Super Tuesday Results Thread

[GoTfan]

All you so-called Sanders supporters who are saying you'll vote for Trump, you can get out of our camp right this instant.

[Harvey Updyke Jr🌹]

Hell, Hillary Clinton using a non completely brain-dead campaign strategy of ignoring Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin almost entirely in favor of places like Texas and New Orleans, could have been would have won Electoral College, having beaten Trump by millions of votes.

It only looks that way in hindsight. She was well ahead in all those states until the last week. (Which also suggests campaigning in them might not have done anything.)

If she campaigned in them, and not Texas, and still lost, but was within a few points in Texas, you'd probably criticize her for not campaigning there.

Um, no? If she won the election I wouldn't give a damn if she lost Texas, because I'm not an idiot.

No if she lost the election.

When someone runs a campaign like that and whines up losing by a fraction of a percentage point in three crucial states that till the election despite winning the popular vote by 3 million, one can genuinely place a lot of that defeat on Tactical stupidity.

Yeah maybe. But none of us knows what would have happened if she shifted resources to those states. Maybe she loses Colorado and Virginia instead. 538 had Trump pretty consistently with a ~30% chance to win in the last month, well above Romney & McCain. No matter how it happened, there'd be room for criticism.

LMFAO.  no no no.  you have it all wrong.  she almost lost Virginia because she PULLED OUT of both Virginia and Colorado in early October due to feeling so confident about them.  Her campaign strategy was helmed by a literal imbecile f**kup (who then went on to f**k up the Iowa voter app 4 years later).

People like Mook continue to find employment among the party establishment despite being complete failures at basic logic because the same people continue to stay in power and they only care about the resume, not the result.

Now this is going to blow your mind... Guess what kind of people made the call to put the party apparatus and media narrative directly behind Biden to anoint him as the presumptive nominee? The people who keep hiring morons like Robby Mook.

[Calthrina950]

Biden's margin is getting pretty large in Texas.  I don't see how Bernie spins this.  He lost MA, MN, might lose ME, is losing TX.  Lost the South by a wide margin.  I suppose if Warren stays in it they could deny Biden enough delegates, but I'm not seeing a path for Bernie to actually have the most delegates.

I'm amazed by the power of Amy Klobuchar in Minnesota. She delivered her home state to Biden on a silver platter, which should put to rest any doubts that she would have lost it had she not dropped out. And it appears that Klobuchar and Buttigieg gave Biden the support that he needed to beat both Sanders and Warren in Massachusetts.

Not only that, but she delivered it in TWO DAYS.

This much is true. The same ABC News exit poll I referred to above stated that Klobuchar had a 76% approval rating with Democratic primary voters in her state, and it is clear (to use one of her frequently repeated campaign boasts), that she is the most electorally formidable politician in the state, since she has consistently run ahead of all other statewide Democrats.

[BlueSwan]

Just waking up to this.

- extremely impressive showing by Uncle Joe, especially if you consider that much of the early voting took place way before his comeback.

- the fact that Bernie has great trouble breaking 30% outside of Vermont should tell his supporters that this is no conspiracy, his appeal just isn’t as broad as you would like it to be. On the other hand, even a weakened Uncle Joe seems to easily break 50% in his stronger states.

- this was decided by actual voters, no conspiracy theories, please.

- Uncle Joe might be a weak candidate overall, but people LIKE him, which is a major contrast to Donald Trump and a major contrast to Hillary Clinton. Any rational person would prefer him as president over the orange tyrant. He was never my favourite, but I can get behind him and so should everybody else on our side.

[Non Swing Voter]

It's interesting how the map is filling in by region.  It's clear that the West is decisively becoming the most liberal area of the country.  The south is becoming an area where the democrats are obviously much more moderate but their power is growing.  It will be interesting to see how Michigan and Wisconsin vote.  

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden is the nominee. After Cali is counted, Biden will have 25 delegates and MS, LA, GA and FL coming up to offset IL and MI and WI, the math isnt there for Bernie

[BlueSwan]

OK, so I’m gonna use caps lock now to indicate that I am indeed shouting:

WE ARE NOT CONSOLIDATING BEHIND BIDEN TO AVOID BERNIE. WE ARE CONSOLIDATING BEHIND BIDEN TO AVOID TRUMP!

This is a very important distiction. Now carry on.

[Calthrina950]

Just waking up to this.

- extremely impressive showing by Uncle Joe, especially if you consider that much of the early voting took place way before his comeback.

- the fact that Bernie has great trouble breaking 30% outside of Vermont should tell his supporters that this is no conspiracy, his appeal just isn’t as broad as you would like it to be. On the other hand, even a weakened Uncle Joe seems to easily break 50% in his stronger states.

- this was decided by actual voters, no conspiracy theories, please.

