GoFundMe seizes funds of Canadian trucker convoy

[7,052,770]

It's pretty clear and undeniable at this point that these platforms are in the pocket of the left. If you are against the political establishment, and for liberty, platforms and tech companies will deny your service and deplatform you to stop any threat to their power.

Ah, that explains why day after day after day, the top Facebook shared and liked stories after from Ben Shapiro and other right-wing blowhards.

But does the right wing control Facebook? Is Mark Zuckerberg a conservative Republican?

Facebook shut down the trucker convoy page. It's always entertaining when Dems think conservative's popularity on Facebook means conservatives are treated equally and fairly. The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

You claimed "If you are against the political establishment, and for liberty, platforms and tech companies will deny your service and deplatform you to stop any threat to their power," and then try to spin my counterexample of Ben Shapiro being extremely popular on Facebook as evidence for your position somehow??

[Person Man]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

If you supported Black lives Matter, you have no right to complain about this. Literally cities were burned and looted for months.

If you were bothered by BLM, you should be by this “mob intimidation”.

[OSR stands with Israel]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

If you supported Black lives Matter, you have no right to complain about this. Literally cities were burned and looted for months.

If you were bothered by BLM, you should be by this “mob intimidation”.

There has been far far less violence with the Trucker protest

[7,052,770]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

If you supported Black lives Matter, you have no right to complain about this. Literally cities were burned and looted for months.

If you were bothered by BLM, you should be by this “mob intimidation”.

There has been far far less violence with the Trucker protest

On a per-capita level, I kinda doubt it.

[GeorgiaModerate]

GoFundMe is automatically returning all the donations (the donors no longer have to request a refund):

https://twitter.com/gofundme/status/1489870511215546371
Note the timestamp (2:56 AM EST), so everyone who has been whining about it during the day today is either behind the news or gaslighting.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Being patriotic is not allowed anymore. If they shut down the fundraiser, they should be returning every cent back to the donors, not funneling it into left-wing charities.

We need to show the truckers even more support now.

They weren't left-wing charities; they were selected by the convoy organizers.  But the whole thing is moot now since GoFundMe announced overnight that they are automatically returning all donations to the donors.

[thebeloitmoderate]

Why is BigSerg back trolling everyone?

[Associate Justice PiT]

GoFundMe is automatically returning all the donations (the donors no longer have to request a refund):

https://twitter.com/gofundme/status/1489870511215546371
Note the timestamp (2:56 AM EST), so everyone who has been whining about it during the day today is either behind the news or gaslighting.

     Goes to show public outcry can make a difference.

[T'Chenka]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

[West_Midlander]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

Big tech didn't censor Russiagate lies.

[GeorgiaModerate]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

Big tech didn't censor Russiagate lies.

Funny how your responses always seem to circle back to the Russia investigation, even on completely unrelated topics like this one.  Perhaps your algorithm needs tweaking.

[7,052,770]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

Big tech didn't censor Russiagate lies.

It's always so hard to pin down what Republicans mean when they say "Russiagate lies." You have to define Russiagate pretty broadly to get it to be a lie, something like "Hillary actually won, but Russia changed the vote totals!!!!11" but then that's not what people generally mean when they talk about it.

[West_Midlander]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

Big tech didn't censor Russiagate lies.

Funny how your responses always seem to circle back to the Russia investigation, even on completely unrelated topics like this one.  Perhaps your algorithm needs tweaking.

It's easy to call your fellow American a bot just because you disagree. He mentioned "spreading false propaganda" and "big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it" implying that the left doesn't do the same thing or that the left was censored when they pushed the Russia narrative, so it is relevant.

Might as well add that this sort of hostility to someone who is an Indy and who split their ticket in 2020 is greatly encouraging to vote GOP since supporting Democrats is supporting people who say I am a bot, people who say that conservatives are generally dumb, people who say that Dems working against election results is OK or not an issue at all while R attempts to do the same, or even to just investigate the election, is appalling, anti-democracy, fascist, etc.

