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« Reply #1600 on: October 30, 2022, 04:58:44 PM »

Funnily enough, Bolsonaro is currently leading in the two bellwether states, Minas Gerais and Amazonas. If Lula does end up losing both states, it will be the first time they've voted for a loser since the redemocratization of Brazil in the 80's (assuming he wins the presidential election, of course, and that seems likely).

Lula really has to thank the people from the northeast for giving him some Saddam Hussein-like margins there.
Amazonas zoomed left in the late count in the first round, and is rapidly moving that way once again, so I expect Lula narrowly wins there in the end.

how much is left to count there?
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« Reply #1601 on: October 30, 2022, 04:59:26 PM »

I can't imagine Bolsonaro will accept the results if it stays anywhere near this close.

he won't. Hes made it clear if he loses its due to fraud.
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« Reply #1602 on: October 30, 2022, 05:00:17 PM »

Can someone who's more knowledgeable about Brazilian politics than me give a summary of how the Dobbs decision affected the results? I assume it had a big impact on PUT turnout, sure, but is it likely that moderate "Never Bolsonaro" suburban voters swung to Lula because of this? I'm working on a piece for CNN.
Pro-choice moderates swung behind Lula in the wake of the Supreme Court, filled with Bolsonaro appointees that were inclined to outlaw abortion. That's what it is.
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« Reply #1603 on: October 30, 2022, 05:00:53 PM »

Funnily enough, Bolsonaro is currently leading in the two bellwether states, Minas Gerais and Amazonas. If Lula does end up losing both states, it will be the first time they've voted for a loser since the redemocratization of Brazil in the 80's (assuming he wins the presidential election, of course, and that seems likely).

Lula really has to thank the people from the northeast for giving him some Saddam Hussein-like margins there.
Amazonas zoomed left in the late count in the first round, and is rapidly moving that way once again, so I expect Lula narrowly wins there in the end.

how much is left to count there?

Looks like about 8% to go according to Bloomberg. Bolsonaro leads by 1,000 votes.
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« Reply #1604 on: October 30, 2022, 05:00:59 PM »

Congratulations to President Elect Lula for saving Brazil from fascism and saving the lungs of the planet.

After spending time in jail wrong accused, this has to be satisfying. Plus between his six elections more votes have been casted for Lula than any other person in human history!
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« Reply #1605 on: October 30, 2022, 05:01:48 PM »

Eduardo Leite (PSDB) re-elected Governor of Rio Grande do Sul.
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« Reply #1606 on: October 30, 2022, 05:01:54 PM »

Eduardo Leite (PSDB) has been reelected in Rio Grande do Sul, defeating the Bolsonaro ally Onyx Lorenzoni (PL). Lorenzoni ran a pretty bad campaign all things considered, he said getting Covid was better than getting vaccineted, was homophobic, had a weird event in which he was unable to present a fiscal plan during a debate while being pressed to do so by Leite, etc.

57-43.

Leite is the first Rio Grande do Sul governor reelected in history.

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« Reply #1607 on: October 30, 2022, 05:02:34 PM »


Lula narrowly takes the lead the late reporting states should favor him from what I heard this may be it
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« Reply #1608 on: October 30, 2022, 05:02:56 PM »

Funnily enough, Bolsonaro is currently leading in the two bellwether states, Minas Gerais and Amazonas. If Lula does end up losing both states, it will be the first time they've voted for a loser since the redemocratization of Brazil in the 80's (assuming he wins the presidential election, of course, and that seems likely).

Lula really has to thank the people from the northeast for giving him some Saddam Hussein-like margins there.
Amazonas zoomed left in the late count in the first round, and is rapidly moving that way once again, so I expect Lula narrowly wins there in the end.

how much is left to count there?

Looks like about 8% to go according to Bloomberg. Bolsonaro leads by 1,000 votes.

with a margin like that it probably flips.
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« Reply #1609 on: October 30, 2022, 05:03:12 PM »

Funnily enough, Bolsonaro is currently leading in the two bellwether states, Minas Gerais and Amazonas. If Lula does end up losing both states, it will be the first time they've voted for a loser since the redemocratization of Brazil in the 80's (assuming he wins the presidential election, of course, and that seems likely).

