House GOP in disarray.

[Roronoa D. Law]

This is another reason why we should move to a UK style system of choosing nominees .

If that was our system then all of these members who acted out this way , would immediately see their political careers come to an end .

Removing power out of the voters hand is horrible move. The thing that needs to change is outlets like Fox News, Newsnation, the Jack Poso, and Draino's of the world. A lot these people do not care about legislative agenda of the party or its electoral chances. All they care about is their bottom line and their own ego. The reason why your party voters are electing crazy people is because you feeding them crazy information.

[politicallefty]

Pelosi and Peltola missed the vote?

Pelosi flew back to SF with Feinstein's casket. Peltola just recently lost her husband in a plane crash.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1709304716339859555

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

Just 40% of Americans want to make DC a state: it's hardly edgy to be opposed.

Demanding to make the federal capital a state is the business of all Americans.

That's incredibly high for state and is actually the highest out of all 15 states. It really is better to say you don't want DC to be a state because it was send to Democrats to the Senate instead of making up other weak excuses.

But MS's homicide rate doesn't threaten federal officials, and isn't boosted by insane soft on crime policies!

There is no logic that can deny any entity due representation in a democratic republic. By that logic nowhere should have representation. Federal officials aren't 100% safe anywhere and the most at risk they were is on January 6th, 2021.

One standard for blue avatars, another for red avatars

[Gass3268]

Pelosi and Peltola missed the vote?

Pelsoi is in California as she and her staff are assisting in Feinstein's funeral. Peltola is still in Alaska after the death of her husband.

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1709304716339859555

Finally some furry representation

[President Johnson]

A random observation: If when McCarthy is ousted, there will yet again be now Republican in the presidential line of succession. As long as the speaker is vacant, Senate president pro tem Patty Murray would be next in line after Kamala.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

Just 40% of Americans want to make DC a state: it's hardly edgy to be opposed.

Demanding to make the federal capital a state is the business of all Americans.

That's incredibly high for state and is actually the highest out of all 15 states. It really is better to say you don't want DC to be a state because it was send to Democrats to the Senate instead of making up other weak excuses.

But MS's homicide rate doesn't threaten federal officials, and isn't boosted by insane soft on crime policies!

There is no logic that can deny any entity due representation in a democratic republic. By that logic nowhere should have representation. Federal officials aren't 100% safe anywhere and the most at risk they were is on January 6th, 2021.

One standard for blue avatars, another for red avatars

Whether you're red, blue, green, or polka-dot, ALL of you should take the discussion elsewhere and stop cluttering this thread with it!

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Guys, can we please take the giant quote blocks elsewhere? You're distracting from my unfunny one-liners and gifs!

[soundchaser]

Spartz, as she said she would, votes Nay.

[beaver2.0]

Spartz against.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

Just 40% of Americans want to make DC a state: it's hardly edgy to be opposed.

Demanding to make the federal capital a state is the business of all Americans.

That's incredibly high for state and is actually the highest out of all 15 states. It really is better to say you don't want DC to be a state because it was send to Democrats to the Senate instead of making up other weak excuses.

But MS's homicide rate doesn't threaten federal officials, and isn't boosted by insane soft on crime policies!

There is no logic that can deny any entity due representation in a democratic republic. By that logic nowhere should have representation. Federal officials aren't 100% safe anywhere and the most at risk they were is on January 6th, 2021.

One standard for blue avatars, another for red avatars

If you're going to insist on derailing the thread, at least have the common decency to speak comprehensibly.

[oldtimer]

Mace is a yes. This looks to be a done deal.

That's a huge surprise. But yeah, Kevin is chucked. Good night, sweet prince.

She was on the list of the 11:

Eli Crane
Ken Buck
Victoria Spartz
Andy Biggs
Matt Rosendale
Matt Gaetz
Bob Good
Nancy Mace
Tim Burchett
Cory Mills
Warren Davidson

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Spartz, as she said she would, votes Nay.

And IIRC, she basically (and literally) stood in the shadows towards the back of the aisles during the Speaker vote, only emerging to vote. 

[GeorgiaModerate]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

That’s cute, now do income and life expectancy!

And when DC was created it was an uninhabited swamp, now it has more people than some other us states. Back in the 19th century we also didn’t have most of our states today, but then they grew enough to be viable states. Give us our rights or stay the f**k outta the city.

I don’t give a s**t what Oklahomans have to say, they don’t live here but we do. Our human rights are not a negotiable.

Those are irrelevant for the point being made, which is that DC's high crime rates (created by intentionally soft on crime policies) endanger the federal government's officeholders and offices, as well as citizens from the states visiting DC.

