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« on: October 16, 2021, 01:32:00 PM »

Unless Breyer retires prior to December 2022, Im going to say no.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2021, 01:36:18 PM »

Nope. Breyer's ego is going to pull a Ginsburg and make certain his seat is stolen by MoscowMitch and the GOP.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2021, 01:44:06 PM »

Yeah, Breyer is gonna retire between now and  before 2026, Biden is gonna easily get reelected he is beating DeSantis in FL and we don't need FL

Kentaji is the next Justice
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2021, 02:14:20 PM »

Yes Breyer is retiring next year. Kentaji Brown Jackson was his clerk and everything should be good.

I still do like how he is panicking everyone even though it is obvious he will retire for the midterms.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2021, 02:18:31 PM »

Nope. Breyer's ego is going to pull a Ginsburg and make certain his seat is stolen by MoscowMitch and the GOP.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2021, 02:19:55 PM »

I still think that he will, though my confidence has declined over recent months. I actually thought Breyer would retire by summer this year. I just hope he has learned lessons from RBG because otherwise the Supreme Court will be completely gone for a very long, long time.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2021, 02:26:55 PM »

I'm not sure. I don't know what kind of stunt Sinema is going to attempt to pull.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2021, 02:29:12 PM »

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I'm not sure. I don't know what kind of stunt Sinema is going to attempt to pull.

When has Sinema voted against a single judge from Biden?
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2021, 02:31:59 PM »

Yes. I think Breyer wanted to write some more minority opinions and embrace being the most senior liberal justice before deciding to retire in June 2022. Breyer knows that if he doesn’t retire it could be catastrophic. However, I think replacing Breyer will be the only Supreme Court justice appointment Biden will get to make.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2021, 02:40:45 PM »

Yes. I think Breyer wanted to write some more minority opinions and embrace being the most senior liberal justice before deciding to retire in June 2022. Breyer knows that if he doesn’t retire it could be catastrophic. However, I think replacing Breyer will be the only Supreme Court justice appointment Biden will get to make.

Yeah I don’t see how Biden gets another appointment after Breyer unless Dems somehow held the Senate in 2022 and something unexpected happened before the 2024 election (when Dems would likely lose the senate due to the class that is up then).
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2021, 02:53:24 PM »

Accidentally voted no, clearly meant to vote yes. In any event:

I guess I'll just repost these quotes whenever Breyer's continued existence is in the news & resultantly triggers some of y'all, which will presumably happen at least a few more times over the next 9-12 months, given that some of y'all are just so easily spooked by literally anything that's not perfectly aligned with your visions of reality as you'd like it to be. Eh, who am I kidding? It's not like most of you are gonna even bother reading what I have, have had, & will continue to have to say on this matter anyway, let alone bother retaining the evidence put forth therein, because you evidently haven't before:

I don't understand why this is really all that baffling to some when there are frankly a litany of reasons - not at all involving "hubris," let alone of a "pure" variety - as to why he'd retire next summer instead of this summer: wanting to hear next year's abortion & affirmative action cases even if it's as a dissenter, not wanting to go without taking part in more in-person oral arguments as opposed to leaving right now when they're still remote over-the-phone, feeling confident about Pat Leahy's health not depriving Senate Democrats of a majority by next summer, & - of course - wanting to see KBJ succeed him, which likely wouldn't be the case if he were to step down right now, as she literally just got confirmed to the D.C. Circuit 3 weeks ago & isn't even slated to hear her first appellate case 'til Sept. Indeed, his asking one of his OT2020 clerks to stick around for another term (which is an unheard-of rarity when it comes to SCOTUS clerkships) implies that his doing so was just the easiest thing to do on short notice after presumably considering retirement this summer before making up his mind - for all of the aforementioned reasons - on one more year. Seriously, the available evidence at hand just doesn't point to Breyer willingly being "RBG 2: Electric Boogaloo," which makes sense, given his famous pragmatism.

Not retiring in the first summer of a Democratic presidency ≠ a naive blanket refusal to retire under a Democratic presidency, thus risking his death under a Republican presidency. Seriously, what is it with everybody on the left-of-center acting in recent days as if Breyer not retiring right now at this very moment equates to the literal end of the world? There's literally another summer left before the midterms, & Pat Leahy's doing just fine; Breyer's former clerk-turned-natural successor was literally just appointed to SCOTUS' Triple-A team, almost as if she's being teed-up for the inevitable vacancy that she's pretty much been the frontrunner for this whole time (& it's not like Breyer - who'd presumably like to see a valued former clerk of his own replace him - doesn't understand that retiring at this very moment would probably result in her actually not being the pick, given that being nominated for SCOTUS less than 3 weeks after becoming an appellate judge & before even hearing a single appellate case wouldn't be a good look); & one of Justice Breyer's OT2021 clerks is literally one of his OT2020 clerks whom he's asked to stick around for another term (which is an unheard-of rarity when it comes to SCOTUS clerkships), with the prominent implication being that his doing so was just the easiest thing to do on short notice after presumably considering retirement this summer before making up his mind - for all of the aforementioned reasons, & more (e.g., abortion/AA cases, one last in-person term) - on 1 more year. Seriously, y'all, all of the evidence points to one direction that looks a lot more like Summer 2022 than it does Armageddon.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2021, 02:56:50 PM »

Nope. Breyer's ego is going to pull a Ginsburg and make certain his seat is stolen by MoscowMitch and the GOP.

