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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2020, 06:11:45 PM »

Nothing surprises me anymore
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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2020, 06:19:00 PM »

Run this through every state with VBM applications.
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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2020, 06:19:10 PM »

I find this more than a little hard to believe. Not because I think Trump's incapable of having these views, but because he's usually somewhat careful to avoid insulting his base.

Given what he said about John McCain and the Khan family, this is not only believable but expected.
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« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2020, 06:19:36 PM »

I find this more than a little hard to believe. Not because I think Trump's incapable of having these views, but because he's usually somewhat careful to avoid insulting his base.

In order to care about insulting someone, you have to respect them.

Trump doesn't respect his voters. He sees them as useful idiots to be entertained and distracted by shiny objects.
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« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2020, 06:27:02 PM »

When are you people gonna understand that Republicans like this POS not despite but because of his cruelty. The base has the exact same attitude, and if someone doubts about that just take a look at what the blue avatars are saying in all the threads about police brutality.
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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2020, 06:33:57 PM »

Absolutely disgusting. I truly have no words, I would get in trouble otherwise so let me keep quiet.
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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2020, 06:35:39 PM »

This is yet more proof, not that it is needed, that Trump does not have the moral character to serve as President. The President should understand what it means to serve others and their country-that is at the heart of their job after all.
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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2020, 06:37:29 PM »

Lol jk

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

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Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2020, 06:38:46 PM »

More 'anonymous' sources from legacy media. They are the enemy of the people.

"The media is not your friend"
-CNN's Chris Cuomo
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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2020, 06:41:35 PM »

I heard from an anonymous source in the White House that Trump crudely propositioned Mrs. Claus during a state visit to the North Pole.
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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2020, 06:41:52 PM »

Release the tapes or it didn't happen.
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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2020, 06:44:19 PM »

I heard from an anonymous source in the White House that Trump crudely propositioned Mrs. Claus during a state visit to the North Pole.
I have an anonymous source from the Obama-era White House that says Biden pees sitting down
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« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2020, 06:46:09 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2020, 06:48:40 PM »

Name names.
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« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2020, 06:49:05 PM »

More 'anonymous' sources from legacy media. They are the enemy of the people.

"The media is not your friend"
-CNN's Chris Cuomo

These anonymous sources seem credible. This article is a good guide to the topic. There are multiple sources, they are specific claims about a past event. They're not just saying it is "people familiar with Trump's thinking" but someone within a smaller subset of people that would be close to Trump and Kelly and so should be accurate. The denial is mixed, while it does say it is false it also deflects to other issues and doesn't explain why Trump cancelled his visit to the cemetery or why the other specific claims are false. So this story is credible and should be accurate.
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« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2020, 06:50:35 PM »

At some point these people have to start coming forward. Majority of the military, especially the upper levels are not fond of Trump. If they come forward they will be protected, if they don't, nothing changes and he still has at least a one in three chance this November.
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« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2020, 06:51:50 PM »

At some point these people have to start coming forward. Majority of the military, especially the upper levels are not fond of Trump. If they come forward they will be protected, if they don't, nothing changes and he still has at least a one in three chance this November.

You could argue that nothing would change either way, based on the past three years or so. 
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« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2020, 06:52:50 PM »

At some point these people have to start coming forward. Majority of the military, especially the upper levels are not fond of Trump. If they come forward they will be protected, if they don't, nothing changes and he still has at least a one in three chance this November.

You could argue that nothing would change either way, based on the past three years or so. 

Still more likely to move the needle than "anonymous sources"
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« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2020, 06:53:39 PM »

More 'anonymous' sources from legacy media. They are the enemy of the people.

"The media is not your friend"
-CNN's Chris Cuomo

These anonymous sources seem credible. This article is a good guide to the topic. There are multiple sources, they are specific claims about a past event. They're not just saying it is "people familiar with Trump's thinking" but someone within a smaller subset of people that would be close to Trump and Kelly and so should be accurate. The denial is mixed, while it does say it is false it also deflects to other issues and doesn't explain why Trump cancelled his visit to the cemetery or why the other specific claims are false. So this story is credible and should be accurate.
Yes. Believe the legacy media, that have been proven to be liars and have ties to the DNC.

They are really going all out with the bs smears this week. Must be worried.
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« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2020, 06:55:14 PM »

More 'anonymous' sources from legacy media. They are the enemy of the people.

