PA 13

[TeePee4Prez]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Really?  Seems you guys decided to give up on PA 13.  I think Taubenberger would be a better choice, but who am I to say.

While I don't want any real resources committed to the 13th unless Schwartz was to get into major trouble, letting Raj back is a disgrace. If Taubenberger runs for Congress again and it's an Al vs. Raj primary, I'm all for Al. The very least we deserve here is a respectable candidate.

Yeah if you guys nominated that joke, your party would look even worse.  I would be pissed if I were a Republican and he was the nominee.  It would be like Cynthia McKinney running in PA 13 as a Dem.  Well, not that bad, but still I'd be pissed.  Raj seems to have made headway with younger women though! Means little. 

Yeah, well, the stories about him and the younger women don't help him that much.    Senior citizens in the district probably saw the guy as this young guy with this young campaign team running just for fun. That's probably a main reason why he couldn't reach 40% against Schwartz.

And that's what I saw it as.  A Taubenberger would add an element of seriousness to the GOP nominee and crack 40% in a normal year.  The elephant thing in Texas/Mexico was just a bad joke and likely did him in.  It seemed like he was all over the place.  He would have done well to stick with "Save the Northeast."

[Keystone Phil]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Really?  Seems you guys decided to give up on PA 13.  I think Taubenberger would be a better choice, but who am I to say.

While I don't want any real resources committed to the 13th unless Schwartz was to get into major trouble, letting Raj back is a disgrace. If Taubenberger runs for Congress again and it's an Al vs. Raj primary, I'm all for Al. The very least we deserve here is a respectable candidate.

Yeah if you guys nominated that joke, your party would look even worse.  I would be pissed if I were a Republican and he was the nominee.  It would be like Cynthia McKinney running in PA 13 as a Dem.  Well, not that bad, but still I'd be pissed.  Raj seems to have made headway with younger women though! Means little. 

Yeah, well, the stories about him and the younger women don't help him that much.    Senior citizens in the district probably saw the guy as this young guy with this young campaign team running just for fun. That's probably a main reason why he couldn't reach 40% against Schwartz.

And that's what I saw it as.  A Taubenberger would add an element of seriousness to the GOP nominee and crack 40% in a normal year.  The elephant thing in Texas/Mexico was just a bad joke and likely did him in.  It seemed like he was all over the place.  He would have done well to stick with "Save the Northeast."

The elephant stunt was bad but he was perceived as a joke before that. Remember the DUI and bar stories?

[TeePee4Prez]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Really?  Seems you guys decided to give up on PA 13.  I think Taubenberger would be a better choice, but who am I to say.

While I don't want any real resources committed to the 13th unless Schwartz was to get into major trouble, letting Raj back is a disgrace. If Taubenberger runs for Congress again and it's an Al vs. Raj primary, I'm all for Al. The very least we deserve here is a respectable candidate.

Yeah if you guys nominated that joke, your party would look even worse.  I would be pissed if I were a Republican and he was the nominee.  It would be like Cynthia McKinney running in PA 13 as a Dem.  Well, not that bad, but still I'd be pissed.  Raj seems to have made headway with younger women though! Means little. 

Yeah, well, the stories about him and the younger women don't help him that much.    Senior citizens in the district probably saw the guy as this young guy with this young campaign team running just for fun. That's probably a main reason why he couldn't reach 40% against Schwartz.

And that's what I saw it as.  A Taubenberger would add an element of seriousness to the GOP nominee and crack 40% in a normal year.  The elephant thing in Texas/Mexico was just a bad joke and likely did him in.  It seemed like he was all over the place.  He would have done well to stick with "Save the Northeast."

The elephant stunt was bad but he was perceived as a joke before that. Remember the DUI and bar stories?

Again, you guys should have had better.  I mean a woman who used to run an abortion clinic winning 69% in the Northeast Philly portion goes to show you how bad he truly was.  Not even Bob Borski got those numbers and he had more liberal areas.

