Cheney sees cratering support in House GOP as McCarthy says she isn’t ‘carrying out the message’

[GeorgiaModerate]

LOL:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1389980708823658496

[Ferguson97]

This isn't about Trump; if it was, Cheney would have been out shortly out after being one of only ten Republicans to vote in support of his second impeachment.  The issue with Cheney is that she has nicer things to say about Biden and the Democrats than she does her own party.  You can believe her criticisms are valid, but the GOP cannot deliver a unified opposition message as long as Cheney is throwing bombs from the inside.  Forcing her out is the only logical conclusion to what she has brought upon herself. 

They're cancelling her because of her conservative beliefs.

This, but unironically.  Cheney is much more conservative than Stefanik according to the Heritage Foundation rankings, for example.  It's mind-curdling to watch partisan Democrats come to the defense of Cheney in this instance.

You have to be deliberately misleading to try and frame this as “defending Cheney”.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

This isn't about Trump; if it was, Cheney would have been out shortly out after being one of only ten Republicans to vote in support of his second impeachment.  The issue with Cheney is that she has nicer things to say about Biden and the Democrats than she does her own party.  You can believe her criticisms are valid, but the GOP cannot deliver a unified opposition message as long as Cheney is throwing bombs from the inside.  Forcing her out is the only logical conclusion to what she has brought upon herself. 

"nicer things to say about Biden"

I.e.: "Biden is actually President"

"throwing bombs from the inside"

I.e. "the election wasn't rigged" and "anyone claiming it was rigged is lying".

Disingenuous re-framing doesn't make the GQP sane.

[President Johnson]

The God Emperor gave Stefanik in his "COMPLETE and TOTAL endorsement" in his new so called "desk":

Donald J. Trump

11:45am May 5, 2021

Liz Cheney is a warmongering fool who has no business in Republican Party Leadership. We want leaders who believe in the Make America Great Again movement, and prioritize the values of America First. Elise Stefanik is a far superior choice, and she has my COMPLETE and TOTAL endorsement for GOP Conference Chair. Elise is a tough and smart communicator!

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-s9g4x7x8zk/


Also continues the insult her and blames Mitch for losing the Georgia seats:

Donald J. Trump

9:51am May 5, 2021

Warmonger Liz Cheney, who has virtually no support left in the Great State of Wyoming, continues to unknowingly and foolishly say that there was no Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election when in fact, the evidence, including no Legislative approvals as demanded by the U.S. Constitution, shows the exact opposite. Had Mike Pence referred the information on six states (only need two) back to State Legislatures, and had gutless and clueless MINORITY Leader Mitch McConnell (he blew two seats in Georgia that should have never been lost) fought to expose all of the corruption that was presented at the time, with more found since, we would have had a far different Presidential result, and our Country would not be turning into a socialist nightmare! Never give up!

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-w5tycmjzr6/

[KaiserDave]

No matter how you personally feel about Liz Cheney, everyone should be appalled at what is happening right now. She's being ousted for simply telling the truth.

It's unfortunate that that is what is taking her out, but as she long as she is being taken out I am happy.

Bye bye!

[7,052,770]

No matter how you personally feel about Liz Cheney, everyone should be appalled at what is happening right now. She's being ousted for simply telling the truth.

It's unfortunate that that is what is taking her out, but as she long as she is being taken out I am happy.

Bye bye!

I shed no tear for her, but getting a Trump lackey in Stefanik who fundamentally opposes democracy is almost certainly not going to be an improvement.

[KaiserDave]

No matter how you personally feel about Liz Cheney, everyone should be appalled at what is happening right now. She's being ousted for simply telling the truth.

It's unfortunate that that is what is taking her out, but as she long as she is being taken out I am happy.

Bye bye!

I shed no tear for her, but getting a Trump lackey in Stefanik who fundamentally opposes democracy is almost certainly not going to be an improvement.

It's not an improvement, but hard to be worse. So....

[Pink Panther]

That was a quick downfall. She didn't deserve the spot in the first place, but she probably didn't deserve this. She's still is a warmonger, though.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

No matter how you personally feel about Liz Cheney, everyone should be appalled at what is happening right now. She's being ousted for simply telling the truth.

It's unfortunate that that is what is taking her out, but as she long as she is being taken out I am happy.

Bye bye!

Bye felicia

[President Johnson]

She has to regret not running for senate last year. She would have been elected to 2026 when nobody will remember an impeachment vote.