- Uncle Joe might be a weak candidate overall, but people LIKE him, which is a major contrast to Donald Trump and a major contrast to Hillary Clinton. Any rational person would prefer him as president over the orange tyrant. He was never my favourite, but I can get behind him and so should everybody else on our side.

Sanders received a absolute majority only in his home state of Vermont. Biden got an absolute majority in Virginia, and won Alabama with over 60% of the vote, by far making it his strongest state of the night. And he beat Sanders by wide margins in all of the other Southern states except for Texas. It's clear that Southern black voters are unshakably in Biden's corner, just like they were for Hillary Clinton. They are an Achilles heel for Sanders that he has never been able to overcome.

[President Johnson]

I'm waking up and seeing this. Just wow. Uncle Joe, what a comeback!

Even though I'm very happy about Joe Biden, I'm not going to express any malicious joy over Bernie's supporters. Joe hasn't the nomination yet, although he's regained his status as frontrunner. To the Bernie fans, I'm saying you should be welcome to participate and argue over issues in a civilzed manner. Let's all take Trump down together regardless who the nominee is. If Joe Biden is elected president, he should have an open to door and work together with Bernie to improve people's lives. There is more that unites Biden and Bernie supporters at the end of the day.

[Vern]

Trump is going to destroy Biden.

Below is your brilliant prognostication from this morning on how you thought Super Tuesday would turn out to be....


"Bloomberg wins OK, AR and TN
Biden wins VA and AL
Sanders wins all other states."

That was wishful thinking..

Sanders is the only hope dems have to beat trump. Biden Half the time can’t even get a coherent thought out.

[emailking]

Well, if you're trying to argue that nominating Biden repeats the mistake of nominating Clinton, you really should.

Oh. I wasn't trying to argue that.

[Hnv1]

So as I see it, Bernie just lost his change to a plurality let alone majority right?

[Harvey Updyke Jr🌹]

For those of you who don't think Biden represents where the Democratic Party is right now, and he's from a different time, etc.  Think of it this way.  Trump is a huge problem.  We need to get rid of him immediately.  Biden is a temporary solution.  There is a lot of time for a next generation to take the reigns but right now we need Trump gone before he does more damage.

Yea... we tried that last time.  It didn't work out too well.

We're doing it our way this time.

So you're giving us 4 more years of Trump. Got it.

No.  You are.  We told you this like 80 million times already.  Yet the bosses still went nuclear.  

So now we run the risk of going into the general with a completely uninspiring candidate whose liabilities are way beyond being labeled a "socialist."

It's not f**king rocket science.  Trump won in 2016 because people wanted to show up to vote for him in 2016.  If the GOP pulled the same sh**t that the Dems (read: Obama) just did, Hillary would have likely won the general because she'd have been facing Ted freaking Cruz or some bland ghoul.  

If you were seriously expecting the Sanders people to not be completely turned off by pulling this sh**t, you're either out of your mind or out of touch.

[emailking]

LMFAO.  no no no.  you have it all wrong.  she almost lost Virginia because she PULLED OUT of both Virginia and Colorado in early October due to feeling so confident about them.  Her campaign strategy was helmed by a literal imbecile f**kup (who then went on to f**k up the Iowa voter app 4 years later).

People like Mook continue to find employment among the party establishment despite being complete failures at basic logic because the same people continue to stay in power and they only care about the resume, not the result.

Now this is going to blow your mind... Guess what kind of people made the call to put the party apparatus and media narrative directly behind Biden to anoint him as the presumptive nominee? The people who keep hiring morons like Robby Mook.

Oh thank you. You've completely changed my mind on this.

[Harvey Updyke Jr🌹]

So as I see it, Bernie just lost his change to a plurality let alone majority right?

No.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Bernie loss just verifies the 278 EC map. Black voters arent gonna be the majority in the South in Nov, and Latinos are in coalition, WI will be the tipping point race, and Biden have to talk to media to clear up Hunter Biden

Cali is gonna come in landslide for Biden and CO and NV

[BlueSwan]

I'm waking up and seeing this. Just wow. Uncle Joe, what a comeback!

Even though I'm very happy about Joe Biden, I'm not going to express any malicious joy over Bernie's supporters. Joe hasn't the nomination yet, although he's regained his status as frontrunner. To the Bernie fans, I'm saying you should be welcome to participate and argue over issues in a civilzed manner. Let's all take Trump down together regardless who the nominee is. If Joe Biden is elected president, he should have an open to door and work together with Bernie to improve people's lives. There is more that unites Biden and Bernie supporters at the end of the day.

I agree.

Bernie fans. Of course there is room for you in the party. The party is swinging to the left. Your guy can still win, but if he doesn’t, please stay with us and help us kick out the orange tyrant in november, just like people like me will get behind Bernie should he win this in the end.

