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« on: September 26, 2020, 12:59:54 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/26/us/ohio-woman-tased-football-game-mask-trnd/index.html

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An Ohio woman was tased and arrested for refusing to leave a middle school football game after police say she refused multiple requests to comply with school policy to wear a mask while watching the game.

Alecia Kitts was in the stands watching her son's football game in Logan, Ohio, on Wednesday when police say a school resource officer asked her to wear a mask. She refused, saying she had asthma. Logan police said Officer Chris Smith told her that if she didn't put her mask on, she would be asked to leave.

In a news conference yesterday, Gov. Mike DeWine said Kitts was told that if she had asthma, she could get a face shield and come back for the game.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2020, 01:15:16 PM »

Justice served.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2020, 01:20:32 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2020, 01:22:04 PM »

Don't tase me bro.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2020, 01:23:16 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.

If the abandonment of excessive state-sanctioned violence is ever going to be realised across the political spectrum, it is going to have to start on the liberal side.
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2020, 01:25:04 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause.

If the abandonment of excessive state-sanctioned violence is ever going to be realised across the political spectrum, it is going to have to start on the liberal side.

 Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of a pandemic is not a Democratic politcal cause.

 I also wasn't celebrating anything. This lady could have simply worn a mask and avoided escalating the situation.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2020, 01:28:06 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. [Edited in after post quoted: In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.]

If the abandonment of excessive state-sanctioned violence is ever going to be realised across the political spectrum, it is going to have to start on the liberal side.

 Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of pandemic is not a Democratic politcal cause.

It shouldn't be, but it is.

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I also wasn't celebrating anything. This lady could have simply worn a mask and avoided escalating the situation.

The state usually bears responsibility (rightly or wrongly) for the violence of its agents and I believe that holds in this case- it is overwhelmingly likely the officers' lives weren't endangered so they didn't need to resort to such extreme force.

Her escalation should not have led to a tazing. It's that simple.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2020, 01:32:33 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. [Edited in after post quoted: In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.]

If the abandonment of excessive state-sanctioned violence is ever going to be realised across the political spectrum, it is going to have to start on the liberal side.

 Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of pandemic is not a Democratic politcal cause.

It shouldn't be, but it is.

 Because idiots don't want to wear masks that doesn't make Democrats practicing sound medical advice is a partisan issue. You wouldn't say washing your hands is part of the Democratic politcal cause and if you did that would be ridiculous. 

 
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2020, 01:35:00 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. [Edited in after post quoted: In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.]

If the abandonment of excessive state-sanctioned violence is ever going to be realised across the political spectrum, it is going to have to start on the liberal side.

 Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of pandemic is not a Democratic politcal cause.

It shouldn't be, but it is.

 Because idiots don't want to wear masks that doesn't make Democrats practicing sound medical advice is a partisan issue.

You wouldn't say washing your hands is part of the Democratic politcal cause and if you did that would be ridiculous. 

If Trump objected to hand-washing and a substantial portion of the Republican base followed and pulled political stunts against it while Democratic leaders mandated it in various states, yes, hand-washing would become a Democratic political cause. A cause being just or "common-sense" does not diminish from its political nature. Nothing is ever inherently beyond politics.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2020, 01:38:44 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.

She was resisting arrest for trespassing.  At that point the options were either tazing or tackling and as a general rule, tazing is safer for all involved. She escalated the situation at multiple stages.  What I don't understand is how she was allowed in if she wasn't wearing a mask upon entry. That's really the only place I can fault the officials here, assuming she didn't wear a mask upon entry and then took if off later.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2020, 01:40:43 PM »

She wasn't tased for refusing to wear a mask. She was asked to leave and she refused, which is what we call trespassing. I don't condone excessive use of force by law enforcement, but this individual was not a victim. It was still pretty much kid gloves on account of her being white. I imagine the use of force would have been far more severe if she were a black woman, even worse if she were a black man instead.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2020, 01:40:53 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. [Edited in after post quoted: In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.]

If the abandonment of excessive state-sanctioned violence is ever going to be realised across the political spectrum, it is going to have to start on the liberal side.

 Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of pandemic is not a Democratic politcal cause.

It shouldn't be, but it is.

 Because idiots don't want to wear masks that doesn't make Democrats practicing sound medical advice is a partisan issue.

You wouldn't say washing your hands is part of the Democratic politcal cause and if you did that would be ridiculous. 

If Trump objected to hand-washing and a substantial portion of the Republican base followed and pulled political stunts against it while Democratic leaders mandated it in various states, yes, hand-washing would become a Democratic political cause. A cause being just or "common-sense" does not diminish from its political nature. Nothing is ever inherently beyond politics.

 This is why our entire politics have been debased. Because The Republican party takes insane and intolerable stances and Democrats are then pegged as opposing something, creating a false debate and wasting time and energy. I don't agree with your post or logic.
 
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2020, 01:43:12 PM »

Feel sorry for her kid. Especially if he happened see it happening from the field.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2020, 01:47:31 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.