[Hermit For Peace]

She's in the wrong party. Maybe she should just go write a book or run a company. I think she'd be happier.

The present GOP is poisoned with trump kooties, and nothing can seem to penetrate them. Nothing that is real or valuable anyway.

[Del Tachi]

She's in the wrong party.

Are you saying you want her in the Democratic Party?  lmao

That partisan Democrats would welcome Liz Cheney with open arms shows how reflexively animated they are by (anti-) Trumpism   

[Hermit For Peace]

I would also like to put in a snort about the fact that she is a female. It's easier to pound on females than it is on males. Am I wrong?

Liz has many things going against her right now, and her gender is one of the big stumbling blocks, in my opinion. Is that the way it's supposed to be? No, but that's reality.

[Hermit For Peace]

She's in the wrong party.

Are you saying you want her in the Democratic Party?  lmao

That partisan Democrats would welcome Liz Cheney with open arms shows how reflexively animated they are by (anti-) Trumpism   

She doesn't belong anywhere right now. See my post. She needs to go write a book or run a company. Get out of politics for now. She's a hot potato.

[Anti-Trump Truth Socialite JD Vance Enjoying Juror]

She's in the wrong party.

Are you saying you want her in the Democratic Party?  lmao

That partisan Democrats would welcome Liz Cheney with open arms shows how reflexively animated they are by (anti-) Trumpism   

Yes clearly “The Democrats” would welcome Liz Cheney with open arms. After all, one guy on the Internet said it. He speaks for literally all of us.

[Del Tachi]

She's in the wrong party.

Are you saying you want her in the Democratic Party?  lmao

That partisan Democrats would welcome Liz Cheney with open arms shows how reflexively animated they are by (anti-) Trumpism   

Yes clearly “The Democrats” would welcome Liz Cheney with open arms. After all, one guy on the Internet said it. He speaks for literally all of us.

The New York Times has run no less than three profiles on Liz Cheney in the past eight weeks, including a story that ran this morning under this editorializing headline: "House Republicans Have Had Enough of Liz Cheney's Truth-Telling."  That's some pretty positive framing to be coming from the all-liberal-all-the-time NYT, given Cheney's leading role in actually orchestrating and passing Republicans' legislative agenda during Trump's time in office (she turned on him only once he was a lame duck.)

As has been proven these past six years, the only criterion for becoming a hero to Democrats is superficially rebuffing Trump's most bafoonish and offensive impulses.  Democrats won slim majorities in 2018 and 2020 with campaigns that amounted to nothing more serious than simple character assassination, and they have the contorted messaging on immigration, race/gender and taxes to show for it.  Y'all are standing around applauding Liz Cheney because what she represents (i.e., vacuous overtures against Trump and Trumpism) is the only animating principle you have left.

[Alcibiades]

She's in the wrong party.

Are you saying you want her in the Democratic Party?  lmao

That partisan Democrats would welcome Liz Cheney with open arms shows how reflexively animated they are by (anti-) Trumpism   

Yes clearly “The Democrats” would welcome Liz Cheney with open arms. After all, one guy on the Internet said it. He speaks for literally all of us.

The New York Times has run no less than three profiles on Liz Cheney in the past eight weeks, including a story that ran this morning under this editorializing headline: "House Republicans Have Had Enough of Liz Cheney's Truth-Telling."  That's some pretty positive framing to be coming from the all-liberal-all-the-time NYT, given Cheney's leading role in actually orchestrating and passing Republicans' legislative agenda during Trump's time in office (she turned on him only once he was a lame duck.)

As has been proven these past six years, the only criterion for becoming a hero to Democrats is superficially rebuffing Trump's most bafoonish and offensive impulses.  Democrats won slim majorities in 2018 and 2020 with campaigns that amounted to nothing more serious than simple character assassination, and they have the contorted messaging on immigration, race/gender and taxes to show for it.  Y'all are standing around applauding Liz Cheney because what she represents (i.e., vacuous overtures against Trump and Trumpism) is the only animating principle you have left.

Seriously? 2018 was an issue election, that issue being healthcare, on which the Dems resoundingly won the electorate to their position.

[7,052,770]

Y'all are standing around applauding Liz Cheney because what she represents (i.e., vacuous overtures against Trump and Trumpism) is the only animating principle you have left.

