GoFundMe seizes funds of Canadian trucker convoy

[Benjamin Frank]

Which wikipedia article?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Philadelphia

Since this mess was allowed to continue without much resistance, this gave license for normal people to double down and create a society that runs exactly like that, except for their benefit instead of the hooligans'.

Blacks aren't 'normal people'?

Working people of all backgrounds are normal. Animals who blow up ATMs and loot luxury consumer goods to make money are hooligans. Very easy to tell the difference.

Except you said that 'normal' people now have license to do this.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Which wikipedia article?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Philadelphia

Since this mess was allowed to continue without much resistance, this gave license for normal people to double down and create a society that runs exactly like that, except for their benefit instead of the hooligans'.

Blacks aren't 'normal people'?

Working people of all backgrounds are normal. Animals who blow up ATMs and loot luxury consumer goods to make money are hooligans. Very easy to tell the difference.

Except you said that 'normal' people now have license to do this.

I'm not aware of people personally benefitting themselves through illegitimate means. In fact, they took the risk of doing the opposite - sacrificing their working hours as a de facto strike without the expectation of outside support.

What they have license to do it politically targeted disruption to get what they want.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

-snip-

Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

[Benjamin Frank]

Which wikipedia article?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Philadelphia

Since this mess was allowed to continue without much resistance, this gave license for normal people to double down and create a society that runs exactly like that, except for their benefit instead of the hooligans'.

Blacks aren't 'normal people'?

Working people of all backgrounds are normal. Animals who blow up ATMs and loot luxury consumer goods to make money are hooligans. Very easy to tell the difference.

Except you said that 'normal' people now have license to do this.

I'm not aware of people personally benefitting themselves through illegitimate means. In fact, they took the risk of doing the opposite - sacrificing their working hours as a de facto strike without the expectation of outside support.

What they have license to do it politically targeted disruption to get what they want.

You made no mention of personal benefit or looters initially.

[Crumpets]

Was that the longest continuous stretch of orange avatar posts ever?

[ProudModerate2]

I guess rioting is now a part of the process now that Nationalists have bought into so-called BLM style tactics.

BLM changed the rules of civilization, and now that we know those are part of the new acceptable rules endorsed by the establishment, they are not going away. There shall be no unilateral disarmament just because people don't like it.

Well, right wingers bought the myth of these new rules, since the vast majority of BLM protests didn't involve riots or otherwise illegal acts.

Blatant lies obvious to all of us with eyes who witnessed it. Your fradulent statitistics that count 20 people protesting at a carwash on the side of the road in Long Island equal to the mass demonstrations in cities don't fool anybody but yourselves. In that case, we had many many peaceful COVID demonstrations in the Midwest last summer which outweigh this singular act. (Lotta good that did)

You personally witnessed them or you witnessed them on Fox 'News'?

I witnessed them burning down buildings in my neighborhood - fires were blazing in all directions within eyesight of my roof. The holes are still in the ground where buildings no longer stand. And this is the part of the city that actually had a defensive operation because they have to keep those of us who pay taxes around. Almost feel bad for those that don't.

How do you know these were caused by the BLM types?

Because I have eyes ...

In other words ... Sprouts saw "the blacks" doing it.

[Mr. Reactionary]

-snip-

Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

This is like the dumbest argument comparing violent riots and the efforts to lionize them to sign wavers. Your own numbers say 220 locations had riots over a 3 month period. Thats like 3 riots a day, every day, for 3 consecutive months. Are you seriously pretending thats not a big deal? I dont give a damn that there were 2,400 sign waving events. I care that mobs of criminals on 220 separate occassions over a 3 month period caused $1 billion in damage, injured thousands of cops, and murdered dozens of people while the media lied, the Dems bailed out the rioters as they claimed they didnt even exist, and the Soros prosecutors dismissed the charges.

But omg its the horn honking in canada and rubbing poop on the capitol walls thats the terrizms.

[Santander]

If there were 220 violent right-wing protests over that period of time, Democrats would be calling for the Republican Party to be labeled a terrorist organization.

[Benjamin Frank]

-snip-

Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

This is like the dumbest argument comparing violent riots and the efforts to lionize them to sign wavers. Your own numbers say 220 locations had riots over a 3 month period. Thats like 3 riots a day, every day, for 3 consecutive months. Are you seriously pretending thats not a big deal? I dont give a damn that there were 2,400 sign waving events. I care that mobs of criminals on 220 separate occassions over a 3 month period caused $1 billion in damage, injured thousands of cops, and murdered dozens of people while the media lied, the Dems bailed out the rioters as they claimed they didnt even exist, and the Soros prosecutors dismissed the charges.

But omg its the horn honking in canada and rubbing poop on the capitol walls thats the terrizms.

Most of this is lies.

[Frodo]

-snip-

Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

This is like the dumbest argument comparing violent riots and the efforts to lionize them to sign wavers. Your own numbers say 220 locations had riots over a 3 month period. Thats like 3 riots a day, every day, for 3 consecutive months. Are you seriously pretending thats not a big deal? I dont give a damn that there were 2,400 sign waving events. I care that mobs of criminals on 220 separate occassions over a 3 month period caused $1 billion in damage, injured thousands of cops, and murdered dozens of people while the media lied, the Dems bailed out the rioters as they claimed they didnt even exist, and the Soros prosecutors dismissed the charges.