If the abandonment of excessive state-sanctioned violence is ever going to be realised across the political spectrum, it is going to have to start on the liberal side.

Well said.

Police need to be trained in use of force at levels between "verbally demanding compliance" and "potentially lethal electrocution".
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2020, 01:53:47 PM »

Do you think anti-maskers would support someone's right to go around with no pants on?
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2020, 01:57:20 PM »

She was tasered for resisting arrest, not for not wearing a mask. If the rules were not to her liking she should have left. The police officer did not use excessive force and properly handled the situation.
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2020, 02:14:15 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.

If the abandonment of excessive state-sanctioned violence is ever going to be realised across the political spectrum, it is going to have to start on the liberal side.

Well said.

Police need to be trained in use of force at levels between "verbally demanding compliance" and "potentially lethal electrocution".

Did you even bother to read the linked article?  The police here didn't go straight to using the taser, and she was given plenty of warning of what would happen at each step.  She kept refusing to either mask or leave until the choice for the police was either tasering or tackling her.  As a general rule, tasering is the safer option.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2020, 02:29:20 PM »

I sincerely hope the posts here are ironic. This looks to be an example of excessive use of police force but it's being celebrated by red avatars (and probably only rejected by blue avatars) because it's in support of a Democratic political cause. In all likelihood, this woman didn't need to be tazed to be restrained and that could plausibly carry health risks greater than her not wearing a mask.

She was resisting arrest for trespassing.  At that point the options were either tazing or tackling and as a general rule, tazing is safer for all involved. She escalated the situation at multiple stages.  What I don't understand is how she was allowed in if she wasn't wearing a mask upon entry. That's really the only place I can fault the officials here, assuming she didn't wear a mask upon entry and then took if off later.

On the local news, they said she had a mask in her back pocket.
So she may have worn it to enter, then removed it later.
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2020, 05:12:38 PM »

Surely the blue avatars will support this since she wasn't following the law?
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2020, 05:16:38 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2020, 09:47:00 PM by Virginiá »

What a stupid rule and the school/locality's choice in how to enforce it.

The event is outdoors, and from the looks of the video there was plenty of "social distance" between the woman and other spectators at the event.  In what universe does wearing a mask in these kind of circumstances even make a difference?

The school district misapplied the law, and misapplied it haphazardly and violently.  This woman should sue.
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2020, 06:47:33 PM »

What a stupid rule and the school/locality's choice in how to enforce it.

The event is outdoors, and from the looks of the video there was plenty of "social distance" between the woman and other spectators at the event.  In what universe does wearing a mask in these kind of circumstances even make a difference? (Red avatar answer:  "because sCIeNcE you GOPtard!1!!")

The school district misapplied the law, and misapplied it haphazardly and violently.  This woman should sue.

Once she resisted arrest she initiated the violence. Was the officer supposed to let her assault him? What hasn't been mentioned is that she had a mask in her pocket despite claiming that she couldn't wear one because she has asthma. Seems to me that she just likes drama and wanted to put on a show.
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2020, 06:51:05 PM »

Woman who claims to have asthma is out and about without a mask on not worried about getting a serious respiratory ailment.
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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2020, 06:52:20 PM »

What a stupid rule and the school/locality's choice in how to enforce it.

The event is outdoors, and from the looks of the video there was plenty of "social distance" between the woman and other spectators at the event.  In what universe does wearing a mask in these kind of circumstances even make a difference? (Red avatar answer:  "because sCIeNcE you GOPtard!1!!")

The school district misapplied the law, and misapplied it haphazardly and violently.  This woman should sue.

Once she resisted arrest she initiated the violence. Was the officer supposed to let her assault him? What hasn't been mentioned is that she had a mask in her pocket despite claiming that she couldn't wear one because she has asthma. Seems to me that she just likes drama and wanted to put on a show.

The SRO should have employed his discretion and not tried to enforce such a silly rule against a woman sitting outdoors, by herself, not remotely near anyone else
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2020, 07:00:47 PM »

What a stupid rule and the school/locality's choice in how to enforce it.

The event is outdoors, and from the looks of the video there was plenty of "social distance" between the woman and other spectators at the event.  In what universe does wearing a mask in these kind of circumstances even make a difference? (Red avatar answer:  "because sCIeNcE you GOPtard!1!!")

The school district misapplied the law, and misapplied it haphazardly and violently.  This woman should sue.

Once she resisted arrest she initiated the violence. Was the officer supposed to let her assault him? What hasn't been mentioned is that she had a mask in her pocket despite claiming that she couldn't wear one because she has asthma. Seems to me that she just likes drama and wanted to put on a show.

The SRO should have employed his discretion and not tried to enforce such a silly rule against a woman sitting outdoors, by herself, not remotely near anyone else

In a deadly pandemic mask wearing not a silly rule. She escalated the situation by refusing to wear a mask or leave. She wasn't on her own property so she was only allowed to be there per the rules of the school district.
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2020, 07:04:59 PM »



Why does anyone think tasering is funny?


It's violence.  If you are going to use it, you need a good reason.  There isn't one here.
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