2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[NOVA Green]

Only 41% of Precincts reporting out of Milwaukee Co WI.

Racine Co, WI looks like flip zone... Brown County might well flip once the EVs come in.

Kenosha Co. looks weird...

Wisconsin looks like a likely flip regardless of whatever "facts" y'all might see on the Rightwing news media.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

CBS projects VA for Biden.

That it took this long to definitively project Virginia is certainly not good news for Biden. It appears that he is going to win the state by an underwhelming margin at this point, perhaps slightly less than Northam's margin of victory in 2017. This was a state where it was thought Democrats would win by double digits. And Bob Good won in VA-05, so another disappointment for Democrats in the House.

I'm not sure I would read that much into it. It could be more that they are very cautious about making calls.

Fox has been less cautious, but still has 7 states uncalled.

When did Fox call VA for Biden?

[JGibson]

AP just called Arizona for Biden. 2nd flip of the night for him.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

What universe are you guys living in lol

the two dem that AZ just elected are Mark Kelly and Kristen Sinema
they are the furthest from Berinie as you possibly can get

Funny enough Simema was once a Green party member.

[Alben Barkley]

CNN just said at least 1.4 million mail in ballots left to count in PA. This will be a while...

If MI and WI are wrapped up earlier plus Biden wins GA, it might not matter so much.

[tjstarling]

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.

Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  

Who exactly?

Is that a serious question?  Do you even follow politics?

Absolutely. Answer the question and I’ll offer a rebuttal if I disagree. Isn’t that how a forum discussion works?

Well you clearly have no idea how many people who had given up on politics were inspired by Bernie.  I know a lot of them actually.  Nah, I think I'll go to sleep, because you are obviously not discussing in good faith.  Bye now.

Just because you know a handful of them doesn’t mean that’s a representative sample of anything at all. You seem to know less about politics than you accused me of knowing. Clearly are Internet and social media bubbles are not representative of the voters, as these results clearly illustrate. Why didn’t these people show up for him in the primaries in mass numbers if he was sooooo inspiring? That’s the primary question you didn’t ask yourself. Frankly any discussion around Bernie is irrelevant at this point.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Didn't Fox say earlier that Biden is a favourite in Wisconsin?

Didn’t they say earlier that he was a favorite in Florida and Ohio?

[Calthrina950]

CBS projects VA for Biden.

That it took this long to definitively project Virginia is certainly not good news for Biden. It appears that he is going to win the state by an underwhelming margin at this point, perhaps slightly less than Northam's margin of victory in 2017. This was a state where it was thought Democrats would win by double digits. And Bob Good won in VA-05, so another disappointment for Democrats in the House.

I'm not sure I would read that much into it. It could be more that they are very cautious about making calls.

You're right, but it's still something of concern to me. Back in 2018, for example, Tim Kaine was projected as the winner in Virginia as soon as the polls closed.

[GoTfan]

According to my map here on my screen, Biden only has one path left:

WI + GA

Assuming:

Biden already has AZ, NV, ME
Trump already has PA, NC, MI

With so many early ballots to be counted, and with Biden only 120,000 behind in each state, there is a big chance for Biden to steal this at the bell.

Trump will have a meltdown unless this count gets organised quickly tomorrow.

Trump doesnt have PA and MI yet.

Yes he does

[lfromnj]

CBS projects VA for Biden.

That it took this long to definitively project Virginia is certainly not good news for Biden. It appears that he is going to win the state by an underwhelming margin at this point, perhaps slightly less than Northam's margin of victory in 2017. This was a state where it was thought Democrats would win by double digits. And Bob Good won in VA-05, so another disappointment for Democrats in the House.

VA05th was always Likely R.

Anyway Biden did win VA beach by 9 points, looks like it will follow Colorado.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

AP just called Arizona for Biden. 2nd flip of the night for him.

If you count NE-02, OK.

[Kuumo]

Yeah it’s time to push left on fiscal issues and right on social issues.

Ew no. You really think that's what cost us in Fla and TX?

Considering you see 60 point swings in poor rural Tejano counties?

Yes lol.

I think it's pretty clear that left on economics is bad with Latinos.

*Cubanos. I think it's inconclusive whether it hurts with Chicanos and Puerto Ricans.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

[GoTfan]

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

No there is not

[ꙮ]

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

The remaining vote in PA is mostly mail in votes from Philadelphia, I've got no problem believing that Biden could win that 2:1.

[Calthrina950]

CBS projects VA for Biden.

That it took this long to definitively project Virginia is certainly not good news for Biden. It appears that he is going to win the state by an underwhelming margin at this point, perhaps slightly less than Northam's margin of victory in 2017. This was a state where it was thought Democrats would win by double digits. And Bob Good won in VA-05, so another disappointment for Democrats in the House.

VA05th was always Likely R.

Anyway Biden did win VA beach by 9 points, looks like it will follow Colorado.

You're right, but Democrats had been hopeful that they could score an upset there.

[lfromnj]

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.

Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  

Exactly, Bernie would've won Arizona very handily. This is just mind-numbing right now.

What universe are you guys living in lol

the two dem that AZ just elected are Mark Kelly and Kristen Sinema
they are the furthest from Berinie as you possibly can get

Arizona is a state where Democrats can get 45% of the white vote. Its honestly closer to Colorado.

[Real Texan Politics]

AP called Arizona for Biden.

[Alben Barkley]

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

Since basically all the rural and same day vote is in, most of the remaining vote is mail ballots in Democratic areas. So yes, he can do that.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Yeah it’s time to push left on fiscal issues and right on social issues.

Ew no. You really think that's what cost us in Fla and TX?

Considering you see 60 point swings in poor rural Tejano counties?

Yes lol.

I think it's pretty clear that left on economics is bad with Latinos.

*Cubanos. I think it's inconclusive whether it hurts with Chicanos and Puerto Ricans.

Perhaps. Although I'd speculate that more are likely to vote R on small business issues than on Democrats not hating transgender people or whatever.

[Bootes Void]

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

Earlier they were saying he was winning VBM 3 to 1,4 to 1 Dem

[Hassan 2022]

Yeah it’s time to push left on fiscal issues and right on social issues.

Ew no. You really think that's what cost us in Fla and TX?

Considering you see 60 point swings in poor rural Tejano counties?

Yes lol.

I think it's pretty clear that left on economics is bad with Latinos.

*Cubanos. I think it's inconclusive whether it hurts with Chicanos and Puerto Ricans.

I think Bernie's wins among Latinos in CA and the broader Southwest and decent showings in heavily Latino cities on the East Coast like Lawrence and Chelsea, MA show that left economics aren't necessarily unpopular among non-Cuban and non-Venezuelan Latinos.

[roxas11]

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.

Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  

Exactly, Bernie would've won Arizona very handily. This is just mind-numbing right now.

What universe are you guys living in lol

the two dem that AZ just elected are Mark Kelly and Kristen Sinema
they are the furthest from Berinie as you possibly can get

Berinie?  You don't even know what his name is, and you expect us to take you seriously?

Those were the Democrats that were on the ballot, and thy voted for them.  What makes you think they wouldn't have voted for another Democrat.  Stop trolling now.

So you mock me for making an honest mistake yet you yourself also misspelled the word "they"

[politics_king]

What a headache this is.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

AP called Arizona for Biden.

Finally.