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« Reply #4875 on: November 04, 2020, 02:50:10 AM »

Without being abused can someone give me a rational case for why that stupid needle still favours Biden in Georgia?
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« Reply #4876 on: November 04, 2020, 02:50:14 AM »


They're slow.
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« Reply #4877 on: November 04, 2020, 02:50:26 AM »

Yeah it’s time to push left on fiscal issues and right on social issues.

Ew no. You really think that's what cost us in Fla and TX?

TX definitely
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« Reply #4878 on: November 04, 2020, 02:50:31 AM »

Without being abused can someone give me a rational case for why that stupid needle still favours Biden in Georgia?

The outstanding vote is in Atlanta and heavily favors Biden.
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« Reply #4879 on: November 04, 2020, 02:50:38 AM »

According to my map here on my screen, Biden only has one path left:

WI + GA

Assuming:

Biden already has AZ, NV, ME, VA
Trump already has PA, NC, MI

With so many early ballots to be counted, and with Biden only 120,000 behind in each state, there is a big chance for Biden to steal this at the bell.

Trump will have a meltdown regardless.
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« Reply #4880 on: November 04, 2020, 02:50:55 AM »

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.


Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  
Who exactly?

Is that a serious question?  Do you even follow politics?
Absolutely. Answer the question and I’ll offer a rebuttal if I disagree. Isn’t that how a forum discussion works?

Well you clearly have no idea how many people who had given up on politics were inspired by Bernie.  I know a lot of them actually.  Nah, I think I'll go to sleep, because you are obviously not discussing in good faith.  Bye now.
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« Reply #4881 on: November 04, 2020, 02:51:14 AM »

According to my map here on my screen, Biden only has one path left:

WI + GA

Assuming:

Biden already has AZ, NV, ME
Trump already has PA, NC, MI

With so many early ballots to be counted, and with Biden only 120,000 behind in each state, there is a big chance for Biden to steal this at the bell.

Trump will have a meltdown unless this count gets organised quickly tomorrow.

Trump doesnt have PA and MI yet.
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« Reply #4882 on: November 04, 2020, 02:51:23 AM »

Yeah it’s time to push left on fiscal issues and right on social issues.

Ew no. You really think that's what cost us in Fla and TX?

Considering you see 60 point swings in poor rural Tejano counties?

Yes lol.

I think it's pretty clear that left on economics is bad with Latinos.
While I don’t think ideology plays as big a role with voters as some posters here, I think what we’re really discounting is the advantage of incumbency among certain groups of voters.
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« Reply #4883 on: November 04, 2020, 02:51:28 AM »

Yeah it’s time to push left on fiscal issues and right on social issues.

Ew no. You really think that's what cost us in Fla and TX?

TX definitely

And if we did the inverse we wouldn't have our historic margins in Collin/Hays/Williamson. You can't have it both ways.
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« Reply #4884 on: November 04, 2020, 02:51:31 AM »


That it took this long to definitively project Virginia is certainly not good news for Biden. It appears that he is going to win the state by an underwhelming margin at this point, perhaps slightly less than Northam's margin of victory in 2017. This was a state where it was thought Democrats would win by double digits. And Bob Good won in VA-05, so another disappointment for Democrats in the House.
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« Reply #4885 on: November 04, 2020, 02:51:57 AM »

I don't disagree. They could have called it an hour ago.
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« Reply #4886 on: November 04, 2020, 02:52:03 AM »

Without being abused can someone give me a rational case for why that stupid needle still favours Biden in Georgia?

Most vote is out in the Atlanta area, in counties that heavily favor Biden. Even if they just voted at their current rate for him, he would narrowly win the state. If they broke even more heavily for Biden (possible as most are mail-in), he would win it a bit more comfortably. Only if the remaining ballots are unexpectedly not as good for Biden would he lose it.
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« Reply #4887 on: November 04, 2020, 02:52:08 AM »

Without being abused can someone give me a rational case for why that stupid needle still favours Biden in Georgia?

Outstanding vote is mostly in Dem areas, and most of the vote that has been reported in those counties so far is ED, so EV should be even more favorable to Biden.
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« Reply #4888 on: November 04, 2020, 02:53:04 AM »

According to my map here on my screen, Biden only has one path left:

WI + GA

Assuming:

Biden already has AZ, NV, ME, VA
Trump already has PA, NC, MI

With so many early ballots to be counted, and with Biden only 120,000 behind in each state, there is a big chance for Biden to steal this at the bell.

Trump will have a meltdown regardless.

