20 troops landed, but “within a short time, the force was eroded,” using a military euphemism. “From then on, we only heard Arabic. The terrorists went from door to door, abducted people or killed them. Sometimes they only killed. Sometimes they took the kids and killed the parents, sometimes the other way around.”

Amit Man repeatedly asked her sister where the army was, and whether it’s coming to liberate Be’eri. According to some accounts, the Israeli Air Force helicoptered into Be’eri two platoons of its special forces Shaldag unit, but apparently they were overwhelmed by the terrorists. In videos of Be’eri circulating in pro-Palestinian social media channels, bodies of men in battle vests are seen lying around the iconic yellow gate of the kibbutz.

What I got from these accounts was that there was no contingency plan if the terrorists breached the border wall. The IDF thought that with their shiny new technologies they can guard the border with minimum force, but the historically inclined knows that any defence can be breached and no technology is without weakness. This attack and the Ukraine war is a warning to militaries that technology can not replace manpower, it can complement boots on the ground, but it can not replace it. Another black mark total breakdown of communications in the IDF. It sounds like the High Command did not truly grasp the scale of the attack until much later. Sending a small group of elite commandos to be slaughtered without air support shows that no one actually knew what was going on.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Wartime coalition government agreed. A special cabinet consisting of Bibi, Gallant, and Gantz as members, and Dermer and Eisenkot as observers will be formed.

What's been the response of the Arab parties?

[Meclazine for Israel]

The Goat of Gaza - Dr. Rami Awwad
https://www.instagram.com/dr.rami_awwad/

[Aurelius2]

IDF neutralizes a squad of at least 8 Hamas terrorists that infiltrated Zikim settlement south of Ashkelon.

[Sir Mohamed]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1712097242352349578

The US needs to take serious action to get its people out NOW.

Shouldn't the Iron Dome be able to take all of them down?

[Aurelius2]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1712097242352349578
The US needs to take serious action to get its people out NOW.

Shouldn't the Iron Dome be able to take all of them down?

Hamas now tries to fire as many rockets as possible within short bursts of time to overwhelm the Iron Dome so that some get through. Iron Dome prioritizes built-up areas and often lets rockets aimed at uninhabited areas fall to the ground during these fusillades. I imagine that the airport is very highly prioritized since everything will go to crap quickly if it gets hit, and the IDF is relying on it to fly in reservists from abroad.

I've just been particularly fixated on it for personal reasons, and will continue to do so until B"H my grandmother arrives home safely in a few days. My greatest fear is Hamas or Hezbollah blows up the runway and strands everyone. There are other smaller airports in Israel, but it would be total chaos. I finally watched Top Gun: Maverick recently and perhaps the strafing of the Russiranorthkorean air base in that film is still too fresh in my mind.

[Ferguson97]

CNN reporting that US intel doubts Iranian involvement