Tara Reade Biden allegation megathread

[Woody]

https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1256340856010764288

Those are excellent numbers. The GOP needs to spam attack ads 24/7 with Biden cuddling with women/demand the release of the UoD documents. They need to go scorched-earth on Biden. Everything they did against Kavanaugh needs to be done against Biden.

You realize you party's nominee is accused by multiple women with more credibility? And that he's on tape bragging about assault?

Your side started this with Kavanaugh/Moore. You took Alabama, so it's only reasonable that we take the Presidency for another 4 years. Also, we will be ruthless when it comes this, do you honestly think Trump supporters will let Biden get away this/care about Trump's accusers?

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1256340856010764288

Those are excellent numbers. The GOP needs to spam attack ads 24/7 with Biden cuddling with women/demand the release of the UoD documents. They need to go scorched-earth on Biden. Everything they did against Kavanaugh needs to be done against Biden.

You realize you party's nominee is accused by multiple women with more credibility? And that he's on tape bragging about assault?

Your side started this with Kavanaugh/Moore. You took Alabama, so it's only reasonable that we take the Presidency for another 4 years. Also, we will be ruthless when it comes this, do you honestly think Trump supporters will let Biden get away this/care about Trump's accusers?

Apples and oranges. Accusations against Kavanaugh were more serious and credible, let alone Trump and Moore. But of course the Trumpist base is comfortable with this kind of stuff and prove to be hypocrites.

But given it's so obvious this is a hoax, Biden will beat Trump like a drum on November 3.

[JRP1994]

I haven't seen a fall this precipitous since someone forgot to put guard rails on Bob Dole's stage

[wbrocks67]

I'm confused now. First she tweets that she did a formal complaint involving sexual harrassment. Then she says the complaint only dealt with harrassment/uncomfortableness. Now she's saying that she never wrote a formal complaint?

[BudgieForce]

Unrelated, but i'm surprised that a Biden defense force has been forming on social media. A good chunk of which is from the K-Hive. I know Biden wont consider something like this when he picks his VP, but its helped me warm up to the idea of a VP Harris.

[GeneralMacArthur]

The same folks who "believe" Joe Biden and are suggesting "vetting" of Reade's accusation are the same folks who condemned vetting of Blasey Ford's accusation; they wanted Blasey Ford's to be taken at face value, without critique.

This is such BS.  We wanted Ford's allegation to be vetted.  We wanted an investigation.  It was the Republicans who didn't want an investigation.

Eventually the media pressure became too much and Jeff Flake forced a one-week FBI investigation.  But the Trump administration stonewalled the investigation and put so many restrictions on it that it couldn't possibly have found anything.  Democrats cried foul because we wanted an investigation.  We wanted to know whether the story was true or false!  Now we will never know, because the Republicans prevented a real investigation from happening.

This is such a monstrous re-writing of history.  Joe Biden wants a full investigation with complete transparency so his name can be cleared.  Kavanaugh didn't want any investigation at all.

[GeneralMacArthur]

I'm confused now. First she tweets that she did a formal complaint involving sexual harrassment. Then she says the complaint only dealt with harrassment/uncomfortableness. Now she's saying that she never wrote a formal complaint?

She's lying.  Does that make you less confused?

[wbrocks67]

Like I'm not going crazy here, right? She's changed her story of what this complaint entailed like 5 times?

[JRP1994]

Team Biden today:

https://twitter.com/Maradancing/status/1213418243303624704

[DrScholl]

https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1256340856010764288

Those are excellent numbers. The GOP needs to spam attack ads 24/7 with Biden cuddling with women/demand the release of the UoD documents. They need to go scorched-earth on Biden. Everything they did against Kavanaugh needs to be done against Biden.

You realize you party's nominee is accused by multiple women with more credibility? And that he's on tape bragging about assault?

Your side started this with Kavanaugh/Moore. You took Alabama, so it's only reasonable that we take the Presidency for another 4 years. Also, we will be ruthless when it comes this, do you honestly think Trump supporters will let Biden get away this/care about Trump's accusers?

Nobody took Alabama, the voters just opted not to vote for Roy Moore. Is this krazen? This reads a lot like one of that person's posts.

[JRP1994]

https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1256340856010764288

Those are excellent numbers. The GOP needs to spam attack ads 24/7 with Biden cuddling with women/demand the release of the UoD documents. They need to go scorched-earth on Biden. Everything they did against Kavanaugh needs to be done against Biden.

You realize you party's nominee is accused by multiple women with more credibility? And that he's on tape bragging about assault?

Your side started this with Kavanaugh/Moore. You took Alabama, so it's only reasonable that we take the Presidency for another 4 years. Also, we will be ruthless when it comes this, do you honestly think Trump supporters will let Biden get away this/care about Trump's accusers?

Nobody took Alabama, the voters just opted not to vote for Roy Moore. Is this krazen? This reads a lot like one of that person's posts.

The voters said no thank you to a theocratic wingnut who was twice removed from the bench for defying the Supreme Court and credibly accused of being a pedophile, because they had an opportunity to vote for a civil rights lawyer who prosecuted the KKK.

[wbrocks67]

On March 31, Reade says in an interview (https://web.archive.org/web/20200331050720/https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/03/tara-reade-tells-her-story/)

Tara:

I actually did come forward in 1993 but not to the press. But I went through protocol and complained.

Katie:

What was your complaint about?

Tara:

Sexual harassment.


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And now she's saying there was no formal complaint and what she did complain about had nothing to do with assault OR harrassment.

[ugabug]

Chris Hayes devastated.  Fire his Bernie Bro ass.