[Keystone Phil]

Again, you guys should have had better.  I mean a woman who used to run an abortion clinic winning 69% in the Northeast Philly portion goes to show you how bad he truly was.  Not even Bob Borski got those numbers and he had more liberal areas.

We should at least force her to spend some money, instead of helping her with a huge Senate war chest (though we do want her as the nominee    ).

[TeePee4Prez]

Again, you guys should have had better.  I mean a woman who used to run an abortion clinic winning 69% in the Northeast Philly portion goes to show you how bad he truly was.  Not even Bob Borski got those numbers and he had more liberal areas.

We should at least force her to spend some money, instead of helping her with a huge Senate war chest (though we do want her as the nominee    ).

If the GOP nominee is not Specter then yeah I want her too!  (Not in a Cougar way of course.)

[nini2287]

How about Ellen Bard?  She could probably at least get in the low 40s.

[Keystone Phil]

How about Ellen Bard?  She could probably at least get in the low 40s.

Yet another situation where I wouldn't vote for the GOP nominee...

And, no, she won't run. She and Ally are basically the same. 2004 would have been the weirdest election if she was the nominee against Schwartz.

[TeePee4Prez]

How about Ellen Bard?  She could probably at least get in the low 40s.

She would actually have my vote over Bob Casey in a theoretical Senate race.  But Allyson's doing a good job.  No need to switch or primary her.

[nini2287]

How about Ellen Bard?  She could probably at least get in the low 40s.

She would actually have my vote over Bob Casey in a theoretical Senate race.  But Allyson's doing a good job.  No need to switch or primary her.

She's still a Republican (as far as I know).

[Keystone Phil]

How about Ellen Bard?  She could probably at least get in the low 40s.

She would actually have my vote over Bob Casey in a theoretical Senate race.  But Allyson's doing a good job.  No need to switch or primary her.

She's still a Republican (as far as I know).

Yeah...I don't know what Flyers is talking about.

[TeePee4Prez]

THIS IS THE THREAD THAT DOESN'T END. AND IT GOES ON AND ON MY FRIENDS.  SOME PEOPLE STARTED SINGING IT NOT KNOWING WHAT IS WAS. LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!!

[Keystone Phil]

Don't worry. There isn't much to this race but we did get some interesting news today - Schwartz may get primary from anti war activists -  http://www.northeasttimes.com/index.html

Schwartz isn't "Pro war" but I guess she isn't doing enough for some to end the war. She'd easily beat whoever they run. The woman has millions. It would be fun to watch though. As for this Marina Kats, she thought about running last time but never officially jumped into the race. The poor woman probably would get to about 30% against Schwartz in the General in a Presidential election year.

[Democratic Hawk]

How has PA 13 managed to warrant a discussion running into its 96th page?

Dave

[MarkWarner08]

Don't worry. There isn't much to this race but we did get some interesting news today - Schwartz may get primary from anti war activists -  http://www.northeasttimes.com/index.html

Schwartz isn't "Pro war" but I guess she isn't doing enough for some to end the war. She'd easily beat whoever they run. The woman has millions. It would be fun to watch though. As for this Marina Kats, she thought about running last time but never officially jumped into the race. The poor woman probably would get to about 30% against Schwartz in the General in a Presidential election year.

Would the GOP nominate her?

[Keystone Phil]

Don't worry. There isn't much to this race but we did get some interesting news today - Schwartz may get primary from anti war activists -  http://www.northeasttimes.com/index.html

Schwartz isn't "Pro war" but I guess she isn't doing enough for some to end the war. She'd easily beat whoever they run. The woman has millions. It would be fun to watch though. As for this Marina Kats, she thought about running last time but never officially jumped into the race. The poor woman probably would get to about 30% against Schwartz in the General in a Presidential election year.

Would the GOP nominate her?

We don't have anyone else so...

How has PA 13 managed to warrant a discussion running into its 96th page?

Dave

We're passionate about our politics and have some very interesting races. 

[Democratic Hawk]

How has PA 13 managed to warrant a discussion running into its 96th page?

Dave

We're passionate about our politics and have some very interesting races. 