"The media is not your friend"
-CNN's Chris Cuomo

These anonymous sources seem credible. This article is a good guide to the topic. There are multiple sources, they are specific claims about a past event. They're not just saying it is "people familiar with Trump's thinking" but someone within a smaller subset of people that would be close to Trump and Kelly and so should be accurate. The denial is mixed, while it does say it is false it also deflects to other issues and doesn't explain why Trump cancelled his visit to the cemetery or why the other specific claims are false. So this story is credible and should be accurate.
Yes. Believe the legacy media, that have been proven to be liars and have ties to the DNC.

They are really going all out with the bs smears this week. Must be worried.

Just admit it. You’d defend Trump no matter what.
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« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2020, 06:55:22 PM »

More 'anonymous' sources from legacy media. They are the enemy of the people.

"The media is not your friend"
-CNN's Chris Cuomo

These anonymous sources seem credible. This article is a good guide to the topic. There are multiple sources, they are specific claims about a past event. They're not just saying it is "people familiar with Trump's thinking" but someone within a smaller subset of people that would be close to Trump and Kelly and so should be accurate. The denial is mixed, while it does say it is false it also deflects to other issues and doesn't explain why Trump cancelled his visit to the cemetery or why the other specific claims are false. So this story is credible and should be accurate.
Yes. Believe the legacy media, that have been proven to be liars and have ties to the DNC.

They are really going all out with the bs smears this week. Must be worried.

Haven't heard the term "legacy media" in a long while.  
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« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2020, 06:56:16 PM »

More 'anonymous' sources from legacy media. They are the enemy of the people.

"The media is not your friend"
-CNN's Chris Cuomo

These anonymous sources seem credible. This article is a good guide to the topic. There are multiple sources, they are specific claims about a past event. They're not just saying it is "people familiar with Trump's thinking" but someone within a smaller subset of people that would be close to Trump and Kelly and so should be accurate. The denial is mixed, while it does say it is false it also deflects to other issues and doesn't explain why Trump cancelled his visit to the cemetery or why the other specific claims are false. So this story is credible and should be accurate.
Yes. Believe the legacy media, that have been proven to be liars and have ties to the DNC.

They are really going all out with the bs smears this week. Must be worried.

Just admit it. You’d defend Trump no matter what.
Just admit it, you'd attack Trump no matter what.
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« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2020, 06:58:21 PM »

More 'anonymous' sources from legacy media. They are the enemy of the people.

"The media is not your friend"
-CNN's Chris Cuomo

These anonymous sources seem credible. This article is a good guide to the topic. There are multiple sources, they are specific claims about a past event. They're not just saying it is "people familiar with Trump's thinking" but someone within a smaller subset of people that would be close to Trump and Kelly and so should be accurate. The denial is mixed, while it does say it is false it also deflects to other issues and doesn't explain why Trump cancelled his visit to the cemetery or why the other specific claims are false. So this story is credible and should be accurate.
Yes. Believe the legacy media, that have been proven to be liars and have ties to the DNC.

They are really going all out with the bs smears this week. Must be worried.

Just admit it. You’d defend Trump no matter what.
Just admit it. You'd defend Biden even if he had an aneurysm during the debates.
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« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2020, 07:00:33 PM »

At some point these people have to start coming forward. Majority of the military, especially the upper levels are not fond of Trump. If they come forward they will be protected, if they don't, nothing changes and he still has at least a one in three chance this November.

You could argue that nothing would change either way, based on the past three years or so.  

That's the beauty of the Qanon theory for Drumpf; the more he is denounced by people in military and intelligence the more his staunchest followers assume he's a martyr. He is probably the most genuinely cultish figure in American politics since Joseph McCarthy.
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« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2020, 07:01:37 PM »

More 'anonymous' sources from legacy media. They are the enemy of the people.

"The media is not your friend"
-CNN's Chris Cuomo

These anonymous sources seem credible. This article is a good guide to the topic. There are multiple sources, they are specific claims about a past event. They're not just saying it is "people familiar with Trump's thinking" but someone within a smaller subset of people that would be close to Trump and Kelly and so should be accurate. The denial is mixed, while it does say it is false it also deflects to other issues and doesn't explain why Trump cancelled his visit to the cemetery or why the other specific claims are false. So this story is credible and should be accurate.
Yes. Believe the legacy media, that have been proven to be liars and have ties to the DNC.

They are really going all out with the bs smears this week. Must be worried.

It's a pretty weak argument to just handwave away criticism of your candidate. Plus, Trump is a proven liar himself.
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