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« Reply #75 on: September 03, 2020, 07:38:01 PM »

Double standard by the red avatars here. You need mountains of evidence to show Biden is declining mentally, but a legacy media article with anonymous sources are enough for your confirmation bias.

Let me guess: You believe QAnon.

No, because there is no evidence that Qanon is real.
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« Reply #76 on: September 03, 2020, 07:40:42 PM »

Donald Trump is going to burn in hell.
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« Reply #77 on: September 03, 2020, 07:42:08 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2020, 07:50:35 PM by Associate Justice PiT »

Double standard by the red avatars here. You need mountains of evidence to show Biden is declining mentally, but a legacy media article with anonymous sources are enough for your confirmation bias.

Let me guess: You believe QAnon.

No, because there is no evidence that Qanon is real.

If you cared about evidence, you would not support a man who opposes evidence-based policies, who lies every time he opens his mouth, and tells people to inject bleach based on pseudoscience. You also wouldn't believe baseless conspiracy theories like Biden has dementia, Songbird McCain, etc. You also would count an article written by a reputable journalist working for a reputable publication as evidence.
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« Reply #78 on: September 03, 2020, 07:46:07 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2020, 07:51:06 PM by Associate Justice PiT »

Double standard by the red avatars here. You need mountains of evidence to show Biden is declining mentally, but a legacy media article with anonymous sources are enough for your confirmation bias.
Let me guess: You believe QAnon.

No, because there is no evidence that Qanon is real.

If you cared about evidence, you would not support a man who opposes evidence-based policies, who lies every time he opens his mouth, and tells people to inject bleach based on pseudoscience. You also would count an article written by a reputable journalist working for a reputable publication as evidence.
I agree with Trump's policies more than Biden's. That's why I support him. I align closest with him on issues like abortion, courts, trade, immigration, etc.
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« Reply #79 on: September 03, 2020, 07:47:24 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2020, 07:51:03 PM by Virginiá »

Guys, please give it a rest with Dark Horse for now. Two pages is enough.
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« Reply #80 on: September 03, 2020, 07:49:46 PM »

The fact that people even have to wonder whether he said this is extremely sad in and of itself.

Could you imagine if it was reported that Biden said this?  Not a single person would believe it.  It's so far outside Biden's character to say anything remotely this reprehensible.

But when it's reported that Trump said something so depraved, so disgusting, so abhorrent, we all, red and blue alike, just go, "yeah that sounds like something he would say."


You may agree with your president's policies, and use that as your excuse to continue supporting him.  But even the most die-hard Republican can not, in their heart of hearts, deny that the president is an absolutely terrible person.
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« Reply #81 on: September 03, 2020, 07:49:46 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2020, 08:06:16 PM by BaldEagle1991 »

I never thought we'd see something lower than that of his mocking of a disabled reporter.

But here we are!
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« Reply #82 on: September 03, 2020, 07:50:03 PM »


That should be in this section.
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« Reply #83 on: September 03, 2020, 07:51:59 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2020, 07:59:03 PM by Western Democrat »

Nice to see Republicans showing their true colors in this thread.

You always lecture us about how you support the Troops, how Democrats are “Anti-American” and how you are the real patriots. We know that was all a bunch of Bullsh**t and projection. You couldn’t care less about the Troops, you don’t care about this country, you aren’t patriots. You are all a bunch of Anti-American lowlifes. When it comes between Trump and America, you choose Trump every single time. You’re a mockery of what it means to be a patriot. I dare any one of you to look a Veteran in the face and defend this crap. Look them in the face and tell that Trump never said this, that him saying that their fellow countryman who died are “losers” and disabled Soldiers who lost a leg to an IED or a Gunshot wound are “hard to watch” is a lie. Tell them that it’s a lie and that any who believes it is crazy. See how they react. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. What a disgrace.
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« Reply #84 on: September 03, 2020, 07:57:10 PM »

So patriotic.
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« Reply #85 on: September 03, 2020, 07:57:51 PM »

I never thought we'd see something lower that his mocking of a disabled reporter.

But here we are!

There is no bottom. There never will be.
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« Reply #86 on: September 03, 2020, 07:59:37 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2020, 08:03:15 PM by The bEagle Forum »

Our own president hates our country and it’s armed forces. How does our nation recover from this? How do you expect us to stay a country if he wins?
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« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2020, 08:00:57 PM »

Is this a joke too?
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« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2020, 08:05:25 PM »

Yes, his views of combat are clearly very Hollywood and Darwinian.

Successful soldiers: Basically the equivalent of action film stars who take out a hundred of the enemy with one shot.

Dead soldiers: Chumps who deserved it for being weak.

Judging by the amount of camo-wearers who fetishize Chris Kyle and Marcus Luttrell, and the bizarre worship of war criminal James Mattis, that's probably not an unpopular view.
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« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2020, 08:05:55 PM »

Just appalling. On one hand I sigh and think that nothing matters anymore, but then I look at Democrats' huge 2018 House comeback and Biden's consistent 6-8 point lead, and think that these things do in fact matter.
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« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2020, 08:09:30 PM »

He definitely said it. This is exactly in Trump's worldview of the world being divided into winners/losers, killers and their victims. This is the way he talks on the record, in many many sources and reports.

 
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« Reply #91 on: September 03, 2020, 08:15:07 PM »

His hair looks like garbage all the time anyway so I'm not sure why he thought the rain would make it looks worse.
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« Reply #92 on: September 03, 2020, 08:22:17 PM »

But.. but...I thought liberals were the ones who hated America and the troops.
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« Reply #93 on: September 03, 2020, 08:35:07 PM »

War, especially in the 20th century, was not designed to avoid casualties even in the best of scenarios. Soldiers getting killed, injured or captured was seen as part of the plan. The fault goes not to the individual soldiers who were caught up in this system, and ended up as casualties themselves-- and who were often drafted. Military action was not, and still is not, an individual exercise where a soldier can just run around willy nilly and go where he wants. He has to obey orders to ensure that the entire group utilizes the advantages of acting as one. And really, becoming a casualty is often random chance, not meritocracy.

The fault rather goes to the politicians who started wars and the Generals who carried out military strategy.
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« Reply #94 on: September 03, 2020, 08:43:03 PM »

I have veteran friends on FB, who have not posted anything in years, sharing this story.
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« Reply #95 on: September 03, 2020, 09:08:52 PM »


Trump has more respect for Vladimir Putin then his own dead soldiers. Trump is a traitor to his very core.
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« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2020, 09:14:54 PM »

More corroboration:

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« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2020, 09:22:02 PM »

Is there anything in Trump's history that would give us reason to doubt this?

- Draft dodging
- McCain "not a hero" comments
- Treatment of the Khan family
- Ordering the botched Yemen raid for political points
- Refusing to visit war graves in France
- Non-reaction to the Russia bounty scandal

This is a clear pattern of behavior.
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« Reply #98 on: September 03, 2020, 09:27:28 PM »

More corroboration:



So this is definitely Mattis, right?
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« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2020, 09:39:07 PM »

A lot of people say this privately, how many hard left and hard right antiwar people have said this privately?

Why fight for Bush's wars, etc.?

Trump is a piece of **** though.
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