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« Reply #275 on: December 15, 2022, 03:02:00 PM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.

This is exactly why I really don't get why she's doing what she's doing. She could still vote like 98% of the way she does without the attention-seeking and grandstanding, and just working in better faith. Like what was the point here?
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« Reply #276 on: December 15, 2022, 03:02:36 PM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.
Not for nothing, for her she made bank from wall street and private equity firms in exchange for her gutting bills and blocking progress She'l also definitely get a cushy job in the private sector as a lobbyist or something after she comes in third in the general and likely hands some far-right extremist this seat in a three-way race.
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« Reply #277 on: December 15, 2022, 03:12:50 PM »

Sinema is deliberately trying to throw this election to the GOP and it's glorious.
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« Reply #278 on: December 15, 2022, 03:19:09 PM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.
Not for nothing, for her she made bank from wall street and private equity firms in exchange for her gutting bills and blocking progress She'l also definitely get a cushy job in the private sector as a lobbyist or something after she comes in third in the general and likely hands some far-right extremist this seat in a three-way race.

Or maybe she helps hand the seat to Gallego by taking votes from the far-right extremist.
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« Reply #279 on: December 15, 2022, 03:21:04 PM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.
Not for nothing, for her she made bank from wall street and private equity firms in exchange for her gutting bills and blocking progress She'l also definitely get a cushy job in the private sector as a lobbyist or something after she comes in third in the general and likely hands some far-right extremist this seat in a three-way race.

Or maybe she helps hand the seat to Gallego by taking votes from the far-right extremist.

She might very well, though I doubt it will be on purpose.
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« Reply #280 on: December 15, 2022, 03:24:50 PM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.
Not for nothing, for her she made bank from wall street and private equity firms in exchange for her gutting bills and blocking progress She'l also definitely get a cushy job in the private sector as a lobbyist or something after she comes in third in the general and likely hands some far-right extremist this seat in a three-way race.

Or maybe she helps hand the seat to Gallego by taking votes from the far-right extremist.

Thats pretty unlikely, Rs are gonna stick with their far-right nominee Kari Lake and Blake Masters got 46-48% of the vote, I don't see a significant number of them jumping ship for Sinema. Most of her voters likely gonna come from the Yee-Hobbs voters basically the McCain republican types. Far-right voters aren't gonna vote for Sinema who voted to impeach Trump twice.
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« Reply #281 on: December 15, 2022, 05:33:29 PM »

The ballad of Sinema is the most fascinating stories in modern politics

I cannot think of anyone having such potential, such promise, only to squander it on a silly little dance as she abandoned all her past positions becoming the thing she once sought to destroy
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« Reply #282 on: December 15, 2022, 05:44:57 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2022, 07:23:52 AM by NUPES Enjoyer »

The ballad of Sinema is the most fascinating stories in modern politics

I cannot think of anyone having such potential, such promise, only to squander it on a silly little dance as she abandoned all her past positions becoming the thing she once sought to destroy

That's giving her so much more credit than she deserves.

She's not some f**king tragic antihero. She's just an egotistical empty shell of a person who always said and did whatever she felt like with no regard for anyone or any consistent set of values. I don't understand what's so hard to understand about it.
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« Reply #283 on: December 16, 2022, 06:02:48 AM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.
Not for nothing, for her she made bank from wall street and private equity firms in exchange for her gutting bills and blocking progress She'l also definitely get a cushy job in the private sector as a lobbyist or something after she comes in third in the general and likely hands some far-right extremist this seat in a three-way race.

Ah!! Finally! THIS must be it. At long last. All these Wall Street and private equity/hedge fund donations in return for voting their way on legislation must be the "thing" that Sinema Stands ForTM that democrats don't that all the Moderate Heros keep talking about.
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« Reply #284 on: December 16, 2022, 09:18:29 AM »

Filling papers doesn't mean she's going to run btw
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« Reply #285 on: December 16, 2022, 09:38:43 AM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.