[Non Swing Voter]

OK, so I’m gonna use caps lock now to indicate that I am indeed shouting:

WE ARE NOT CONSOLIDATING BEHIND BIDEN TO AVOID BERNIE. WE ARE CONSOLIDATING BEHIND BIDEN TO AVOID TRUMP!

This is a very important distiction. Now carry on.

[Matty]

Maine goes to biden

[Non Swing Voter]

The Bernie loss just verifies the 278 EC map. Black voters arent gonna be the majority in the South in Nov, and Latinos are in coalition, WI will be the tipping point race, and Biden have to talk to media to clear up Hunter Biden

Cali is gonna come in landslide for Biden and CO and NC

The surge in the black vote suggests Biden could win Florida.

[Harvey Updyke Jr🌹]

Just waking up to this.

- extremely impressive showing by Uncle Joe, especially if you consider that much of the early voting took place way before his comeback.

- the fact that Bernie has great trouble breaking 30% outside of Vermont should tell his supporters that this is no conspiracy, his appeal just isn’t as broad as you would like it to be. On the other hand, even a weakened Uncle Joe seems to easily break 50% in his stronger states.

- this was decided by actual voters, no conspiracy theories, please.

- Uncle Joe might be a weak candidate overall, but people LIKE him, which is a major contrast to Donald Trump and a major contrast to Hillary Clinton. Any rational person would prefer him as president over the orange tyrant. He was never my favourite, but I can get behind him and so should everybody else on our side.

Sanders received a absolute majority only in his home state of Vermont. Biden got an absolute majority in Virginia, and won Alabama with over 60% of the vote, by far making it his strongest state of the night. And he beat Sanders by wide margins in all of the other Southern states except for Texas. It's clear that Southern black voters are unshakably in Biden's corner, just like they were for Hillary Clinton. They are an Achilles heel for Sanders that he has never been able to overcome.

And latinos love Sanders.  Why does Biden have such a big latino problem?  It's such a huge weak spot that he hasn't been able to overcome...

[T'Chenka]

I was ready compromise and get behind Biden, but seeing all this "haha suck it Bernie Bros you're all losers" is convincing me more and more that there is no room for progressives in the Democratic Party.

There literally hasn’t been that much of that at all? And anyone who IS doing that is an idiot. I’m a Biden supporter who supported Bernie in 2016. I was crushed when he lost. I enthusiastically supported Hillary and my views have changed a bit, but I would never make fun of someone who’s candidate isn’t doing well. People poured their hearts into Bernie and I know how that feels. It sucks

Next time they hold a Sanders rally in your district, DON'T go to it.

The Bern is dead. Bury it. (Consider this mercy.)

Illini Moderate, we got another one

Lol. I was mocking Biden voters for being over-confident and counting their eggs before they hatch, but I knew that would only be apparent to a few posters.

[soundchaser]

Seriously, what “sh**t” did the party pull to make Sanders lose most of the states this evening? He obviously doesn’t have the appeal he needed to, not just in the South but in the Midwest and New England. Hell, he’s barely getting a majority of the vote *in Vermont.* I was a Sanders supporter in 2016, and will probably vote for him in the LA primary, but he’s not getting screwed out of the nomination. Biden is (bafflingly) popular with a broad coalition, and he won tonight fair and square.

[BlueSwan]

For those of you who don't think Biden represents where the Democratic Party is right now, and he's from a different time, etc.  Think of it this way.  Trump is a huge problem.  We need to get rid of him immediately.  Biden is a temporary solution.  There is a lot of time for a next generation to take the reigns but right now we need Trump gone before he does more damage.

Yea... we tried that last time.  It didn't work out too well.

We're doing it our way this time.

So you're giving us 4 more years of Trump. Got it.

No.  You are.  We told you this like 80 million times already.  Yet the bosses still went nuclear.  

So now we run the risk of going into the general with a completely uninspiring candidate whose liabilities are way beyond being labeled a "socialist."

It's not f**king rocket science.  Trump won in 2016 because people wanted to show up to vote for him in 2016.  If the GOP pulled the same sh**t that the Dems (read: Obama) just did, Hillary would have likely won the general because she'd have been facing Ted freaking Cruz or some bland ghoul.  

If you were seriously expecting the Sanders people to not be completely turned off by pulling this sh**t, you're either out of your mind or out of touch.

This was decided by the voters, not by the party.

Bernie has trouble breaking 30%. You can only win a primary with those numbers in a strongly divided field. It’s not rocket science.

[ProudModerate2]

Call me skeptical but I am not so sure CA is in the bag for Bernie

I kept doubting you about how Texas could be won by Biden (the last 2 hours or so).
Now, I will not doubt what you are saying about California.

Nah, Bernie will take CA.

However, it'll be a much more anemic win than anyone would've guessed only days ago, and more importantly, a much weaker win than Bernie needs at this point to stay truly competitive.

You are probably right.
If Biden can close within 5%, then that would be big for Joe.