Would George Washington made it to the year 1800 with today’s health care?
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« on: May 08, 2022, 11:24:04 PM »

He died on December 14, 1799, just less than three weeks shy of the 1800s.

The doctors backed then proved pretty negligent, draining up nearly half of his blood in an attempt to access his airway.

I know that doesn’t sound nice, but, everyone who even knows what it’s like to live in the 1800s for that matter, has been dead since 2017!
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2022, 11:05:13 AM »

Short of the universe hating Washington & longevity never being in the cards for him no matter what, I don't think a mere sore throat (that he was bled to death for) - if that's all that it was - would've taken him sometime within the next 18 days.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2022, 12:58:14 PM »

I wonder if he would have publicly supported Adams had he lived, so that he would have been re-elected in 1800. But then again, Hamilton was against Adams at this point, so Washington might have been also.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2022, 01:44:54 PM »

I wonder if he would have publicly supported Adams had he lived, so that he would have been re-elected in 1800. But then again, Hamilton was against Adams at this point, so Washington might have been also.

Washington would not have picked sides one way or another. He'd have stayed out of it.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2022, 02:51:57 PM »

Washington could have lived to 1800 with 18th century healthcare lmao
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2022, 02:23:56 PM »

There's no reason Washington shouldn't have lived another 5 years, let alone another 3 weeks.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2022, 06:08:01 PM »

I wonder if he would have publicly supported Adams had he lived, so that he would have been re-elected in 1800. But then again, Hamilton was against Adams at this point, so Washington might have been also.

Washington would not have picked sides one way or another. He'd have stayed out of it.
This is incorrect. For all his talk about nonpartisanship, Washington had become quite the Federalist partisan by the end of his life. He spent his last couple years trying to use his influence for the benefit of various Federalist candidates, and he and Jefferson were not on speaking terms at the end of his life.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2022, 08:55:16 PM »

I wonder if he would have publicly supported Adams had he lived, so that he would have been re-elected in 1800. But then again, Hamilton was against Adams at this point, so Washington might have been also.

Washington would not have picked sides one way or another. He'd have stayed out of it.
This is incorrect. For all his talk about nonpartisanship, Washington had become quite the Federalist partisan by the end of his life. He spent his last couple years trying to use his influence for the benefit of various Federalist candidates, and he and Jefferson were not on speaking terms at the end of his life.

I do know he joined the Federalists during his presidency, but I was always under the impression that he generally lamented partisanship and was fairly moderate and pragmatic. Most certainly I was unaware of the bolded - that he and Jefferson had a rocky relationship later on.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2022, 02:27:36 PM »

I wonder if he would have publicly supported Adams had he lived, so that he would have been re-elected in 1800. But then again, Hamilton was against Adams at this point, so Washington might have been also.

Washington would not have picked sides one way or another. He'd have stayed out of it.
This is incorrect. For all his talk about nonpartisanship, Washington had become quite the Federalist partisan by the end of his life. He spent his last couple years trying to use his influence for the benefit of various Federalist candidates, and he and Jefferson were not on speaking terms at the end of his life.

Was this not provoked by the open hostility and partisanship of Jefferson and his allies toward his administration even before TJ resigned from the Cabinet?
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2022, 01:02:40 AM »

I wonder if he would have publicly supported Adams had he lived, so that he would have been re-elected in 1800. But then again, Hamilton was against Adams at this point, so Washington might have been also.

Washington and Hamilton were very personally close but I don't think Washington would have started following Hamilton's lead on matters like this rather than the other way around, at least not at this point in Hamilton's life (his circa-1800 political ideology and approach were extreme even for the Federalists--more like a Bonapartist or a Frederick the Great simp than like Adams even at his most "muh national security"-minded).
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2022, 04:26:50 PM »

I wonder if he would have publicly supported Adams had he lived, so that he would have been re-elected in 1800. But then again, Hamilton was against Adams at this point, so Washington might have been also.

Washington and Hamilton were very personally close but I don't think Washington would have started following Hamilton's lead on matters like this rather than the other way around, at least not at this point in Hamilton's life (his circa-1800 political ideology and approach were extreme even for the Federalists--more like a Bonapartist or a Frederick the Great simp than like Adams even at his most "muh national security"-minded).


Hamilton literally tried to oust Adams in 1800 and replace him with Pickney (of course, his plan backfired, expediting Hamilton's political fall - and the fall of the Federalist Party's fortunes in general).
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2022, 07:33:53 PM »

I wonder if he would have publicly supported Adams had he lived, so that he would have been re-elected in 1800. But then again, Hamilton was against Adams at this point, so Washington might have been also.

Washington and Hamilton were very personally close but I don't think Washington would have started following Hamilton's lead on matters like this rather than the other way around, at least not at this point in Hamilton's life (his circa-1800 political ideology and approach were extreme even for the Federalists--more like a Bonapartist or a Frederick the Great simp than like Adams even at his most "muh national security"-minded).

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2022, 01:43:20 AM »

Yes, many people died before  anesthesia, Anesthesia wasn't invented until the WWII and if you got shot or wounded in war most died because there was no anesthesia to remove the bullet wound they tried to remove Garfield, Lincoln, and McKinley bullets and they all died from their injuries

Not only that many people had gum infections and gum disease create heart disease there was no anesthesia for tooth decay so many had heart problems from tooth decay

My Pops had gum disease and he died from a heart attack he never went to the Dentist, if you never go to the Dentists it creates gum disease
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