Minneapolis cops slowly murder handcuffed man in front of crowd

[T'Chenka]

Force needs to be applied to curb the actions of the criminals that are looting and destroying businesses, how much economic damage is being inflicted upon normal business owners as a result of these riots. As for the issue of Floyd, it's clear the police attracts some sadists and when you have hundreds of thousands of police officers, you will get a few sadists who enjoy causing pain and killing people, its unfortunate but inevitable, the only solution is a trial for the police officer who was involved with killing Floyd.

ok sauron

So... the angry anarchy mob can just do whatever they want and they can't be met with force? Defending your home, business and family members from pitchforks and torches makes you Sauron now?

To be clear, I am VERY MUCH with these protestors on this unjustified killing. A destructive violent mob and protestors are two different things though. One understands right/wrong and processes logic and reason, the other does not.

This isn't Canada, fam.

"Peaceful" protests have failed time and time again. Is this the right answer? Almost certainly not but it isn't unreasonable for desperate times to call for desperate measures. People are already on their last legs due to the pandemic, it's the perfect storm.

When a mob evolves into a violent mob and then eventually into anarchy, there is literally no organization where the rioters can come together and accomplish anything constructive in the way that protestors could. The only thing anarchy can try and succeed to accomplish is... anarchy. Nothing that helps race relations or brings justice for this travesty can be accomplished by anarchy.

[CookieDamage]

Yeah this is insane. George Floyd would be aghast to see this happening.

Keep his name and what he would feel out of your mouth, you don't know.

[lfromnj]

Force needs to be applied to curb the actions of the criminals that are looting and destroying businesses, how much economic damage is being inflicted upon normal business owners as a result of these riots. As for the issue of Floyd, it's clear the police attracts some sadists and when you have hundreds of thousands of police officers, you will get a few sadists who enjoy causing pain and killing people, its unfortunate but inevitable, the only solution is a trial for the police officer who was involved with killing Floyd.

ok sauron

So... the angry anarchy mob can just do whatever they want and they can't be met with force? Defending your home, business and family members from pitchforks and torches makes you Sauron now? I sure hope they don't break into your home, steal your belongings, sexually assault your wife/daughter and kill your dog. Too bad it would be wrong to defend yourself.

To be clear, I am VERY MUCH with these protestors on this unjustified killing. A destructive violent mob and protestors are two different things though. One understands right/wrong and processes logic and reason, the other does not.

Right, everyone should just say "I'm sorry" and sing kumbayah over some poutine. Police brutality solved 🙄

But seriously, this has been boiling over for years. Maybe it isn't right, but it's nothing compared to what police have inflicted on minorities for centuries. I don't condone it, but I get it.

This is how I feel.  They've tried everything and nothing has changed.  What are they supposed to do?  Peaceful protest?  Taking a knee was about the most respectful thing they could've done to protest police brutality, and they were mocked and vilified by the President and his ilk for it.  

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265774767493148672

[AtorBoltox]

If some users here were alive in the 70s they'd label the Soweto uprising 'unproductive'

[fhtagn]

The Michigan protest while which you can disagree with politically was mostly peaceful.

Storming the capital with assault weapons is NOT peaceful.

Sorry bud, just because you don't like guns doesn't mean people carrying them are committing a violent act.

Storming a legislature with the express purpose of intimidating elected officials is domestic terrorism

No one "stormed" anything. Also they did so in an open carry state.
Nothing wrong was done, and unlike the scum rioting in Minnesota, they aren't causing harm to people and property.

[lfromnj]

Yeah this is insane. George Floyd would be aghast to see this happening.

Keep his name and what he would feel out of your mouth, you don't know.

Why don't you stop agitating for riots?
https://patch.com/minnesota/southwestminneapolis/george-floyd-s-girlfriend-riots-would-have-devastated-him

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Yeah this is insane. George Floyd would be aghast to see this happening.

Keep his name and what he would feel out of your mouth, you don't know.

I can do what I want. You can be horrified by the killing of George Floyd, and be against looting and arson.

[AtorBoltox]

Force needs to be applied to curb the actions of the criminals that are looting and destroying businesses, how much economic damage is being inflicted upon normal business owners as a result of these riots. As for the issue of Floyd, it's clear the police attracts some sadists and when you have hundreds of thousands of police officers, you will get a few sadists who enjoy causing pain and killing people, its unfortunate but inevitable, the only solution is a trial for the police officer who was involved with killing Floyd.

ok sauron

So... the angry anarchy mob can just do whatever they want and they can't be met with force? Defending your home, business and family members from pitchforks and torches makes you Sauron now? I sure hope they don't break into your home, steal your belongings, sexually assault your wife/daughter and kill your dog. Too bad it would be wrong to defend yourself.