You realize (of course you do) that you can disagree with someone on most political issues, but still agree with him/her on a very important issue like "The 2020 election was unequivocally NOT stolen and it is an absolute disgrace for Republican officials to knowingly lie and tell the base that it was."

I don't think highly of Cheney generally, but I do respect that she doesn't literally want to overthrow democracy like most of the rest of Republicans in Congress do, so she deserves credit for that. It's sad that we've devolved to a point where we have to celebrate Republicans for clearing that low bar, but it's where we are.

[Hermit For Peace]

The New York Times has run no less than three profiles on Liz Cheney in the past eight weeks, including a story that ran this morning under this editorializing headline: "House Republicans Have Had Enough of Liz Cheney's Truth-Telling."  That's some pretty positive framing to be coming from the all-liberal-all-the-time NYT, given Cheney's leading role in actually orchestrating and passing Republicans' legislative agenda during Trump's time in office (she turned on him only once he was a lame duck.)

As has been proven these past six years, the only criterion for becoming a hero to Democrats is superficially rebuffing Trump's most bafoonish and offensive impulses.  Democrats won slim majorities in 2018 and 2020 with campaigns that amounted to nothing more serious than simple character assassination, and they have the contorted messaging on immigration, race/gender and taxes to show for it.  Y'all are standing around applauding Liz Cheney because what she represents (i.e., vacuous overtures against Trump and Trumpism) is the only animating principle you have left.

Thank you for posting that. Gave me such fun giggles.

[Pink Panther]

She has to regret not running for senate last year. She would have been elected to 2026 when nobody will remember an impeachment vote.

Though I agree with you she deeply regrets not running for Senate, I don't think Trump and his base will forget the impeachment vote by 2026.

[Alcibiades]

I completely get why Trump was immune from suffering consequences for his antidemocratic and norm-busting behaviour, but I still find it quite odd that his corruption and swampiness never hurt him much. I suppose the answer is that his voters didn’t actually care about these issues in and of themselves. Weird, because that type of behaviour is pretty much the most blatant example of pissing on the electorate possible.

[DaleCooper]

This isn't about Trump; if it was, Cheney would have been out shortly out after being one of only ten Republicans to vote in support of his second impeachment.  The issue with Cheney is that she has nicer things to say about Biden and the Democrats than she does her own party.  You can believe her criticisms are valid, but the GOP cannot deliver a unified opposition message as long as Cheney is throwing bombs from the inside.  Forcing her out is the only logical conclusion to what she has brought upon herself. 

I think this is a fair point and it really illustrates the awkward position that the Republican Party is in. They want and need unity, but they're taking a huge risk by launching punitive measures against people like Cheney, who can easily frame this as an issue that's related to her rejection of Trump. Getting her out of leadership now is smarter than removing her in the immediate aftermath of the insurrection, but I still think that Republicans are underestimating how dangerous it is for them to keep re-litigating their 2020 defeat rather than present their platform as a coherent alternative to the current administration. It sends the message that the GOP is wasting energy on what, to the vast majority of Americans, is just irrelevant inter-party drama and it also sends the message that being a Trump devotee is a prerequisite for being a Republican. Obviously in the grand scheme of things this Liz Cheney conflict isn't taking up much time, but public perception is everything.

[AncestralDemocrat.]

Supposedly one of the republicans who voted to impeach has complained to the leadership about Cheney. lmao.

She's toast.

[Calthrina950]

I completely get why Trump was immune from suffering consequences for his antidemocratic and norm-busting behaviour, but I still find it quite odd that his corruption and swampiness never hurt him much. I suppose the answer is that his voters didn’t actually care about these issues in and of themselves. Weird, because that type of behaviour is pretty much the most blatant example of pissing on the electorate possible.

The Republican base seems to care about those issues when they concern Democrats and those Republicans who they denounce as "RINOs", "Never Trumpers", or as part of the establishment. They don't care about those issues when they affect Trump, his family, his allies, and Republicans who identify themselves as ardent Trumpists. If anyone in those groups is implicated, then it becomes a "vast conspiracy" engineered by the media, the Democrats, and the Deep State.

However, at this point it is clear that most Republicans have decided to write away the events of January 6, and pretend that they never happened.

[gerritcole]

I’m surprised how quickly this is taking place, knives have been sharpened for a while. I think this is the beginning of the end of her political career, she’s gonna lose the primary. Once you’re the darling of the online left an NYT it’s a wrap