House GOP in disarray.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

The responsibility is on McCarthy for making a deal with Gaetz and the Qanon caucus to begin the legislative term.

Not completely his fault although I agree to an extent. No one anticipated these people to go insane and try to destroy the government. I supported them in January but this is unacceptable.

If you didn't expect this to happen after what happened in January then you really don't know how to read a room.

Pelosi was able to calm down the squad in Jan 2018 and they never tried to snatch power from her.

I'm no fan of the squad, but they look like saints compared to the FC. Again, these guys have no interest in governing. They want headlines and clicks for donations.

[politicallefty]

Mace is Yea!

[soundchaser]

Mace is a yes. This looks to be a done deal.

[It’s so Joever]

Mace is Yea!

Huh??

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/jpitney/status/1709257357623259224

[Roronoa D. Law]

Republican really need get grip on these grifters in elected office, social media, and elsewhere. This is so embarassing.

[Torrain]

With Mace onboard...

[DrScholl]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

Just 40% of Americans want to make DC a state: it's hardly edgy to be opposed.

Demanding to make the federal capital a state is the business of all Americans.

That's incredibly high for state and is actually the highest out of all 15 states. It really is better to say you don't want DC to be a state because it was send to Democrats to the Senate instead of making up other weak excuses.

[kyc0705]

Mace's position on most issues at this point is "We do a little trolling" but in a way I kinda respect.

[OSR stands with Israel]

This is another reason why we should move to a UK style system of choosing nominees .

If that was our system then all of these members who acted out this way , would immediately see their political careers come to an end .

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

That’s cute, now do income and life expectancy!

And when DC was created it was an uninhabited swamp, now it has more people than some other us states. Back in the 19th century we also didn’t have most of our states today, but then they grew enough to be viable states. Give us our rights or stay the f**k outta the city.

I don’t give a s**t what Oklahomans have to say, they don’t live here but we do. Our human rights are not a negotiable.

Those are irrelevant for the point being made, which is that DC's high crime rates (created by intentionally soft on crime policies) endanger the federal government's officeholders and offices, as well as citizens from the states visiting DC.

It is a tragedy that DC has so many people living there. The proper solution is to eliminate huge portions of the federal government, not to make DC a state.

I will not stay out of the capital of my country.

All Americans have the right to life, liberty, and property: but it has long been well-recognized that territories not admitted as states to the union do not have a right to admit themselves as states to the union anymore than Mexico or Guatemala do. If DC does not like the present arrangement, I believe it has the right to secede, or should: if not, I do not believe under any circumstances it should be made a state.

[oldtimer]

Partisanship aside...McCarthy really isn't a great speaker anyway.   Not even a fraction as effective as Pelosi but that goes without saying.   Even compared to John Boehner and Paul Ryan he's very subpar.

All he really knows how to manage his caucus is cave to demands by making up promises to be fulfilled down the road, and eventually all the promises seem to add up and become worthless.   That's how he got elected in January and that's how he got here.

Boehner had a giant majority and ended up voting alone with Democrats against everyone in his own party.

That was a greater humiliation.

McCarthy hasn't been ostracised by his party.

[MR DARK BRANDON]

Why would Joe Biden do this?

/S

Funny thing is I know someone who would unironically say something like this

[President Johnson]

Mace is a yes. This looks to be a done deal.

That's a huge surprise. But yeah, Kevin is chucked. Good night, sweet prince.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

Just 40% of Americans want to make DC a state: it's hardly edgy to be opposed.

Demanding to make the federal capital a state is the business of all Americans.

That's incredibly high for state and is actually the highest out of all 15 states. It really is better to say you don't want DC to be a state because it was send to Democrats to the Senate instead of making up other weak excuses.

But MS's homicide rate doesn't threaten federal officials, and isn't boosted by insane soft on crime policies!

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Nancy Mace is the Ro Khanna of the Republicans.

[Torrain]

https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1709275250762932658

[President Johnson]

Pelosi and Peltola missed the vote?

[GeorgiaModerate]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

Just 40% of Americans want to make DC a state: it's hardly edgy to be opposed.

Demanding to make the federal capital a state is the business of all Americans.

That's incredibly high for state and is actually the highest out of all 15 states. It really is better to say you don't want DC to be a state because it was send to Democrats to the Senate instead of making up other weak excuses.

But MS's homicide rate doesn't threaten federal officials, and isn't boosted by insane soft on crime policies!

Please don't derail this thread.

[Oryxslayer]

Rosendale predictibly Yes.

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1709275250762932658

So McCarthy is the first one to get fired liked this? This quickly? Way to raise the bar!

[Nyvin]

Rosendale voted yes (MT-2)

[DrScholl]

Every Democrat who votes yes is just as responsible for Gaetz reign of terror as the freedom caucus

Lol, why on earth would they be responsible?

Dems have no reason to save McCarthy and help the GOP avoid this embarassment. McCarthy bent over backwards to appease Gaetz by running with the false impeachment inquiry, but it did nothing to save his job.

Honestly I think Jeffries should've perhaps offered to have the Democrats vote Present as long as McCarthy met some demands (like dropping impeachment completely and additional Ukraine aid for a certain period), but they're under no obligation to bail him out if he doesn't give them anything in return.

All of this plus DC statehood and AOC's PR status bill would have been the level of commitment needed for Dems to even consider this. A high price, but doable if McCarthy wants it bad enough.

DC Statehood couldn't pass the Senate even if the House passed it. Never going to happen. Deranged idea made particularly more deranged by the current state of DC governance (BLM riots 2020, crime 2023). Cuellar got carjacked yesterday!

With that logic Mississippi shouldn’t exist.
Anyways you don’t speak for the people of DC, stay the f**k outta our business and give us our American rights you edgelord.

MS homicide rate: 20.5
DC homicide rate: 32.78

Also, the federal capital is located in DC and not in Mississippi for a reason. DC was created as a independent seat of power for the federal capital, and making it a state as a sop to partisans and swamp creatures would defeat that whole purpose.

Just 40% of Americans want to make DC a state: it's hardly edgy to be opposed.

Demanding to make the federal capital a state is the business of all Americans.

That's incredibly high for state and is actually the highest out of all 15 states. It really is better to say you don't want DC to be a state because it was send to Democrats to the Senate instead of making up other weak excuses.

But MS's homicide rate doesn't threaten federal officials, and isn't boosted by insane soft on crime policies!

There is no logic that can deny any entity due representation in a democratic republic. By that logic nowhere should have representation. Federal officials aren't 100% safe anywhere and the most at risk they were is on January 6th, 2021.

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

Pelosi and Peltola missed the vote?

Pelosi is in SF for Feinstein's funeral, flying back atm. Peltola is still in mourning from her husband's death.

[Oryxslayer]

Pelosi and Peltola missed the vote?

Yes, discussed and expected earlier. Pelosi is either in SF for the Feinstein funeral or flying back to try and make the vote, Peltola is in Alaska mourning.