PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[morgieb]

Who the f**k calls their kid Coleman anyway?

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Who the f**k calls their kid Coleman anyway?

When you take being from a coal mining area too seriously

[Calthrina950]

Who the f**k calls their kid Coleman anyway?

The long-time Democratic Mayor of Detroit in the late 20th century was named Coleman, and he was black.

[Orwell]

https://twitter.com/ColemanLamb/status/1487944023167967236

We now have Lamb's brother attacking one of PA's premier labor economists, and someone who has been instrumental in the nationwide fight to raise the minimum wage.

Occasionally, the mask slips. My apologies to Manchin - at least him and his thugs don't regularly attack labor economists as political hacks.

Maybe he had a moral right to write this because of a dirty, lying attack on his brother, didn't you think about it?

https://twitter.com/price_laborecon/status/1487904655359287299?t=ar72s8Pr_pptQcI...

I thought this was the former Cavs player

[Roll Roons]

Arkoosh officially out:
https://twitter.com/JuliaTerruso/status/1489626089240633353

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Arkoosh officially out:
https://twitter.com/JuliaTerruso/status/1489626089240633353

Who's the likeliest beneficiary from this?

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Arkoosh officially out:
https://twitter.com/JuliaTerruso/status/1489626089240633353

Who's the likeliest beneficiary from this?

Kenyatta most likely, since she was bound to pry off some of his support from the Philly collar counties. Pennsylvanians vote very geographically in our primaries. However, she wasn't really enjoying much support to begin with so the benefit would be minimal anyway.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Arkoosh officially out:
https://twitter.com/JuliaTerruso/status/1489626089240633353

Who's the likeliest beneficiary from this?

Kenyatta most likely, since she was bound to pry off some of his support from the Philly collar counties. Pennsylvanians vote very geographically in our primaries. However, she wasn't really enjoying much support to begin with so the benefit would be minimal anyway.

Ah. Thanks for the rundown.
Gun to head, if you have to guess the chance Kenyetta wins this, what was it before these news, and after?

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Arkoosh officially out:
https://twitter.com/JuliaTerruso/status/1489626089240633353

Who's the likeliest beneficiary from this?

Kenyatta most likely, since she was bound to pry off some of his support from the Philly collar counties. Pennsylvanians vote very geographically in our primaries. However, she wasn't really enjoying much support to begin with so the benefit would be minimal anyway.

Ah. Thanks for the rundown.
Gun to head, if you have to guess the chance Kenyetta wins this, what was it before these news, and after?

Not great -> Slightly less not great, still not great

Kenyatta is a dark horse but he's not raising nearly as much money as Lamb or Fetterman. While it's true that Lamb and Fetterman may split the WEPA vote, it may not be enough to truly put Kenyatta over the top. I could very easily see Lamb or Fetterman doing just well enough in NEPA and Central PA to put them over the top.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Likely D with Fetterman anyways with Josh Shapiro on the ballot, Rs think that just because the Environment the state is gonna split it's votes between Senate and Gov, that is silly and Barnes on every issue has the same exact belief as Cory Booker and Raphael Warnock and Johnson is an Insurrectionists, the Rs want to believe that too is Safe R, silliness

Both Toomey and Johnson won with only 20o K votes WI and PA are Lean Takeovers Fetterman was leading 44)42 and Barnes was tied 47)47

How is winning by 20o K votes not 2M like Grassley safe R

If Toomey thought the seat was safe R he would have run but Bloomberg spent millions on his race with McGinty because Toomey support gun control

[morgieb]

Who the f**k calls their kid Coleman anyway?

The long-time Democratic Mayor of Detroit in the late 20th century was named Coleman, and he was black.

A white person having it sounds like a uber-posh name.

[Calthrina950]

Who the f**k calls their kid Coleman anyway?

The long-time Democratic Mayor of Detroit in the late 20th century was named Coleman, and he was black.

A white person having it sounds like a uber-posh name.

Names as a whole are an interesting subject. I've said before that blacks are stereotyped or discriminated against for having "ethnic" or "Afro-centric" names, but the names that many whites have are odd as well. Names like Caitlin, Jacen, Kaylee, Kylie, and so on, and variants thereof, have always been jarring to me.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

I mean, I agree that Fetterman has been kind of a political opportunist, but calling him "another Sinema"() because he "ditched Bernie in '20"() is just an absolutely smooth brain take.