But omg its the horn honking in canada and rubbing poop on the capitol walls thats the terrizms.

Most of this is lies.

Even if Mr. Reactionary was right about half of anything he said, it doesn't matter.  All that can now be considered 'legitimate political discourse' thanks to his Republican friends in Congress.  To say otherwise would be rank, shameless hypocrisy of the highest order.    

[Mr. Reactionary]

-snip-

Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

This is like the dumbest argument comparing violent riots and the efforts to lionize them to sign wavers. Your own numbers say 220 locations had riots over a 3 month period. Thats like 3 riots a day, every day, for 3 consecutive months. Are you seriously pretending thats not a big deal? I dont give a damn that there were 2,400 sign waving events. I care that mobs of criminals on 220 separate occassions over a 3 month period caused $1 billion in damage, injured thousands of cops, and murdered dozens of people while the media lied, the Dems bailed out the rioters as they claimed they didnt even exist, and the Soros prosecutors dismissed the charges.

But omg its the horn honking in canada and rubbing poop on the capitol walls thats the terrizms.

Most of this is lies.

Even if Mr. Reactionary was right about half of anything he said, it doesn't matter.

WTF am i wrong about? Did you sleep through 2020 or did you just only watch CNN? Heres a goddamn citation for every damn claim. After 2020 Im not taking any lectures from Dems on riots.

https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html

https://www.policemag.com/585160/more-than-2-000-officers-injured-in-summers-protests-and-riots

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513902-cnn-ridiculed-for-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-caption-with-video-of-burning

https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1267555018128965643?lang=en

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-antifa-idea-not-025049929.html

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/10/multnomah-county-da-declines-to-prosecute-70-of-portland-protest-cases.html

[Benjamin Frank]

-snip-

Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

This is like the dumbest argument comparing violent riots and the efforts to lionize them to sign wavers. Your own numbers say 220 locations had riots over a 3 month period. Thats like 3 riots a day, every day, for 3 consecutive months. Are you seriously pretending thats not a big deal? I dont give a damn that there were 2,400 sign waving events. I care that mobs of criminals on 220 separate occassions over a 3 month period caused $1 billion in damage, injured thousands of cops, and murdered dozens of people while the media lied, the Dems bailed out the rioters as they claimed they didnt even exist, and the Soros prosecutors dismissed the charges.

But omg its the horn honking in canada and rubbing poop on the capitol walls thats the terrizms.

Most of this is lies.

Even if Mr. Reactionary was right about half of anything he said, it doesn't matter.

WTF am i wrong about? Did you sleep through 2020 or did you just only watch CNN? Heres a goddamn citation for every damn claim. After 2020 Im not taking any lectures from Dems on riots.

https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html

https://www.policemag.com/585160/more-than-2-000-officers-injured-in-summers-protests-and-riots

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513902-cnn-ridiculed-for-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-caption-with-video-of-burning

https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1267555018128965643?lang=en

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-antifa-idea-not-025049929.html

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/10/multnomah-county-da-declines-to-prosecute-70-of-portland-protest-cases.html

From the same https://www.policemag.com/585160/more-than-2-000-officers-injured-in-summers-protests-and-riots that you linked to:


    In most cases, the criminal acts were the work of individuals or small groups that infiltrated larger demonstrations, according to the organization.

'the organization' being the Major Cities Chiefs Association.

So, no. You have not presented evidence that BLM protesters were responsible for the things you claim.  I know your reading comprehension is very poor though.

There are other problems with your post. For instance, it's be no means certain, or even likely, that all 'riots and other civil disobedience' was related to BLM protests during that time period.  There were counter protesters at many of the BLM protests who engaged in violence, and then there were often counter protesters to those counter protesters (ANTIFA.)  

So, it's far from certain that anywhere near all the violence leading to injury or death was caused by BLM protesters.

However, the main problem is you either didn't read your own link, or you didn't comprehend what it meant.

[Person Man]

-snip-

Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

This is like the dumbest argument comparing violent riots and the efforts to lionize them to sign wavers. Your own numbers say 220 locations had riots over a 3 month period. Thats like 3 riots a day, every day, for 3 consecutive months. Are you seriously pretending thats not a big deal? I dont give a damn that there were 2,400 sign waving events. I care that mobs of criminals on 220 separate occassions over a 3 month period caused $1 billion in damage, injured thousands of cops, and murdered dozens of people while the media lied, the Dems bailed out the rioters as they claimed they didnt even exist, and the Soros prosecutors dismissed the charges.

But omg its the horn honking in canada and rubbing poop on the capitol walls thats the terrizms.

Most of this is lies.

Even if Mr. Reactionary was right about half of anything he said, it doesn't matter.

