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« Reply #1850 on: April 16, 2020, 06:44:48 PM »

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« Reply #1851 on: April 16, 2020, 06:51:02 PM »

Some potential good news, if this study is right.

Study of 1,200 cases claims that an overwhelming amount (80%) involved indoor transmission between family members, public transportation was involved in the second largest share (34%), but very little outdoor transmission.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1.full.pdf+html

Suggests while airborne transmission is possible, it is not the main source of transmission. The only problem I have with this study is potential selection effects. Cases are more likely to be connected to each other as part of a single outbreak if transmitted among family.
If this study was correct, then what would in general be the most common mode of transmission? People touching things?
It would be people living together at home, in close quarters.
So basically large numbers of people touching the same substances then? (Which is probably hand transmission by proxy?)
Yes, and droplet infection, like being nearby someone who is coughing and breathing in their large droplets (which is different from airborne, which is when the virus suspends in the air for a long period of time & can travel many meters).
So the difference between droplet infection and airborne is if I am sitting next to someone and this person exhaled, whereas it'd be airborne if they sneezed a  few times in a room with little airflow out of it and then a few hours later I arrived in the room and inhaled the air in it?

If this were verified it would mean the park/trail closures are highly counterproductive.
indeed, if this were the case, then we ought to open up the natural parks as soon as is feasible, given the updated science on the matter.
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« Reply #1852 on: April 16, 2020, 06:51:15 PM »



Lol, white people privilege
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« Reply #1853 on: April 16, 2020, 06:52:44 PM »



Lol, white people privilege

lol libs using a pandemic to further inflame racial tensions
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« Reply #1854 on: April 16, 2020, 06:55:14 PM »

Droplet is main transmission way, here are weeks expert tell so
touching items, where droplet landing, is a way but is not so easy and with the right prevention  measure, wash hand and not touch mouth, nose and eyes, is improbable
also if virus can stay also days on some surface at the right condition, it loss its viral load with the passage of time
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« Reply #1855 on: April 16, 2020, 06:58:32 PM »



Lol, white people privilege

lol libs using a pandemic to further inflame racial tensions

Liberals: Look at these racial disparities that hurt Americans of racial minorities! We should do something!
Hacks: wHY aRe yoU trYiNG to sTOkE rACIal TEnsIon!!11!!111!!!
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« Reply #1856 on: April 16, 2020, 06:59:27 PM »

can we not
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« Reply #1857 on: April 16, 2020, 07:00:43 PM »

impossible now, we’ve already crossed that line and back before the pandemic.
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« Reply #1858 on: April 16, 2020, 07:02:50 PM »

This country is a set of continued disappointments stitched together by brief blinks of dissipating hope. Sigh...
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« Reply #1859 on: April 16, 2020, 07:03:55 PM »

Droplet is main transmission way, here are weeks expert tell so
touching items, where droplet landing, is a way but is not so easy and with the right prevention  measure, wash hand and not touch mouth, nose and eyes, is improbable
also if virus can stay also days on some surface at the right condition, it loss its viral load with the passage of time
And what maximizes the survival chances if you DO have corona?
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« Reply #1860 on: April 16, 2020, 07:11:59 PM »

Droplet is main transmission way, here are weeks expert tell so
touching items, where droplet landing, is a way but is not so easy and with the right prevention  measure, wash hand and not touch mouth, nose and eyes, is improbable
also if virus can stay also days on some surface at the right condition, it loss its viral load with the passage of time
And what maximizes the survival chances if you DO have corona?

Afaik call the ambulance, and hope they came, not too late, in other words a hospitalization before of the disease it's too advanced, unlucky i'm not a physician i can't tell you when it's too late, sometimes expert tell when oxygenation is go down 95%
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« Reply #1861 on: April 16, 2020, 07:14:07 PM »

I don't understand why Trump is so resistant to increasing testing.  This is by far the easiest avenue to a safe reopening.  And unlike continued lockdown, I don't see what the social or economic downside is.

The only thing I can think of is that he just want to look like he is doing something to address the virus, but actually wants to crises to continue as long as possible so he can have an excuse to try to cancel the election.
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« Reply #1862 on: April 16, 2020, 07:18:22 PM »

I don't understand why Trump is so resistant to increasing testing.  This is by far the easiest avenue to a safe reopening.  And unlike continued lockdown, I don't see what the social or economic downside is.

The only thing I can think of is that he just want to look like he is doing something to address the virus, but actually wants to crises to continue as long as possible so he can have an excuse to try to cancel the election.
I think the explanation is quite simple. He wants case numbers to be lower to rob his opponents of ammunition to claim he's doing a bad job. The simplest and easiest way to reduce the number of confirmed cases is to restrict testing.
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« Reply #1863 on: April 16, 2020, 07:28:41 PM »



Lol, white people privilege

lol libs using a pandemic to further inflame racial tensions

Liberals: Look at these racial disparities that hurt Americans of racial minorities! We should do something!
Hacks: wHY aRe yoU trYiNG to sTOkE rACIal TEnsIon!!11!!111!!!

Do you think everyone is not being hurt right now? Only clowns like you think that dividing the population during a pandemic will alleviate racial disparities. Try virtue signaling on twitter, you'll get a better response
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« Reply #1864 on: April 16, 2020, 07:30:21 PM »



Lol, white people privilege

lol libs using a pandemic to further inflame racial tensions

Liberals: Look at these racial disparities that hurt Americans of racial minorities! We should do something!
Hacks: wHY aRe yoU trYiNG to sTOkE rACIal TEnsIon!!11!!111!!!