There is no such thing as a "stolen seat." Justices are not entitled to hold the seat for someone of their ideological mould in perpetuity. They are, however, constitutionally entitled to hold the seat until their death or retirement, and the President entitled to choose their replacement with Senate approval, whoever that may be.

Did Chase "steal" his seat from Chief Justice Taney?
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2021, 03:03:51 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2021, 03:10:56 PM »

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When has Sinema voted against a single judge from Biden?

I don't trust her enough not to grandstand in a moment like that. A Supreme Court nomination is completely different.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2021, 03:33:50 PM »

Breyer, like Ginsburg, is putting their ambition and power over the good of the country, so more than likely not.
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2021, 03:42:09 PM »

Breyer is absolutely going to retire, calm the hell down.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2021, 04:02:07 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2021, 04:15:00 PM by lfromnj »

Also by the way Breyer staying on could be beneficial to liberals. It might better to have an elder there who can maybe persuade Roberts and Kavanaugh to moderate their opinions for the upcoming term. A freshman justice would merely getting coffee and leaving all the work to Kagan .

Now obviously Breyer not retiring in 2022 would be extremely detrimental but the risk of backfire for staying on till the Summer of 2022 is very slight(death of a few specific senators )
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2021, 04:44:05 PM »

My best guess right now is that it will happen during mid-2022.
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2021, 05:36:05 PM »

I think Breyer but that’s it. None of the conservatives will leave the court voluntarily until after Democrats lose the senate. And they’re all probably young enough to make it to the next GOP-controlled senate.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2021, 05:57:09 PM »

Nope. Breyer's ego is going to pull a Ginsburg and make certain his seat is stolen by MoscowMitch and the GOP.

There is no such thing as a "stolen seat." Justices are not entitled to hold the seat for someone of their ideological mould in perpetuity. They are, however, constitutionally entitled to hold the seat until their death or retirement, and the President entitled to choose their replacement with Senate approval, whoever that may be.

Did Chase "steal" his seat from Chief Justice Taney?

Agreed. There are no stolen seats, and no limits on how many justices constitute the SC. Norms are dead, and you just do WTF you want, nevermind the plaintive whines of the opposition.
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2021, 06:01:07 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2021, 06:11:51 PM by R.P. McM »

Breyer, like Ginsburg, is putting their ambition and power over the good of the country, so more than likely not.

Agreed. If you still trust the Democratic establishment, or this current generation of geriatrics, I can't help you. A bunch of worthless, self-infatuated narcissists. Maybe Breyer will prove me wrong, but I have no faith whatsoever. Not after the Ginsburg debacle. I still can't get over what a horrible person Ruth proved to be. I guess we're just lucky she wasn't born a white Christian male in the South, because then she would've been spitting on integrationists over the Woolworth's counter. She was a feminist because she was born a woman, full stop. And even then, she cared about others far less than herself.
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2021, 06:06:08 PM »


People who have dedicated their lives to a job like Beyer has for so long, don't know what to do with themselves if they leave it. Plus, as you get older it's harder to change. So combine the two and you have a situation where I don't think he will be able to retire. It's not in his vocabulary. What would he do with himself if he quit and had all that time on his hands?

Or, he could surprise us all and pass the mantle to a younger Judge deserving of the position. That would be nice.

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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2021, 06:07:22 PM »

I have no confidence that Maverick McCrossift wouldn’t ruin any confirmation hearing to show what an independent free spirit she is and then claim that she won’t talk to anyone until her favorite yoga instructor.

So unless the Dems gain a Senate seat next year, probably not, regardless of Breyer.
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2021, 06:08:13 PM »

People who have dedicated their lives to a job like Beyer has for so long, don't know what to do with themselves if they leave it. Plus, as you get older it's harder to change. So combine the two and you have a situation where I don't think he will be able to retire. It's not in his vocabulary. What would he do with himself if he quit and had all that time on his hands?

Or, he could surprise us all and pass the mantle to a younger Judge deserving of the position. That would be nice.



He could take a visiting professorship at literally any legal faculty in the world.
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2021, 08:19:14 PM »

I still think it's more likely than not that Breyer retires next year.
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