A vote for Democrats is supporting hypocrisy on gerrymandering and a false sense of moral superiority held by that party and its supporters. Despite all this, I am not committing to vote straight ticket R or to register R at this time but comments and attitudes such as these are definitely discouraging a possible vote for Dems for me this year.

[It’s so Joever]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

Big tech didn't censor Russiagate lies.

Funny how your responses always seem to circle back to the Russia investigation, even on completely unrelated topics like this one.  Perhaps your algorithm needs tweaking.

It's easy to call your fellow American a bot just because you disagree. He mentioned "spreading false propaganda" and "big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it" implying that the left doesn't do the same thing or that the left was censored when they pushed the Russia narrative, so it is relevant.

Might as well add that this sort of hostility to someone who is an Indy and who split their ticket in 2020 is greatly encouraging to vote GOP since supporting Democrats is supporting people who say I am a bot, people who say that conservatives are generally dumb, people who say that Dems working against election results is OK or not an issue at all while R attempts to do the same, or even to just investigate the election, is appalling, anti-democracy, fascist, etc.

A vote for Democrats is supporting hypocrisy on gerrymandering and a false sense of moral superiority held by that party and its supporters. Despite all this, I am not committing to vote straight ticket R or to register R at this time but comments and attitudes such as these are definitely discouraging a possible vote for Dems for me this year.

“Well Republicans are Proto fascists who want to deny those with preexisting conditions basic health insurance…but someone called me a bot on Atlas”

[It’s so Joever]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

Big tech didn't censor Russiagate lies.

Funny how your responses always seem to circle back to the Russia investigation, even on completely unrelated topics like this one.  Perhaps your algorithm needs tweaking.

It's easy to call your fellow American a bot just because you disagree. He mentioned "spreading false propaganda" and "big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it" implying that the left doesn't do the same thing or that the left was censored when they pushed the Russia narrative, so it is relevant.

Might as well add that this sort of hostility to someone who is an Indy and who split their ticket in 2020 is greatly encouraging to vote GOP since supporting Democrats is supporting people who say I am a bot, people who say that conservatives are generally dumb, people who say that Dems working against election results is OK or not an issue at all while R attempts to do the same, or even to just investigate the election, is appalling, anti-democracy, fascist, etc.

A vote for Democrats is supporting hypocrisy on gerrymandering and a false sense of moral superiority held by that party and its supporters. Despite all this, I am not committing to vote straight ticket R or to register R at this time but comments and attitudes such as these are definitely discouraging a possible vote for Dems for me this year.

[West_Midlander]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

Big tech didn't censor Russiagate lies.

Funny how your responses always seem to circle back to the Russia investigation, even on completely unrelated topics like this one.  Perhaps your algorithm needs tweaking.

It's easy to call your fellow American a bot just because you disagree. He mentioned "spreading false propaganda" and "big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it" implying that the left doesn't do the same thing or that the left was censored when they pushed the Russia narrative, so it is relevant.

Might as well add that this sort of hostility to someone who is an Indy and who split their ticket in 2020 is greatly encouraging to vote GOP since supporting Democrats is supporting people who say I am a bot, people who say that conservatives are generally dumb, people who say that Dems working against election results is OK or not an issue at all while R attempts to do the same, or even to just investigate the election, is appalling, anti-democracy, fascist, etc.

A vote for Democrats is supporting hypocrisy on gerrymandering and a false sense of moral superiority held by that party and its supporters. Despite all this, I am not committing to vote straight ticket R or to register R at this time but comments and attitudes such as these are definitely discouraging a possible vote for Dems for me this year.

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This literally only applies to 4% of what I wrote (9 words; "A vote for Democrats is supporting hypocrisy on gerrymandering").

What amazing cherry picking!

[It’s so Joever]

The reality right now is, big tech and the media treat conservatives and opposition to the current political establishment like they are a fringe, 20% or less of the country, group that needs to be controlled and suppressed for the "safety" of the population. Yet they are nearly half the country, and their popularity on these platforms in spite of conservatives disproportionately not using social media and being subject to disproportionate censorship should tell you just how "mainstream" people like Ben Shapiro and his opinions are in the general populace.