Especially pulling for Kenyatta, who was one of Biden's earliest and most vocal supporters in PA...

What is that even in reference to?
Also Fetterman dropped two ads this morning I think these are the first he's released since he announced his run 11 months ago. They're pretty strong and impressive IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuw-VbTqF14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fG_dyKqb-g&ab_channel=JohnFetterman

I think it's a reference to Fetterman endorsing Bernie in 2016 but not 2020.

[Comrade Funk]

Fetterman or bust
https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1491432217008275457
https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1334934555262906368
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1460262958974611457

[Morning in Atlas]

F*** around and find out.

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Well, SCoPA announced today that the primaries are essentially on hold until the congressional maps are finalized, so there's a bit more time for Malcolm to get his name out and garner more support. However, if it comes down to it, I will vote strategically for Fetterman to deny Lamb the nomination. There's just too much at stake for this guy to win the primary. As I always say in posts like these, I will still support Lamb in the general if he wins the primary, but I do not want him to win the primary. The PAC money, the MORE Act vote, his hostility towards progressive causes...it all does not sit well with me.

[Morning in Atlas]

Arkoosh officially out:
https://twitter.com/JuliaTerruso/status/1489626089240633353

Very glad that I can finally call the Arkoosh contingent on this forum Lamb simps now.

[S019]

I still don't understand why this primary inspires such vitriol, I support Lamb because I think he'd be likelier to win the general election, but it seems like so much tension over a race that Democrats are obviously underdogs in given the national environment. Both Lamb and Fetterman need an improvement in the national environment to be able to win, both of them will face the same hostile headwinds and it'll be an uphill battle for either. I'm also not convinced that Republican candidate quality is as bad as many think it is, or that "candidate quality" will particularly matter, I think it's fair to call this Tilt/Lean R for now.

[Roll Roons]

Trafalgar dropping a GOP primary poll today...

[Morning in Atlas]

https://twitter.com/ConorLambPA/status/1500259991483256834?t=iynNFdbY28yUc1ezT4h...

Cringe. Matt Cartwright finally takes an L.

[wbrocks67]

I still don't understand why this primary inspires such vitriol, I support Lamb because I think he'd be likelier to win the general election, but it seems like so much tension over a race that Democrats are obviously underdogs in given the national environment. Both Lamb and Fetterman need an improvement in the national environment to be able to win, both of them will face the same hostile headwinds and it'll be an uphill battle for either. I'm also not convinced that Republican candidate quality is as bad as many think it is, or that "candidate quality" will particularly matter, I think it's fair to call this Tilt/Lean R for now.

For whatever reason, people are using it as yet another 2016 proxy with Fetterman being the "liberal hero" and Lamb being the "corporate shill"..... it's exhausting

[TML]

https://twitter.com/ConorLambPA/status/1500259991483256834?t=iynNFdbY28yUc1ezT4h...

Cringe. Matt Cartwright finally takes an L.

Remember that RootsAction pointed out that Cartwright has not supported the Green New Deal, has supported increased military spending, and did not support the Paycheck Recovery Act despite being a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, so it has listed him in the "Dishonorable Mention" section of its PINO (Progressives in Name Only) report.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

https://twitter.com/ConorLambPA/status/1500259991483256834?t=iynNFdbY28yUc1ezT4h...

Cringe. Matt Cartwright finally takes an L.

Remember that RootsAction pointed out that Cartwright has not supported the Green New Deal, has supported increased military spending, and did not support the Paycheck Recovery Act despite being a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, so it has listed him in the "Dishonorable Mention" section of its PINO (Progressives in Name Only) report.

I mean, RootsAction is an aggressively anti-cop group of clowns who think Democrats would win more elections if we started running on defunding the police   They’re hardly a credible source for this sort of thing.  The fact they consider Cartwright a progressive in name only simply shows that they have no idea what they are talking about.

[Morning in Atlas]

I have not heard of RootsAction before this post and will probably forget who they are after today.

[wbrocks67]

Confusing as to why Fetterman though is not even 100% confirmed for the debate.

https://twitter.com/JonathanTamari/status/1500857342627303428