To be clear, I am VERY MUCH with these protestors on this unjustified killing. A destructive violent mob and protestors are two different things though. One understands right/wrong and processes logic and reason, the other does not.

Right, everyone should just say "I'm sorry" and sing kumbayah over some poutine. Police brutality solved 🙄

But seriously, this has been boiling over for years. Maybe it isn't right, but it's nothing compared to what police have inflicted on minorities for centuries. I don't condone it, but I get it.

This is how I feel.  They've tried everything and nothing has changed.  What are they supposed to do?  Peaceful protest?  Taking a knee was about the most respectful thing they could've done to protest police brutality, and they were mocked and vilified by the President and his ilk for it.  

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265774767493148672

Oh yes, Donald Trump will end police brutality and usher in a golden age of race relations.

[fhtagn]

Yeah this is insane. George Floyd would be aghast to see this happening.

Keep his name and what he would feel out of your mouth, you don't know.

No respectable person would support what is happening.

[SevenEleven]

Force needs to be applied to curb the actions of the criminals that are looting and destroying businesses, how much economic damage is being inflicted upon normal business owners as a result of these riots. As for the issue of Floyd, it's clear the police attracts some sadists and when you have hundreds of thousands of police officers, you will get a few sadists who enjoy causing pain and killing people, its unfortunate but inevitable, the only solution is a trial for the police officer who was involved with killing Floyd.

ok sauron

So... the angry anarchy mob can just do whatever they want and they can't be met with force? Defending your home, business and family members from pitchforks and torches makes you Sauron now?

To be clear, I am VERY MUCH with these protestors on this unjustified killing. A destructive violent mob and protestors are two different things though. One understands right/wrong and processes logic and reason, the other does not.

This isn't Canada, fam.

"Peaceful" protests have failed time and time again. Is this the right answer? Almost certainly not but it isn't unreasonable for desperate times to call for desperate measures. People are already on their last legs due to the pandemic, it's the perfect storm.

When a mob evolves into a violent mob and then eventually into anarchy, there is literally no organization where the rioters can come together and accomplish anything constructive in the way that protestors could. The only thing anarchy can try and succeed to accomplish is... anarchy. Nothing that helps race relations or brings justice for this travesty can be accomplished by anarchy.

I understand that. Decrying certain behaviors doesn't create a solution, though. What is the fix, and when? This issue isn't going to go away without action.

[AtorBoltox]

The riots are a reaction to injustice. The proper way to end is to provide justice, not to tut tut and say 'can't everyone get along'

[SevenEleven]

Yeah this is insane. George Floyd would be aghast to see this happening.

Keep his name and what he would feel out of your mouth, you don't know.

No respectable person would support what is happening.

I'm not sure you would make a good judge of who is or isn't a respectable person.

[fhtagn]

Yeah this is insane. George Floyd would be aghast to see this happening.

Keep his name and what he would feel out of your mouth, you don't know.

No respectable person would support what is happening.

I'm not sure you would make a good judge of who is or isn't a respectable person.

Says the person who supports harming people and destroying property for no valid reason. 

[Beet]

The people trying to articulate a case for or against the riot are missing the point. There is no argument for it. There is no argument against it. It is simply an expression of blind rage.

[SevenEleven]

Yeah this is insane. George Floyd would be aghast to see this happening.

Keep his name and what he would feel out of your mouth, you don't know.

No respectable person would support what is happening.

I'm not sure you would make a good judge of who is or isn't a respectable person.

Says the person who supports harming people and destroying property for no valid reason. 

Hmm, I feel like that's incorrect. Perhaps there is a problem with your judgment?

[lfromnj]

If his most loved one doesn't want the riots then why should anyone else be out there rioting? She was the biggest victim of this murder
No one's voice is being unheard besides her right now.

[CellarDoor]

If his most loved one doesn't want the riots then why should anyone else be out there rioting? She was the biggest victim of this murder
No one's voice is being unheard besides her right now.

Can you stop pretending that the protests/riots are in response to a singular incident?  This is the result of decades of injustice and inaction. 

[T'Chenka]

Force needs to be applied to curb the actions of the criminals that are looting and destroying businesses, how much economic damage is being inflicted upon normal business owners as a result of these riots. As for the issue of Floyd, it's clear the police attracts some sadists and when you have hundreds of thousands of police officers, you will get a few sadists who enjoy causing pain and killing people, its unfortunate but inevitable, the only solution is a trial for the police officer who was involved with killing Floyd.

ok sauron

So... the angry anarchy mob can just do whatever they want and they can't be met with force? Defending your home, business and family members from pitchforks and torches makes you Sauron now?