If huge swaths of the Canadian (or American) public begin shifting into spreading false propaganda and undermining democracy, big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it.

Big tech didn't censor Russiagate lies.

Funny how your responses always seem to circle back to the Russia investigation, even on completely unrelated topics like this one.  Perhaps your algorithm needs tweaking.

It's easy to call your fellow American a bot just because you disagree. He mentioned "spreading false propaganda" and "big tech and the media aren't obligated to go along with it, regardless of whether the left or right are doing it" implying that the left doesn't do the same thing or that the left was censored when they pushed the Russia narrative, so it is relevant.

Might as well add that this sort of hostility to someone who is an Indy and who split their ticket in 2020 is greatly encouraging to vote GOP since supporting Democrats is supporting people who say I am a bot, people who say that conservatives are generally dumb, people who say that Dems working against election results is OK or not an issue at all while R attempts to do the same, or even to just investigate the election, is appalling, anti-democracy, fascist, etc.

A vote for Democrats is supporting hypocrisy on gerrymandering and a false sense of moral superiority held by that party and its supporters. Despite all this, I am not committing to vote straight ticket R or to register R at this time but comments and attitudes such as these are definitely discouraging a possible vote for Dems for me this year.

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This literally only applies to 4% of what I wrote (9 words; "A vote for Democrats is supporting hypocrisy on gerrymandering").

What amazing cherry picking!

Do the following images better incorporate the wonderful contributions you have made to this thread?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

And, yet, you are fine with the violent protests of BLM in Minneapolis, Seattle, Kenosha, Atlanta, et. al.

(EDIT:  I apologize for this statement, as it is not accurate.  While I criticize Grand Mufti T'Chenka for not condemning the BLM protests that occurred during COVID-19 restrictions, he did not ever say violence was OK.  He was fine with the protests going on, and that is the crux of my disagreement with him on this issue.  But he's a good person and I should have worded the above more accurately.)

BLM did not lose revenue streams when they conducted violent protests; they GAINED revenue streams.  And BLM did all the things you criticize and then some.  The truckers, whose cause I presume you disagree with are not burning buildings, harassing diners at restaurants, going to peoples' houses at midnight and loudly chanting "Wake up, m-----f-----, wake up!".  

GoFundMe are now "walking back" their plan to take these monies and give them to charities of GoFundMe's choice.  Isn't that flat out theft?  Where's your outrage on that?

My outrage over this is that BLM is treated with kid gloves while these Truckers are treated as criminals, when the FACT is that BLM committed more acts of criminality in their protests than these truckers.  You may not like their cause, but they are law-abiding citizens, and I support them because they are standing up to the Walking Abscess that is your Prime Minister who is actively depriving ordinary Canadians of individual freedoms that, until now, were taken for granted and considered unremarkable.  Justin Trudeau is a coward who won't even speak to the group; he cowers (unnecessarily) in some "undisclosed location" and libels these people.  This is a man that will cite one example of some individual (likely a ringer) to call this group "racists" (and other slanderous names) but will not refer to BLM protesters "criminals", even though their protests featured arson, violent takeovers of police precincts, etc. occurred.

GoFundMe is scum.  Justin Trudeau is a coward.  If GoFundMe and its execs face criminal charges for conspiring to commit theft of funds, I'm fine with it.

[All Along The Watchtower]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

And, yet, you are fine with the violent protests of BLM in Minneapolis, Seattle, Kenosha, Atlanta, et. al.

WHAT ABOUT BLM - Fuzzy Bear in every argument

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Not that I mind that. It's a good thing to see the truckers fighting back against this nanny state drivel.

Canadian citizens / voters show overall support for the govermment on this when polled. We aren't libertarians up here.

That's too bad.  Canadian citizens will not appreciate their own civil liberties until they're gone and Justin Trudeau likes power too much to give them back.

My heart goes out to ordinary Canadians who are trying to live normal lives.