What did he do?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

https://medium.com/@macarthur.cliff/the-tara-reade-case-eight-things-the-media-wont-tell-you-27d3ca14978

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/02/21-reasons-not-to-believe-christine-blasey-fords-claims-about-justice-kavanaugh/

One article gives reasons to not believe Tara Reade.  The other gives reasons not to believe Blasey Ford.  I'd really like to know why the reasons not to believe Reade are so much more compelling than the reasons not to believe Blasey Ford.

If we're going to pick and choose who we believe and who we don't, it ought to be on something more than the color their avatar would be if they posted here, or of whose favorite candidate would be hurt if the allegations were true.

[GeneralMacArthur]

https://medium.com/@macarthur.cliff/the-tara-reade-case-eight-things-the-media-wont-tell-you-27d3ca14978

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/02/21-reasons-not-to-believe-christine-blasey-fords-claims-about-justice-kavanaugh/

One article gives reasons to not believe Tara Reade.  The other gives reasons not to believe Blasey Ford.  I'd really like to know why the reasons not to believe Reade are so much more compelling than the reasons not to believe Blasey Ford.

If we're going to pick and choose who we believe and who we don't, it ought to be on something more than the color their avatar would be if they posted here, or of whose favorite candidate would be hurt if the allegations were true.

Most of that "21 reasons" Federalist article is just rehashing the USA Today article, but breaking each point up into more points to make it look bigger.

For instance there's 4 points about Leland Keyser saying she doesn't remember the rape.  There's like seven points about Ford not remembering various details.  Several of the points aren't really points at all, like "Ford only named Kavanaugh in 2012, when he was a national figure" as if Ford was playing the long con for six years, or speculation about memory manipulation.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Somewhere in America, Chris Hayes is probably crying in a bathroom right now.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/1256652879533944832

https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/1256646480569544710

[Hindsight was 2020]

I’m starting to think this Reade allegation is............a bunch of malarkey

[ugabug]

Like I'm not going crazy here, right? She's changed her story of what this complaint entailed like 5 times?

And yet somehow she's supposed to be more believable than Blasey Ford.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Somewhere in America, Chris Hayes is probably crying in bathroom right now.

You mean Chris Matthew's whom was so pro Biden

[7,052,770]

https://medium.com/@macarthur.cliff/the-tara-reade-case-eight-things-the-media-wont-tell-you-27d3ca14978

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/02/21-reasons-not-to-believe-christine-blasey-fords-claims-about-justice-kavanaugh/

One article gives reasons to not believe Tara Reade.  The other gives reasons not to believe Blasey Ford.  I'd really like to know why the reasons not to believe Reade are so much more compelling than the reasons not to believe Blasey Ford.

If we're going to pick and choose who we believe and who we don't, it ought to be on something more than the color their avatar would be if they posted here, or of whose favorite candidate would be hurt if the allegations were true.

As stated on this thread already many times, Reade claims to have told so many people on Capitol Hill over the years (though she's walked that back in the last few days) about the assault, or at least about harassment, but aside from her wishy-washy neighbor, none of them remember it and they all totally deny it. If Reade is telling the truth, there is a huge conspiracy (remember, she says she was blackballed from working from other offices because of her accusation) of people who kept silent throughout Biden's 2008 and 2020 primary campaigns, his 2008 and 2012 VP campaigns, all the vetting and oppo research, and even now when it's a big national news story. Such a huge, extensive coverup, and for 27 years not one of them ever flipped, slipped up, decided to not like Biden, or even tipped off the Obama vetters.

To believe Reade means believing in a huge conspiracy. To believe Reade means handwaving away how many times she's changed her story (not minor nitpicks, but huge details) just in the past few weeks.

It's true that Ford didn't provide any physical evidence like Reade, but at least she told a consistent story that doesn't require a huge conspiracy. Kavanaugh was never subject to the extreme vetting and oppo research during his lower court confirmations, and she doesn't claim to have told anyone who would have been asked during a vetting anyway.

So yes the direct evidence that Ford and Reade presented for their claims were similarly light, there is a huge, huge level of mental gymnastics/conspiracizing that has to be done to believe Reade (well, after settling on which Reade story you want to believe) that doesn't have to be done for Ford.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1256646184178978816

[Lief 🗽]

Biden is a good man and will take the high road here, but it's increasingly clear that he should sue this dishonest woman for defamation.

[Alben Barkley]

Ryan Grim, Nathan Robinson, The Intercept, and the rest of that crowd should never be taking seriously again.

I would go farther than that. If I were Biden, I would sue Nathan Robinson in particular for libel. By his own admission, he pressed these "witnesses" into providing false "corroboration" by coaching them into recalling conversations that never happened. He clearly and deliberately set out to destroy Biden, facts and truth be damned. When the actual facts and truth were inconvenient, he fabricated his own. He knowingly published falsehoods with the intent to harm someone's reputation. That's textbook libel. There is a very strong case for it if Biden wanted to go down that road. Politically it may not be the best option but in terms of justice it certainly would be.

[roxas11]

wow

Tara Reade Biden allegation are imploding right before our very eyes

I called it yesterday when I said that Biden was smart to call her buff and asked the national archives to look for her complaint.

Now she is changing her story again and is claiming that she never filed the complaint and even if she did it would not even Bring up harassment or assault

and see why she canceled that fox news interview because chris wallace was going to a rip her to pieces. Now even if she tries to do another interview People are going to ask her some very tough questions.


I Have to say that many in the left especially Chris hayes owes Biden and his Wife an apology for hyping this trash in the first place. they ought to be ashamed of themselves and lost all respect for Chris Hayes

he is a disgrace for almost ruining a good man name simply because he wanted to push this BS