Sinema thinks she's Joe Lieberman 2.0. Instead, she'll end up as Charlie Crist 2.0.
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« Reply #286 on: December 16, 2022, 09:49:26 AM »

The ballad of Sinema is the most fascinating stories in modern politics

I cannot think of anyone having such potential, such promise, only to squander it on a silly little dance as she abandoned all her past positions becoming the thing she once sought to destroy

That's giving her so much more credit than she deserves.

She's not some f**king tragic antihero. She's just an egotistical empty shell of a person who always said and did whatever she felt like with no regard for anyone or any consistent set of values. I don't understand what's so hard to understand about it.

Eh, idk. Sort of, but I still do believe she was a rising star in 2018 when she got elected. Everyone was on board with her, she was a fresh face, seemed like a great addition to the caucus, she was witty (her vs McSally was incredible)... even in the 2020 run she vouched for Kelly. 2018-2020 Sinema is quite different from 2020-2022 Sinema
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« Reply #287 on: December 16, 2022, 10:11:32 AM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.
Not for nothing, for her she made bank from wall street and private equity firms in exchange for her gutting bills and blocking progress She'l also definitely get a cushy job in the private sector as a lobbyist or something after she comes in third in the general and likely hands some far-right extremist this seat in a three-way race.

Or maybe she helps hand the seat to Gallego by taking votes from the far-right extremist.

She’s just a Rorschach blotch at this point. Nobody can even say for sure if she will run
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« Reply #288 on: December 16, 2022, 10:37:56 AM »

The ballad of Sinema is the most fascinating stories in modern politics

I cannot think of anyone having such potential, such promise, only to squander it on a silly little dance as she abandoned all her past positions becoming the thing she once sought to destroy

That's giving her so much more credit than she deserves.

She's not some f**king tragic antihero. She's just an egotistical empty shell of a person who always said and did whatever she felt like with no regard for anyone or any consistent set of values. I don't understand what's so hard to understand about it.

Eh, idk. Sort of, but I still do believe she was a rising star in 2018 when she got elected. Everyone was on board with her, she was a fresh face, seemed like a great addition to the caucus, she was witty (her vs McSally was incredible)... even in the 2020 run she vouched for Kelly. 2018-2020 Sinema is quite different from 2020-2022 Sinema

She was already spouting moderate hero bullsh*t in her 2018 campaign if you actually listened to her. She was making it very clear that her interest was in upholding the status quo for well-off people and not much else. People just fell for the hype and assumed that because she was a young bisexual woman who used to be in the Green party, she must be a progressive, even though she already had a voting record in the House that was far from progressive.

You just got duped, my friend. Which is fine, it happens to all of us (God knows I fell for plenty of politicians who didn't deserve it in my days), but you should just recognize you got duped and move on.
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« Reply #289 on: December 16, 2022, 02:01:40 PM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.
Not for nothing, for her she made bank from wall street and private equity firms in exchange for her gutting bills and blocking progress She'l also definitely get a cushy job in the private sector as a lobbyist or something after she comes in third in the general and likely hands some far-right extremist this seat in a three-way race.

Ah!! Finally! THIS must be it. At long last. All these Wall Street and private equity/hedge fund donations in return for voting their way on legislation must be the "thing" that Sinema Stands ForTM that democrats don't that all the Moderate Heros keep talking about.
Exactly, shes "moderate" in the same way Manchin is, shes buyable and so is he. Moderate in DC is just another word for corrupt these days.
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« Reply #290 on: December 16, 2022, 02:22:30 PM »

I don't get why she'd think pandering to big business is more lucrative politically than just being a normal Democrat like Mark Kelly who isn't hated by the base and is rolling in cash anyway.
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« Reply #291 on: December 16, 2022, 02:25:29 PM »

Imagine being delusional enough to think you can win as independent.