I'll drink to that

[TeePee4Prez]

I think PA 13 could flip back in a 1994 type scenario, 5 Northeast Philly cops getting killed AND the Republican is a pro-life Giuliani type who makes a huge issue out of the 5 cops getting killed.  Yeah, that sounds about right.  Otherwise, seat stays Dem. 

[Keystone Phil]

I think PA 13 could flip back in a 1994 type scenario, 5 Northeast Philly cops getting killed AND the Republican is a pro-life Giuliani type who makes a huge issue out of the 5 cops getting killed.  Yeah, that sounds about right.  Otherwise, seat stays Dem. 

Oh sure, it could happen but it's not likely at all.

[Mr.Phips]

Its surprising that as recently as 1992, the though of a Democrat winning PA-13 was absurd.  Now its a safely Democratic district.  It's all part of the Democratic trend in the metro Philadelphia area.  I expect PA-06, PA-07, and PA-08 to look the same way in ten years. 

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Maybe if Joe Hoeffel was running for election there....

[Keystone Phil]

Its surprising that as recently as 1992, the though of a Democrat winning PA-13 was absurd.  Now its a safely Democratic district.  It's all part of the Democratic trend in the metro Philadelphia area.  I expect PA-06, PA-07, and PA-08 to look the same way in ten years. 

It's was quite different in 1992 because it was all Montco. Now it is split between Montco and NE Philly.

Maybe if Joe Hoeffel was running for election there....

Sadly, there could be an opening for that joke to return. After losing his Senate race, he ran for Lt. Governor for about two days and is now serving (again) as a Montgomery county Commissioner. When the seat opens up in 2010 (when Schwartz runs for the Senate), look for him to consider a run unless he is really enjoying his time as Vice Chair of the Board.

[Mr.Phips]

Its surprising that as recently as 1992, the though of a Democrat winning PA-13 was absurd.  Now its a safely Democratic district.  It's all part of the Democratic trend in the metro Philadelphia area.  I expect PA-06, PA-07, and PA-08 to look the same way in ten years. 

It's was quite different in 1992 because it was all Montco. Now it is split between Montco and NE Philly.

It was pretty much the same.  Maybe a point or two more Republican when it was all Montgomery.

[Keystone Phil]

Its surprising that as recently as 1992, the though of a Democrat winning PA-13 was absurd.  Now its a safely Democratic district.  It's all part of the Democratic trend in the metro Philadelphia area.  I expect PA-06, PA-07, and PA-08 to look the same way in ten years. 

It's was quite different in 1992 because it was all Montco. Now it is split between Montco and NE Philly.

It was pretty much the same.  Maybe a point or two more Republican when it was all Montgomery.

I don't think that's true. Do you have any numbers that we can compare?

[bullmoose88]

Its surprising that as recently as 1992, the though of a Democrat winning PA-13 was absurd.  Now its a safely Democratic district.  It's all part of the Democratic trend in the metro Philadelphia area.  I expect PA-06, PA-07, and PA-08 to look the same way in ten years. 

It's was quite different in 1992 because it was all Montco. Now it is split between Montco and NE Philly.

It was pretty much the same.  Maybe a point or two more Republican when it was all Montgomery.

Montgomery was probably much more Republican in 1992...

[Mr.Phips]

Its surprising that as recently as 1992, the though of a Democrat winning PA-13 was absurd.  Now its a safely Democratic district.  It's all part of the Democratic trend in the metro Philadelphia area.  I expect PA-06, PA-07, and PA-08 to look the same way in ten years. 

It's was quite different in 1992 because it was all Montco. Now it is split between Montco and NE Philly.

It was pretty much the same.  Maybe a point or two more Republican when it was all Montgomery.

I don't think that's true. Do you have any numbers that we can compare?

Look at the Presidential numbers in 2000 in the post 1991 PA-13 and the post 2001 PA-13.  In 2000, Gore carried the former 54%-43%, yet he carried the latter 56%-42%.  The district was made at least a point more Democratic and probably more in the 2001 redistricting.