If having bad stats made being a state not allowed, half the rural s**tholes this country would be stripped of their rights quicker than you can say “Thank gosh for Mississippi!”

It is a tragedy that DC has so many people living there. The proper solution is to eliminate huge portions of the federal government, not to make DC a state.

No the tragedy is that so many people like you are living in America. The proper solution is to stop subsidizing rural parts of America completely.

I will not stay out of the capital of my country.

Yes you will.

All Americans have the right to life, liberty, and property: but it has long been well-recognized that territories not admitted as states to the union do not have a right to admit themselves as states to the union anymore than Mexico or Guatemala do. If DC does not like the present arrangement, I believe it has the right to secede, or should: if not, I do not believe under any circumstances it should be made a state.

Precedent does not equal correct. Large populations that are taxed as Americans get representation as Americans if they do want. Remember how the guys you j**k off to once said “No Taxation Without Representation?” Well we mean it.

GeorgiaModerate, where is the equality of moderation standards that we are so often told exists? Apply your standards consistently!

I want ALL of you to take this discussion elsewhere.  I have no mod privs on this board.  If I did, this entire discussion would already have been deleted in the thread.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

Just 40% of Americans want to make DC a state: it's hardly edgy to be opposed.

Demanding to make the federal capital a state is the business of all Americans.

That's incredibly high for state and is actually the highest out of all 15 states. It really is better to say you don't want DC to be a state because it was send to Democrats to the Senate instead of making up other weak excuses.

But MS's homicide rate doesn't threaten federal officials, and isn't boosted by insane soft on crime policies!

There is no logic that can deny any entity due representation in a democratic republic. By that logic nowhere should have representation. Federal officials aren't 100% safe anywhere and the most at risk they were is on January 6th, 2021.

One standard for blue avatars, another for red avatars

If you're going to insist on derailing the thread, at least have the common decency to speak comprehensibly.

Very simply: you have multiple red avatars writing screeds in response to my point that the proposal being made couldn't (and shouldn't pass), that unlike my comment have nothing to do with the thread, and yet the blame goes solely to the blue avatar and not the red avatars talking about masturbation. I am glad to stop this discussion: I was only responding to another poster in the first place. But red avatars act like children and get away with it.

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

what did Van Drew just say?

[It’s so Joever]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

That’s cute, now do income and life expectancy!

And when DC was created it was an uninhabited swamp, now it has more people than some other us states. Back in the 19th century we also didn’t have most of our states today, but then they grew enough to be viable states. Give us our rights or stay the f**k outta the city.

I don’t give a s**t what Oklahomans have to say, they don’t live here but we do. Our human rights are not a negotiable.

Those are irrelevant for the point being made, which is that DC's high crime rates (created by intentionally soft on crime policies) endanger the federal government's officeholders and offices, as well as citizens from the states visiting DC.

If having bad stats made being a state not allowed, half the rural s**tholes this country would be stripped of their rights quicker than you can say “Thank gosh for Mississippi!”

It is a tragedy that DC has so many people living there. The proper solution is to eliminate huge portions of the federal government, not to make DC a state.

No the tragedy is that so many people like you are living in America. The proper solution is to stop subsidizing rural parts of America completely.

I will not stay out of the capital of my country.

Yes you will.

All Americans have the right to life, liberty, and property: but it has long been well-recognized that territories not admitted as states to the union do not have a right to admit themselves as states to the union anymore than Mexico or Guatemala do. If DC does not like the present arrangement, I believe it has the right to secede, or should: if not, I do not believe under any circumstances it should be made a state.

Precedent does not equal correct. Large populations that are taxed as Americans get representation as Americans if they do want. Remember how the guys you j**k off to once said “No Taxation Without Representation?” Well we mean it.

GeorgiaModerate, where is the equality of moderation standards that we are so often told exists? Apply your standards consistently!

I just deleted it myself after seeing the request by GeorgiaMod, because I’m not a literal baby who cries when rules exist. Now let’s stop.

[Rand]

Who else is taking a shot of Everclear for each Yay?

[emailking]

what did Van Drew just say?

Something about pulling the fire alarm I think.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

what did Van Drew just say?

Whatever he said seemed to get a rise. 

[Zenobiyl]

what did Van Drew just say?

"Nobody pull the fire alarm!"

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Hey, Haley/Ryan

Take your sh!t with Forumlurker to another thread, this is the McCarthy clowntrain thread buddy, not the "DC doesn't deserve rights" thread

[Libertas Vel Mors]

2 votes from 218

[Storr]

Who else is taking a shot of Everclear for each Yay?

Newt Gingrich, probably. He's thinking "avoiding this is exactly why I quit".