She basically just needed to act and vote like Mark Kelly, who's far from a socialist, and run unopposed for the Democratic nomination and be favored in a general election. Instead, all the grandstanding and attention-seeking for nothing.

Sinema thinks she's Joe Lieberman 2.0. Instead, she'll end up as Charlie Crist 2.0.

I think you mean Blanche Lincoln.
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« Reply #292 on: December 16, 2022, 02:44:32 PM »

I don't get why she'd think pandering to big business is more lucrative politically than just being a normal Democrat like Mark Kelly who isn't hated by the base and is rolling in cash anyway.

Because she gets grossed out talking to people who don't have at least an MBA, makes her staffers handle all interaction with poors, and takes election advice from ppl like Mitt Romney lol

But to beat my dead horse, I also think she is a fundamentally selfish person who doesn't care too much about public opinion or re-election anyway. The party will continue somewhere else
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« Reply #293 on: December 16, 2022, 11:28:40 PM »

So Gallego sent out this email basically saying he’s going to run, just not yet

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So here is the truth about whether or not I am going to run against Senator Sinema:

Yes, I am thinking about it.

Yes, I have already been preparing for this possibility even before her party switch.

Yes, I believe that as a Marine, a Latino, and someone with a record of standing up for working people we can build a coalition that will win a 2-way race, 3-way race, 27-way race… doesn’t matter.

But what I need to know — more than ANYTHING else — is that the grassroots support is there. That’s the piece. If it’s there, this choice is easy.

So today, I am asking:

Please make a $3 contribution to my campaign. We will put it right to work making sure we have the resources we need to defeat Senator Sinema from day one.
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« Reply #294 on: December 17, 2022, 12:22:00 AM »

So Gallego sent out this email basically saying he’s going to run, just not yet

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So here is the truth about whether or not I am going to run against Senator Sinema:

Yes, I am thinking about it.

Yes, I have already been preparing for this possibility even before her party switch.

Yes, I believe that as a Marine, a Latino, and someone with a record of standing up for working people we can build a coalition that will win a 2-way race, 3-way race, 27-way race… doesn’t matter.

But what I need to know — more than ANYTHING else — is that the grassroots support is there. That’s the piece. If it’s there, this choice is easy.

So today, I am asking:

Please make a $3 contribution to my campaign. We will put it right to work making sure we have the resources we need to defeat Senator Sinema from day one.

I definitely didn't think that my first donation of the '24 cycle was going to be this early, yet here we are.
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« Reply #295 on: December 17, 2022, 12:27:51 AM »

She's betting on Gallego and Finchem being nominated and then saying "look at the far left and far right" vote for a moderate instead! I think she absolutely could pull it off if she plays her cards right and plays for the moderates. She also has incumbency advantage which helps.
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« Reply #296 on: December 17, 2022, 12:35:11 AM »

She's betting on Gallego and Finchem being nominated and then saying "look at the far left and far right" vote for a moderate instead! I think she absolutely could pull it off if she plays her cards right and plays for the moderates. She also has incumbency advantage which helps.

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« Reply #297 on: December 17, 2022, 01:15:46 AM »
« Edited: December 17, 2022, 01:19:05 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Lake already said she isn't interested and she isn't on politics 1.com Biggs is on there, but no questions asked Gallego is Latino Mexican not Cubans like in FL or TX different breed that's why Castros don't run in TX last name and Ted Cruz

But, no questions asked TX or FL are still battlegrounds, Rs just overperform in Rubio yrs not Cruz yrs he only won by 2
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« Reply #298 on: December 17, 2022, 03:16:47 AM »

She's betting on Gallego and Finchem being nominated and then saying "look at the far left and far right" vote for a moderate instead! I think she absolutely could pull it off if she plays her cards right and plays for the moderates. She also has incumbency advantage which helps.

Just like she did until now.
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« Reply #299 on: December 17, 2022, 02:38:19 PM »

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