Do you think everyone is not being hurt right now? Only clowns like you think that dividing the population during a pandemic will alleviate racial disparities.

Your trolling is boring and unfunny.
Try harder.
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« Reply #1865 on: April 16, 2020, 07:32:29 PM »
« Edited: April 16, 2020, 07:35:42 PM by yfnlucci »



Lol, white people privilege

lol libs using a pandemic to further inflame racial tensions

Liberals: Look at these racial disparities that hurt Americans of racial minorities! We should do something!
Hacks: wHY aRe yoU trYiNG to sTOkE rACIal TEnsIon!!11!!111!!!

Do you think everyone is not being hurt right now? Only clowns like you think that dividing the population during a pandemic will alleviate racial disparities.

Your trolling is boring and unfunny.
Try harder.

clown.
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« Reply #1866 on: April 16, 2020, 07:34:41 PM »
« Edited: April 16, 2020, 07:38:31 PM by Forumlurker »



Lol, white people privilege

lol libs using a pandemic to further inflame racial tensions

Liberals: Look at these racial disparities that hurt Americans of racial minorities! We should do something!
Hacks: wHY aRe yoU trYiNG to sTOkE rACIal TEnsIon!!11!!111!!!

Do you think everyone is not being hurt right now? Only clowns like you think that dividing the population during a pandemic will alleviate racial disparities.

Your trolling is boring and unfunny.
Try harder.

The hacks all band together! Also you're a foreign bad faith actor - shouldn't you worry about your  greece defaulting on its debt again
Your comments are about as relevant as your vote as a Republican in California.
Oh, and nice job modifying your post quickly, at least you were smart enough to do that.
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« Reply #1867 on: April 16, 2020, 07:36:35 PM »

This country is a set of continued disappointments stitched together by brief blinks of dissipating hope. Sigh...

I think I need to add this to my signature.
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« Reply #1868 on: April 16, 2020, 07:38:20 PM »



Lol, white people privilege

lol libs using a pandemic to further inflame racial tensions

Liberals: Look at these racial disparities that hurt Americans of racial minorities! We should do something!
Hacks: wHY aRe yoU trYiNG to sTOkE rACIal TEnsIon!!11!!111!!!

Do you think everyone is not being hurt right now? Only clowns like you think that dividing the population during a pandemic will alleviate racial disparities.

Your trolling is boring and unfunny.
Try harder.

The hacks all band together! Also you're a foreign bad faith actor - shouldn't you worry about your  greece defaulting on its debt again
Your comments are about as relevant as the California GOP you represent.
Oh, and nice job modifying your post quickly, at least you were smart enough to do that.

The rats truly come out of the woodwork now. Bro we're both posing on the same political forum - do you think either of our opinions are relevant you clown
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« Reply #1869 on: April 16, 2020, 07:41:11 PM »

Someone seems determined to go out with guns blazing.
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« Reply #1870 on: April 16, 2020, 07:41:23 PM »



Lol, white people privilege

lol libs using a pandemic to further inflame racial tensions

Liberals: Look at these racial disparities that hurt Americans of racial minorities! We should do something!
Hacks: wHY aRe yoU trYiNG to sTOkE rACIal TEnsIon!!11!!111!!!

Do you think everyone is not being hurt right now? Only clowns like you think that dividing the population during a pandemic will alleviate racial disparities.

Your trolling is boring and unfunny.
Try harder.

The hacks all band together! Also you're a foreign bad faith actor - shouldn't you worry about your  greece defaulting on its debt again
Your comments are about as relevant as the California GOP you represent.
Oh, and nice job modifying your post quickly, at least you were smart enough to do that.

The rats truly come out of the woodwork now. Bro we're both posing on the same political forum - do you think either of our opinions are relevant you clown
Do you know any insults other than clown? I would love to know!
Look, I don’t even disagree with your sentiment that it’s not about race (looks like it could be more tied to income) But you come off as a clown (as you would put it) right now.
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« Reply #1871 on: April 16, 2020, 07:42:54 PM »

This country is a set of continued disappointments stitched together by brief blinks of dissipating hope. Sigh...

I think I need to add this to my signature.

Go ahead!
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« Reply #1872 on: April 16, 2020, 07:43:13 PM »

Just some friendly advice...when your tension gets too high on a thread, it's a good idea to step away for a bit.  Take a break and watch a video or something. Smiley
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« Reply #1873 on: April 16, 2020, 07:45:42 PM »

Remdesivir major result today is positive from a sample of 125 severe patients in Chicago. I have a good feeling about this drug.

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« Reply #1874 on: April 16, 2020, 07:49:00 PM »
« Edited: April 16, 2020, 07:52:39 PM by Forumlurker »

In other news, the Colorado GOP minority leader reached out to Jared Polis in a bipartisan and civil manner, to combat the virus which has already killed hundreds of Coloradans. I love the #moderate Colorado GOP.
Oh wait, he compared Polis’s stay-at-home order to the Gestapo.
{https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2020/04/15/jared-polis-colorado-stay-home-order-nazism/amp/

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https://www.9news.com/mobile/article/news/local/next/polis-emotionally-responds-to-comparison-between-nazism-and-stay-home-orders/73-19f93892-0653-4222-9e8c-356ff83c9580
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