Lula really has to thank the people from the northeast for giving him some Saddam Hussein-like margins there.
Amazonas zoomed left in the late count in the first round, and is rapidly moving that way once again, so I expect Lula narrowly wins there in the end.

how much is left to count there?

Looks like about 8% to go according to Bloomberg. Bolsonaro leads by 1,000 votes.

No. Lula leads by a few thousand votes
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« Reply #1610 on: October 30, 2022, 05:03:27 PM »

Funnily enough, Bolsonaro is currently leading in the two bellwether states, Minas Gerais and Amazonas. If Lula does end up losing both states, it will be the first time they've voted for a loser since the redemocratization of Brazil in the 80's (assuming he wins the presidential election, of course, and that seems likely).

Lula really has to thank the people from the northeast for giving him some Saddam Hussein-like margins there.
Amazonas zoomed left in the late count in the first round, and is rapidly moving that way once again, so I expect Lula narrowly wins there in the end.

how much is left to count there?

Looks like about 8% to go according to Bloomberg. Bolsonaro leads by 1,000 votes.

with a margin like that it probably flips.

Just did!
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« Reply #1611 on: October 30, 2022, 05:04:46 PM »

Congratulations to President Elect Lula for saving Brazil from fascism and saving the lungs of the planet.

After spending time in jail wrong accused, this has to be satisfying. Plus between his six elections more votes have been casted for Lula than any other person in human history!

hes not President elect yet.
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« Reply #1612 on: October 30, 2022, 05:04:54 PM »

How likely is a coup? These results are alarmingly close.
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« Reply #1613 on: October 30, 2022, 05:05:00 PM »

In Santa Catarina, Jorginho Mello (PL), Bolsonaro's ally, has won the gubernatorial election with 70% of the vote, defeating Décio Lima (PT). Décio wasn't even expected to get into the second round, his defeat was always expected.
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« Reply #1614 on: October 30, 2022, 05:05:28 PM »

How likely is a coup? These results are alarmingly close.

The military has said they will not get involved.
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« Reply #1615 on: October 30, 2022, 05:07:29 PM »

Lula: 52,948,645 (50.50%)
Bolsonaro: 51,908,090 (49.50%)
87.5% REPORTING

1 MILLION VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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« Reply #1616 on: October 30, 2022, 05:07:36 PM »

Lula's lead is over 1% and over 1M votes.
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« Reply #1617 on: October 30, 2022, 05:07:47 PM »


How about no.
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« Reply #1618 on: October 30, 2022, 05:08:24 PM »

no
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« Reply #1619 on: October 30, 2022, 05:08:35 PM »

Lula flipped Amazonas, now he is leading with 50.2% of the vote there. Honestly, Amazonas' status as a bellwether always felt a lot more like them getting lucky and voting for the winner than Minas'. I can see an argument for why Minas is a bellwether, I can't really see one for Amazonas, but I digress, seems like they'll keep their status.
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« Reply #1620 on: October 30, 2022, 05:09:03 PM »

The divide in Amazonas between Manaus and the rest of the state remains huge. Bolsonaro only won 3 municipalities out of about three dozen. However, he's at 61% in Manaus. It seems that about 90% of his votes in Amazonas are coming from Manaus alone.
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« Reply #1621 on: October 30, 2022, 05:10:21 PM »

cOnStItUtIoNaL RePuBlIc is political correct terminology for authoritarians too pussy to admit it in the open.
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« Reply #1622 on: October 30, 2022, 05:10:25 PM »

Almost 90% of the vote in. Lula’s lead is over 1% and a million votes.
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« Reply #1623 on: October 30, 2022, 05:11:03 PM »

The divide in Amazonas between Manaus and the rest of the state remains huge. Bolsonaro only won 3 municipalities out of about three dozen. However, he's at 61% in Manaus. It seems that about 90% of his votes in Amazonas are coming from Manaus alone.

Because Manaus is a city and the rest of the state is where people are having their ancestral homelands burned down.
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« Reply #1624 on: October 30, 2022, 05:11:27 PM »

Minas is getting closer again as well
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