COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron

[GeorgiaModerate]

Skipping Nu is understandable, but after that is Xi. Obviously, the WHO is completely stuck in Winnie's ass.

Clearly the development of a new variant is nothing Nu.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1464314210586963976

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Skipping Nu is understandable, but after that is Xi. Obviously, the WHO is completely stuck in Winnie's ass.

Clearly the development of a new variant is nothing Nu.

Is this the start of something Nu? Only history can tell us.

[Skunk]

Oh good another scariant is dominating the news cycle. At this point if you're concerned about COVID-19 bringing about the "end of civilization" or whatever, you might as well just go hide in a bunker for the impending zombie apocalypse too while you're at it.

[Hollywood]

Last night I said Joe Biden should institute an international travel ban, and Ds got very upset at me.  I don't know why they would become upset about a policy that is absolutely necessary to slow the spread of a virus.  That's just commonsense.  I guess it's cause Trump supported the travel bans last year, so they thought it was racist or something.

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1464317456915259393?s=21

Whatever

[MR DARK BRANDON]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1464317456915259393?s=21

Good I’m glad he did

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Hurray. Now we're going to get more unhinged screaming in this thread.

[Calthrina950]

Hurray. Now we're going to get more unhinged screaming in this thread.

What do you mean? Against the Biden Administration? Or about the response to the pandemic?

[roxas11]

Last night I said Joe Biden should institute an international travel ban, and Ds got very upset at me.  I don't know why they would become upset about a policy that is absolutely necessary to slow the spread of a virus.  That's just commonsense.  I guess it's cause Trump supported the travel bans last year, so they thought it was racist or something.

A travel ban alone is not enough

It may buy us some time, but ultimately what we really need is for Our public health agencies to get off their butts and start quickly approving booster shots and the covid pills

I think we also need a stronger consensus among every state when it comes to how we are fighting this virus because what we are currently doing is not working and this state-by-state patchwork Covid-19 response is failing all of us

I think Lincoln said at best "A house divided against itself cannot stand." and there is little chance we will ever beat covid if we are not even united on how to fight the virus in the first place

[Meclazine for Israel]

Unhinged screaming.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

America needs to approve the pills without further delay. Didn't Britain (or some other country) already approve it?

The FDA approves every cancer-causing psychotropic right away, but they won't approve this?

[Hollywood]

Last night I said Joe Biden should institute an international travel ban, and Ds got very upset at me.  I don't know why they would become upset about a policy that is absolutely necessary to slow the spread of a virus.  That's just commonsense.  I guess it's cause Trump supported the travel bans last year, so they thought it was racist or something.

A travel ban alone is not enough

It may buy us some time, but ultimately what we really need is for Our public health agencies to get off their butts and start quickly approving booster shots and the covid pills

I think we also need a stronger consensus among every state when it comes to how we are fighting this virus because what we are currently doing is not working and this state-by-state patchwork Covid-19 response is failing all of us

I think Lincoln said at best "A house divided against itself cannot stand." and there is little chance we will ever beat covid if we are not even united on how to fight the virus in the first place

A travel ban provides you with more time.  If the travel ban had gone in place sooner in 2020, the country could have had more time to prepare for it before the massive outbreaks in NY.  The disaster in NY was not just a symptom of Nursing Home policy. 

Boosters, antibodies, and pills are needed.  I said that last night. 

I think people were hoping Biden would be a much more moderate individual when he came to office with a +17 approval rating (53-36%).  He did a bad job playing the cards he was dealt.  Like we all want unity, but whose version of it?  lol. 

Houses are divided all the time, and still manage to function.  Not all disagreements rise to the level of barbarism. 

[Skill and Chance]

So basically it's August again, but this time aimed at the North.  I am moderately concerned, but as long as the 2 new pills still work, we only need to buy a month or two so they can be widely distributed.

[roxas11]

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1464327805836083201

[Person Man]

So basically it's August again, but this time aimed at the North.  I am moderately concerned, but as long as the 2 new pills still work, we only need to buy a month or two so they can be widely distributed.

Let’s talk about what we’re going to do instead of what’s going to happen to us. Take this post as an example.

[Hollywood]

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1464327805836083201

I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

Also, we have no idea whether the people dying are immunocompromised. 

[Not Me, Us]

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1464327805836083201

I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

I don't really see how that data is useful. Of course countries with such high vaxx rates are going to have mostly vaccinated hospitalizations. What percentage of total cases end up in the hospital? That's the most important question.

[Tekken_Guy]

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1464327805836083201

I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

Also, we have no idea whether the people dying are immunocompromised. 

Another thing. All the concern is based on its transmissibility, but how deadly the new variant isn't really being talked about. If it follows historical patterns and lose their lethality as they become more transmissible, then it's a sign the pandemic is on its last legs.