[Xeuma]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

And, yet, you are fine with the violent protests of BLM in Minneapolis, Seattle, Kenosha, Atlanta, et. al.

WHAT ABOUT BLM - Fuzzy Bear in every argument

Comparing the treatment of BLM protestors to these seems like a pretty fair point.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

And, yet, you are fine with the violent protests of BLM in Minneapolis, Seattle, Kenosha, Atlanta, et. al.

WHAT ABOUT BLM - Fuzzy Bear in every argument

When one group is treated so differently, and so deferentially, while other groups, who are more well-behaved in their advocacy and demonstrations are vindictively penalized, that does very much beg the question of "Why the difference?" and "What's the standard?".  Why did no one seek to deplatform BLM, cut off their funding, or something on that order after, say, the burning and destruction of Kenosha, WI?  Or for their occupation of Police Precincts in Minneapolis and NYC?  

If people's reason is "I favor BLM and disfavor Canadian Truckers!", then let them be honest about that.  If you want to base a decision to yank funding on how a group is actually behaving in the public arena, then these Truckers have it all over BLM.  This isn't how each of these groups are behaving/have behaved individually and collectively; it's about whose cause is favored and whose cause isn't.

That you don't favor a cause that is, nonetheless, a lawful cause is no reason to deny usage of a service that is presumably offered regardless of service.  Those who oppose lockdowns, mandatory vaccinations, and any other authoritarian response to COVID-19 should not ever be denied ordinary services simply because of a political stance.  "Freedom" and "Liberty" ought to mean more than the idea that repression of free speech and basic rights to use public services open for all is dependent on ideological conformity to the agendas of a private entity.

[ProudModerate2]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

And, yet, you are fine with the violent protests of BLM in Minneapolis, Seattle, Kenosha, Atlanta, et. al.

[Thomas D]

But isn't this a 2 way street?  If you were against the BLM protests, don't you also have to be against this?

[T'Chenka]

This "peaceful protest" (occupation) causes a lot of problems for the citizens and businesses of Ottawa. I want GoFundMe to be fair about this, but they violated the terms and conditions and now they lost their revenue stream. As a critic of the occupation, this is great news.

And, yet, you are fine with the violent protests of BLM in Minneapolis, Seattle, Kenosha, Atlanta, et. al.

This is a false statement and everybody on this forum of all avatar colours know it. Come on, man.

BLM did not lose revenue streams when they conducted violent protests; they GAINED revenue streams.  And BLM did all the things you criticize and then some.  The truckers, whose cause I presume you disagree with are not burning buildings, harassing diners at restaurants, going to peoples' houses at midnight and loudly chanting "Wake up, m-----f-----, wake up!". 

I would be happy to see the protestors / agitators that did that lose their revenue stream. Whether those actions were coordinated by the BLM organization is another story.

BLM did not lose revenue stream
GoFundMe are now "walking back" their plan to take these monies and give them to charities of GoFundMe's choice.  Isn't that flat out theft?  Where's your outrage on that?

Yeah, I'm against that. Just give the money back UNLESS it states right in the terms of service that this is GoFundMe's policy. In which case, follow your policies but I dislike the policy.

My outrage over this is that BLM is treated with kid gloves while these Truckers are treated as criminals, when the FACT is that BLM committed more acts of criminality in their protests than these truckers. 

We have a mask mandate in Ontario and I can guarantee you that that law / by-law has been broken over 10,000  times by these losers in Ottawa since the protest started. So, you're definitely wrong here. Breaking a law because you disagree with it still counts as breaking a law.

You may not like their cause, but they are law-abiding citizens, and I support them because they are standing up to the Walking Abscess that is your Prime Minister who is actively depriving ordinary Canadians of individual freedoms that, until now, were taken for granted and considered unremarkable. 

I'm not a huge fan of Trudeau, but he's trying to protect people like my mother from getting killed by these people. The public overall supports Trudeau and opposes these people. If this country isn't libertarian enough for them, they're welcome to go live in Trumpistan.