To be clear, I am VERY MUCH with these protestors on this unjustified killing. A destructive violent mob and protestors are two different things though. One understands right/wrong and processes logic and reason, the other does not.

This isn't Canada, fam.

"Peaceful" protests have failed time and time again. Is this the right answer? Almost certainly not but it isn't unreasonable for desperate times to call for desperate measures. People are already on their last legs due to the pandemic, it's the perfect storm.

When a mob evolves into a violent mob and then eventually into anarchy, there is literally no organization where the rioters can come together and accomplish anything constructive in the way that protestors could. The only thing anarchy can try and succeed to accomplish is... anarchy. Nothing that helps race relations or brings justice for this travesty can be accomplished by anarchy.

I understand that. Decrying certain behaviors doesn't create a solution, though. What is the fix, and when? This issue isn't going to go away without action.

I wish I had the answers.

I do know though - and this is PURELY hypoethetical - that if that angry mob had gone from precinct to precinct and destroyed every police behicle they saw (including parked helicopters) and burned down every police station in the entire city, that might have been a violent and destructive response that I could get maybe behind and it might have led to something good in the long run. What's happening right now is NOT that. It's literal anarchy with no rhyme or reason. Innocent people's homes, businesses, vehicles are being stolen / destroyed and apparently some innocent people are being harmed. I'm not sure you understand how DEEPLY f___ed up anarchy can become. I hope that the number of rapes and murders end up being minimal or zero by the end of this.

[SevenEleven]

this murder

Um, hate to break it you but this issue is a lot bigger than one incident. Rodney King came out and spoke against the riots as well. When justice isn't served, we are all victims.

[John Dule]

Yeah this is insane. George Floyd would be aghast to see this happening.

Keep his name and what he would feel out of your mouth, you don't know.

No respectable person would support what is happening.

I'm not sure you would make a good judge of who is or isn't a respectable person.

Says the person who supports harming people and destroying property for no valid reason. 

As a principled libertarian, I support the destruction of government property but not private property.

[SevenEleven]

Force needs to be applied to curb the actions of the criminals that are looting and destroying businesses, how much economic damage is being inflicted upon normal business owners as a result of these riots. As for the issue of Floyd, it's clear the police attracts some sadists and when you have hundreds of thousands of police officers, you will get a few sadists who enjoy causing pain and killing people, its unfortunate but inevitable, the only solution is a trial for the police officer who was involved with killing Floyd.

ok sauron

So... the angry anarchy mob can just do whatever they want and they can't be met with force? Defending your home, business and family members from pitchforks and torches makes you Sauron now?

To be clear, I am VERY MUCH with these protestors on this unjustified killing. A destructive violent mob and protestors are two different things though. One understands right/wrong and processes logic and reason, the other does not.

This isn't Canada, fam.

"Peaceful" protests have failed time and time again. Is this the right answer? Almost certainly not but it isn't unreasonable for desperate times to call for desperate measures. People are already on their last legs due to the pandemic, it's the perfect storm.

When a mob evolves into a violent mob and then eventually into anarchy, there is literally no organization where the rioters can come together and accomplish anything constructive in the way that protestors could. The only thing anarchy can try and succeed to accomplish is... anarchy. Nothing that helps race relations or brings justice for this travesty can be accomplished by anarchy.

I understand that. Decrying certain behaviors doesn't create a solution, though. What is the fix, and when? This issue isn't going to go away without action.

I wish I had the answers.

I do know though - and this is PURELY hypoethetical - that if that angry mob had gone from precinct to precinct and destroyed every police behicle they saw (including parked helicopters) and burned down every police station in the entire city, that might have been a violent and destructive response that I could get maybe behind and it might have led to something good in the long run. What's happening right now is NOT that. It's literal anarchy with no rhyme or reason. Innocent people's homes, businesses, vehicles are being stolen / destroyed and apparently some innocent people are being harmed. I'm not sure you understand how DEEPLY f___ed up anarchy can become. I hope that the number of rapes and murders end up being minimal or zero by the end of this.

Starting a war with cops isn't a viable solution for anyone.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I really hope no one dies tonight

From what I've heard it's already too late.

[erſatz-york]

Good on Gov. Walz for calling up the national guard. It may be necessary to call up more than 500 guardsmen, though.

[SevenEleven]

For anyone who can and will read.

[erſatz-york]

For anyone who can and will read.

OK, Twin Cities Bob.