WTF am i wrong about? Did you sleep through 2020 or did you just only watch CNN? Heres a goddamn citation for every damn claim. After 2020 Im not taking any lectures from Dems on riots.

https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html

https://www.policemag.com/585160/more-than-2-000-officers-injured-in-summers-protests-and-riots

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513902-cnn-ridiculed-for-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-caption-with-video-of-burning

https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1267555018128965643?lang=en

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-antifa-idea-not-025049929.html

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/10/multnomah-county-da-declines-to-prosecute-70-of-portland-protest-cases.html

From the same https://www.policemag.com/585160/more-than-2-000-officers-injured-in-summers-protests-and-riots that you linked to:


    In most cases, the criminal acts were the work of individuals or small groups that infiltrated larger demonstrations, according to the organization.

'the organization' being the Major Cities Chiefs Association.

So, no. You have not presented evidence that BLM protesters were responsible for the things you claim.  I know your reading comprehension is very poor though.

There are other problems with your post. For instance, it's be no means certain, or even likely, that all 'riots and other civil disobedience' was related to BLM protests during that time period.  There were counter protesters at many of the BLM protests who engaged in violence, and then there were often counter protesters to those counter protesters (ANTIFA.)  

So, it's far from certain that anywhere near all the violence leading to injury or death was caused by BLM protesters.

However, the main problem is you either didn't read your own link, or you didn't comprehend what it meant.

You know his reading skills are fine. There’s tons of smart segregationists.

[T'Chenka]

Youtube just recommended me a "Preemptive SOS Truckers press conference" or something like that, and the thumbnail of the protest leaders speaking were ALL white. I'm not saying that there's anything racist going on or anything like that, but I found it... let's use the word "notable"... that it appears to be a bunch of white people pulling the strings of this occupation. Southern Ontario, especially urban areas, is fairly multicultural. I believe Toronto is the most multicultural city in the entire world.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

If that's how these arguments go, you know who else was an individual actor or small group infiltrating a larger protest? The idiots who blockaded doors of a residential building and started a fire. The other 99 percent of protestors are non violent honking.

Historically there was no way I'd be the least bit sympathetic to demonstrators like this causing a ruckus, but after everyone was so indifferent to me being in the line of danger, I can only hope the same happens to them so they know what was being cheered on.

[T'Chenka]

If that's how these arguments go, you know who else was an individual actor or small group infiltrating a larger protest? The idiots who blockaded doors of a residential building and started a fire. The other 99 percent of protestors are non violent honking.

We'll see if that's the case. It probably is. We'll also see if the occupation leaders condemn it or not.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It's okay to protest if you do it my way and my way only.  Yes, Herr Justin!

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1490885400214511620

[Calthrina950]

It's okay to protest if you do it my way and my way only.  Yes, Herr Justin!

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1490885400214511620

Say what you will about the truckers, but I've never understood why Canadians continue to reelect Trudeau and his party.

[7,052,770]

It's okay to protest if you do it my way and my way only.  Yes, Herr Justin!

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1490885400214511620

Unironically yes? These truckers (and the vaccinated clowns simping for them) were already extremely unsympathetic from the beginning, but their behavior has been so vile that I somehow found room to oppose them even more.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It's okay to protest if you do it my way and my way only.  Yes, Herr Justin!

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1490885400214511620

Unironically yes? These truckers (and the vaccinated clowns simping for them) were already extremely unsympathetic from the beginning, but their behavior has been so vile that I somehow found room to oppose them even more.

Trudeau's behavior and dictatorial edicts are what's vile.

[7,052,770]

It's okay to protest if you do it my way and my way only.  Yes, Herr Justin!

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1490885400214511620

Unironically yes? These truckers (and the vaccinated clowns simping for them) were already extremely unsympathetic from the beginning, but their behavior has been so vile that I somehow found room to oppose them even more.

Trudeau's behavior and dictatorial edicts are what's vile.

Apparently not

[OSR stands with Israel]

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Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

And those 7% were far worse than whatever the Truckers are doing

[OSR stands with Israel]

If there were 220 violent right-wing protests over that period of time, Democrats would be calling for the Republican Party to be labeled a terrorist organization.

There weren’t 220 violent rights and many democrats still want to do that

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Justin Trudeau is probably the best head of government in the Anglosphere and his opposition is full of clowns who would be much worse if you want to know the state of global politics.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

-snip-

Fuzzy, 93% of BLM protests were peaceful, and the violent ones were not as big as you seem to think.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,5 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

And those 7% were far worse than whatever the Truckers are doing

Arson suspected in Ottawa protest zone apartment fire near Parliament Hill

Police are investigating what appears to be an attempt to start a fire in the lobby of a downtown Ottawa apartment building, where tenants say they have been besieged by anti-vaccine mandate protesters raging in the national capital for more than a week.

Matias Munoz said that when he came downstairs Sunday morning, he saw the carpet and floor were charred, and that there were blackened fire-starter bricks strewn across the lobby.

The building manager showed him surveillance video, which he said appears to show two men light a package of the bricks in the lobby and secure the front door handles together before leaving through the side door around 5 a.m. Sunday.

(Not that your claim would be anywhere close to true even if the above event had nothing to do with the protesters, but this in particular is completely beyond the pale.)