Why did you give Trump Michigan?  Or Pennsylvania, for that matter?
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« Reply #4889 on: November 04, 2020, 02:53:15 AM »


That it took this long to definitively project Virginia is certainly not good news for Biden. It appears that he is going to win the state by an underwhelming margin at this point, perhaps slightly less than Northam's margin of victory in 2017. This was a state where it was thought Democrats would win by double digits. And Bob Good won in VA-05, so another disappointment for Democrats in the House.
I'm not sure I would read that much into it. It could be more that they are very cautious about making calls.
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« Reply #4890 on: November 04, 2020, 02:53:38 AM »

According to my map here on my screen, Biden only has one path left:

WI + GA

Assuming:

Biden already has AZ, NV, ME
Trump already has PA, NC, MI

With so many early ballots to be counted, and with Biden only 120,000 behind in each state, there is a big chance for Biden to steal this at the bell.

Trump will have a meltdown unless this count gets organised quickly tomorrow.

Trump doesnt have PA and MI yet.

PA - Biden is 700,000 votes behind (74% in)
MI - Biden is 300,000 votes behind (69% in)

Biden is not catching Trump anywhere near enough in either state to make up the gap in the remaining votes.
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« Reply #4891 on: November 04, 2020, 02:53:48 AM »

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.


Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  

Exactly, Bernie would've won Arizona very handily. This is just mind-numbing right now.

What universe are you guys living in lol

the two dem that AZ just elected are Mark Kelly and Kristen Sinema
they are the furthest from Berinie as you possibly can get


Berinie?  You don't even know what his name is, and you expect us to take you seriously?

Those were the Democrats that were on the ballot, and thy voted for them.  What makes you think they wouldn't have voted for another Democrat.  Stop trolling now.
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« Reply #4892 on: November 04, 2020, 02:53:51 AM »

Question when will we get the outstanding results in GA
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« Reply #4893 on: November 04, 2020, 02:54:19 AM »

Without being abused can someone give me a rational case for why that stupid needle still favours Biden in Georgia?

Most vote is out in the Atlanta area, in counties that heavily favor Biden. Even if they just voted at their current rate for him, he would narrowly win the state. If they broke even more heavily for Biden (possible as most are mail-in), he would win it a bit more comfortably. Only if the remaining ballots are unexpectedly not as good for Biden would he lose it.
Then I would says Biden's a favourite to win Georgia as VBM is at or more more dem friendly
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« Reply #4894 on: November 04, 2020, 02:54:28 AM »


That it took this long to definitively project Virginia is certainly not good news for Biden. It appears that he is going to win the state by an underwhelming margin at this point, perhaps slightly less than Northam's margin of victory in 2017. This was a state where it was thought Democrats would win by double digits. And Bob Good won in VA-05, so another disappointment for Democrats in the House.
I'm not sure I would read that much into it. It could be more that they are very cautious about making calls.

Fox has been less cautious, but still has 7 states uncalled.
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« Reply #4895 on: November 04, 2020, 02:54:32 AM »

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.


Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state. 

Exactly, Bernie would've won Arizona very handily. This is just mind-numbing right now.

What universe are you guys living in lol

the two dem that AZ just elected are Mark Kelly and Kristen Sinema
they are the furthest from Berinie as you possibly can get


Berinie?  You don't even know what his name is, and you expect us to take you seriously?

Those were the Democrats that were on the ballot, and thy voted for them.  What makes you think they wouldn't have voted for another Democrat.  Stop trolling now.
Stop throwing around trolling accusations. Just stop.
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« Reply #4896 on: November 04, 2020, 02:54:36 AM »

Question when will we get the outstanding results in GA

Apparently counting doesn’t resume until 8 AM.
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« Reply #4897 on: November 04, 2020, 02:55:08 AM »

CNN just said at least 1.4 million mail in ballots left to count in PA. This will be a while...
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« Reply #4898 on: November 04, 2020, 02:55:31 AM »

Didn't Fox say earlier that Biden is a favourite in Wisconsin?
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« Reply #4899 on: November 04, 2020, 02:55:38 AM »

According to my map here on my screen, Biden only has one path left:

WI + GA

Assuming:

Biden already has AZ, NV, ME, VA
Trump already has PA, NC, MI

With so many early ballots to be counted, and with Biden only 120,000 behind in each state, there is a big chance for Biden to steal this at the bell.

Trump will have a meltdown regardless.

Biden is almost certain to win Michigan.  Look at where the remaining vote is and the patterns between election day and early vote.  He makes up his current deficit with the outstanding vote from Wayne county alone.  I think this will also be true in WI and PA, though it will be closer there.
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