[Hollywood]

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1464327805836083201

I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

I don't really see how that data is useful. Of course countries with such high vaxx rates are going to have mostly vaccinated hospitalizations. What percentage of total cases end up in the hospital? That's the most important question.

Let's me at it from your POV.  If you had numbers suggesting that immunompromised were more likely to die from the infection than a Covid-19 jab, Democrats could make argument that those people should also be jabbed.  You don't know how information can be used until you've analyzed and tossed around some theories.  I've written for a Law Journal.  You don't just write about something that's already been written without adding anything else.  That's what separates the average academics from the extraordinary ones.  Right now there's a Bar Journal sitting on my end table with a cover indicating that the articles are about Covid-19 legal policies and changes.  Covid-19 policies are not only created by medical professionals. 

I agree with you on hospitalization statistics.  I want all the numbers.  Everything. 

[Hollywood]

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1464327805836083201

I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

Also, we have no idea whether the people dying are immunocompromised. 

Another thing. All the concern is based on its transmissibility, but how deadly the new variant isn't really being talked about. If it follows historical patterns and lose their lethality as they become more transmissible, then it's a sign the pandemic is on its last legs.

I think lethality is most important.  I can't comment on the other thing you said cause I'm not competent on that particular sub-issue. 

There are examples of viruses becoming more deadly and transmissable, so I don't find it helpful for scientists to base their opinions on that assumption. 

[Tekken_Guy]

This may or may not be true, but as of right now I still think every county should not take any chances and wait for more data before agreeing with South Africa's health minister

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1464327805836083201

I've seen data from Portugal (86%) and Gibraltar (100% vaccinated) suggesting the vaccinated represent most of the hospitalizations, which is why countries were panicking yesterday.  However, the death rate is better than when people were not vaccinated.  

Also, we have no idea whether the people dying are immunocompromised. 

Another thing. All the concern is based on its transmissibility, but how deadly the new variant isn't really being talked about. If it follows historical patterns and lose their lethality as they become more transmissible, then it's a sign the pandemic is on its last legs.

I think lethality is most important.  I can't comment on the other thing you said cause I'm not competent on that particular sub-issue. 

There are examples of viruses becoming more deadly and transmissable, so I don't find it helpful for scientists to base their opinions on that assumption. 

I don't know of any examples of that ever happening, so I'd take that as the exception rather than the rule.

[roxas11]

Last night I said Joe Biden should institute an international travel ban, and Ds got very upset at me.  I don't know why they would become upset about a policy that is absolutely necessary to slow the spread of a virus.  That's just commonsense.  I guess it's cause Trump supported the travel bans last year, so they thought it was racist or something.

A travel ban alone is not enough

It may buy us some time, but ultimately what we really need is for Our public health agencies to get off their butts and start quickly approving booster shots and the covid pills

I think we also need a stronger consensus among every state when it comes to how we are fighting this virus because what we are currently doing is not working and this state-by-state patchwork Covid-19 response is failing all of us

I think Lincoln said at best "A house divided against itself cannot stand." and there is little chance we will ever beat covid if we are not even united on how to fight the virus in the first place

A travel ban provides you with more time.  If the travel ban had gone in place sooner in 2020, the country could have had more time to prepare for it before the massive outbreaks in NY.  The disaster in NY was not just a symptom of Nursing Home policy.  

Boosters, antibodies, and pills are needed.  I said that last night.  

I think people were hoping Biden would be a much more moderate individual when he came to office with a +17 approval rating (53-36%).  He did a bad job playing the cards he was dealt. Like we all want unity, but whose version of it?  lol.  

Houses are divided all the time, and still manage to function.  Not all disagreements rise to the level of barbarism.  

With this line I think you just summed up the biggest problem with our current politics

Everybody claims they want unity, but as you said whose version of Unity is it?

Also, even when there has been unity, it's never as easy or satisfying as TV shows like the West Wing makes it look. Honestly, I get the sense that the Americans people are more in love with the concept of unity than they are with the reality of it. Just look a recent bipartisan infrastructure bill that just passed, That is the first time I ever saw Mitch McConnell actually vote for a Major bill by a democrat president

But when you look at the process it was long and not everybody got what they wanted in the end. Americans said they were not happy with how the process played out, but that is what real unity looks like. Its mostly an unsatisfying process, where both sides give up something they want in order come to a consensus on a bill

Unity is not the great hollywood fairy tale ending that the american people seem to think it is

[emailking]

I don't know of any examples of that ever happening, so I'd take that as the exception rather than the rule.

Delta is an example.

The death rate is too low for there to be significant selection pressure against a more deadly variant. It can go either way.

[Tekken_Guy]

I don't know of any examples of that ever happening, so I'd take that as the exception rather than the rule.

Delta is an example.

The death rate is too low for there to be significant selection pressure against a more deadly variant. It can go either way.

I don't understand what you mean by that.