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« Reply #125 on: October 14, 2023, 01:47:21 AM »

Clear mood for change winning, though Labour might save a few seats on the final results. Will be interesting to see who is going down, looks like they are doing especially badly in Auckland.
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« Reply #126 on: October 14, 2023, 01:47:35 AM »

Wouldn't be willing to call an outright majority for National + ACT just yet, but Luxon looks to be leading the next government.


Some interesting stuff going on in the electorates - current results have the number of electorate MPs from parties other than National and Labour jumping from four to ten.
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« Reply #127 on: October 14, 2023, 01:50:20 AM »

Some interesting results have been mentioned on the TV coverage, including that Labour currently trails in Mt. Albert (Ardern's old seat)
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« Reply #128 on: October 14, 2023, 01:57:52 AM »

Some interesting results have been mentioned on the TV coverage, including that Labour currently trails in Mt. Albert (Ardern's old seat)

Not only was it Ardern's seat for her entire time as PM, it was also Helen Clark's for her entire term as PM. Has never voted any party other than Labour since its establishment in 1946.
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« Reply #129 on: October 14, 2023, 01:58:50 AM »

Some interesting results have been mentioned on the TV coverage, including that Labour currently trails in Mt. Albert (Ardern's old seat)

Well not entirely unexpected given how unpopular Ardent was.
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« Reply #130 on: October 14, 2023, 02:03:01 AM »

Since the start of the modern party system in the 40s:
5/5 National governments have won a 3rd term
2/6 Labour governments have won a 3rd term
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« Reply #131 on: October 14, 2023, 02:11:16 AM »

Seems like the National Party is doing really well. At their current numbers they can form a National-ACT government outright without even needing to include NZF
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« Reply #132 on: October 14, 2023, 02:34:11 AM »

If anything National has trickled upwards a bit in the last few percent of the vote.

Not counting the likes of NZ First and Social Credit as part of the right, then this is the highest vote for the right since 1951 by my calculations.
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« Reply #133 on: October 14, 2023, 02:35:35 AM »

Dang, TPM is now leading in 6 of the 7 Māori electorates
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« Reply #134 on: October 14, 2023, 02:38:48 AM »

ACT is probably winning a second electorate seat in Tamaki.
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« Reply #135 on: October 14, 2023, 02:40:55 AM »

ACT is probably winning a second electorate seat in Tamaki.

Incumbent there, Simon O'Connor (Nat), is a hard-right wing socon type. He's 54th on the Nationals' list so he is probably out of parliament.
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« Reply #136 on: October 14, 2023, 02:59:29 AM »

One example of just how grim it is for Labour is that Michael Wood is on track to lose Mt Roskill, which has always been a safe Labour seat. Wood was even a potential leadership contender at the beginning of the year but this tops off a horrible year for him when he was forced out of Cabinet and into an unwinnable list position due to conflict of interest scandals.
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« Reply #137 on: October 14, 2023, 03:00:08 AM »

If TPM keeps their 5 seats (they could win 6), there would 2 overhang seats (+1 Port Waikato). This is important for government formation because the special votes is expected to shift a couple seats to the left which could mean NAT + ACT is not enough for a majority.
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« Reply #138 on: October 14, 2023, 03:20:30 AM »

One of the few bright spots is that Labour backbencher Greg O'Connor is beating National's deputy Nicola Willis in Ohariu, even while National is winning the party vote there. Maybe the public servants didn't want to lose their jobs.
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« Reply #139 on: October 14, 2023, 04:34:28 AM »

Nats going under 40% with late results coming from mostly Labour strongholds.
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« Reply #140 on: October 14, 2023, 04:40:40 AM »

76.3% of the results counted:
National 40.0% - 51 seats (44 electorates)
Labour 26.4% - 33 seats (18 electorates)
Green 10.5% - 13 seats (3 electorates)
ACT 9.2% - 12 seats (2 electorates)
NZ First 6.4% - 8 seats
Te Pāti Māori 2.5% - 4 seats (4 electorates)
TOP 2.0%
NZ Loyal 1.1%

Latest updates: Labour recovers Mt Albert, very tight race as well in Te Tai Tokerau (Kelvin Davis' seat)
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« Reply #141 on: October 14, 2023, 04:51:00 AM »

Some interesting results have been mentioned on the TV coverage, including that Labour currently trails in Mt. Albert (Ardern's old seat)

Well not entirely unexpected given how unpopular Ardent was.

Given that she is no longer the candidate there, eh??

This maybe says more about your personal animus against her than anything else.
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« Reply #142 on: October 14, 2023, 05:01:23 AM »

Most lighthearted moment of the night (particularly from a left POV) - Hipkins namedropped a hitherto unknown partner called "Tony" in his concession speech. Once the camera cutback to the studio, the presenters were scrambling to find out who this "Tony" is, what gender this person is etc.
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« Reply #143 on: October 14, 2023, 05:13:52 AM »

so uh, any reason why the crazy conspiracy theory party is getting over 1%?
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« Reply #144 on: October 14, 2023, 05:20:59 AM »

Most lighthearted moment of the night (particularly from a left POV) - Hipkins namedropped a hitherto unknown partner called "Tony" in his concession speech. Once the camera cutback to the studio, the presenters were scrambling to find out who this "Tony" is, what gender this person is etc.

Have they found anything yet?
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« Reply #145 on: October 14, 2023, 05:21:12 AM »


r/NewZealand in shambles
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« Reply #146 on: October 14, 2023, 05:37:26 AM »

Some interesting results have been mentioned on the TV coverage, including that Labour currently trails in Mt. Albert (Ardern's old seat)

Well not entirely unexpected given how unpopular Ardent was.

Given that she is no longer the candidate there, eh??

This maybe says more about your personal animus against her than anything else.
She's clearly a major reason Labour lost, and she only quit while the polls were bad so she doesn't have to take blame for her failures and she can stay a media darling.
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« Reply #147 on: October 14, 2023, 05:37:48 AM »
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ACT just dropped a seat to the Greens. ACT and National are now at 61 combined. The big winner of that could be Winston Peters. :/

This is also before the special votes are counted, which apparently usually causes National to lose a couple seats. The commentators said this time could be different due to the Covid restrictions that prevented people from being able to get into New Zealand though.

If there is going to be a National/ACT government, I think it would be better without New Zealand First/Winston Peters. That guy is a whack job.
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« Reply #148 on: October 14, 2023, 05:41:45 AM »

Most lighthearted moment of the night (particularly from a left POV) - Hipkins namedropped a hitherto unknown partner called "Tony" in his concession speech. Once the camera cutback to the studio, the presenters were scrambling to find out who this "Tony" is, what gender this person is etc.

Have they found anything yet?

One of the presenters repeated a rumour she'd heard that was possibly (in her words) libelous.
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« Reply #149 on: October 14, 2023, 05:55:02 AM »

Quite a dramatic turnaround compared with the previous election. Labour loses 23.4% of the vote, while the Nationals gain 13.7%. All minor parties also gain votes from Labour.
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