NV Caucus Results Thread (doors close at 2 CT)

[Florida Man for Crime]

Of course the real issue was Sanders voters not showing up or throwing away their votes on Jill Stein, letting Trump win with a minority.

Hillary Clinton lost despite having the most votes because of the electoral college, not because of Sanders or third party voters. In a sensible and democratic election system, Clinton would have been President, and she did not need a single additional vote for that to be the case.

[Devout Centrist]

There is no way in hell I will vote for Bernie if he is the Dem nominee, even if I am somehow living in a battleground state by then

Very sad that Bernie Sanders can't win the OLD SCHOOL REPUBLICAN vote. Terrible sign of things to come.

[KaiserDave]

Looks like Bernie is the guy

Obviously I will 100% support him in the general, with gusto

But I might be more enthusiastic if he moderated a bit, some of these spending pledges are a bit uhhh, not gonna happen.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of Bernie
His victory over the orange man shall stretch from sea to shining sea
He fights for people everywhere, people just like you and me
His truth is marching on!
Glory, glory hallelujah
Glory, glory hallelujah
Glory, glory hallelujah
His truth is marching on!

Do you know what scansion is, BRTD?

No actually.

It's the aspect of poetry that give it a meter or a "beat". For example, you might remember from high school English that a lot of Shakespeare is in iambic pentameter--each line has five "feet" consisting of one unstressed syllable followed by one stressed syllable (as in "But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?" or "That rounds the mortal temples of a king"). "Amazing Grace" can be (if one so chooses) sung to the tune of the Pokemon theme song because both are in "common meter"--one line of four iambs alternating with one line of three iambs. Many of Lewis Carroll's nonsense poems employ anapests, which is a foot consisting of two unstressed syllables followed by a stressed syllable.

The verses of the Battle Hymn of the Republic are in iambic heptameter, and snowclones of the hymn should ideally also be in iambic heptameter. Another iambic heptameter religious poem is Robert Southwell's "The Burning Babe":

    As I in heavey winter's night stood shivering in the snow,
    Surprised I was with sudden heat which made my heart to glow.

And so forth.

[OSR stands with Israel]

There is no way in hell I will vote for Bernie if he is the Dem nominee, even if I am somehow living in a battleground state by then

Somebody like you voting for the Democratic Party means it has long since died, intellectually and otherwise.

No If Trump wasnt Trump, I would not be voting Dem this year. I would vote to reelect a professional and well behaved Trump(Which of course then Trump wouldnt be Trump) and this year because Trump digusts me so much , I will vote for Bide/Bloomberg//Pete/Amy but there is no way in hell Im gonna vote for Bernie.


Bernie disgusts me a lot as well and there is no way in hell I would vote for that socialist

[Storr]

Bernie's currently speaking in San Antonio. It tells you his campaign felt he was going to be fine in Nevada that he spent the day of the Caucus in a different state.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Of course the real issue was Sanders voters not showing up or throwing away their votes on Jill Stein, letting Trump win with a minority.

Hillary Clinton lost despite having the most votes because of the electoral college, not because of Sanders or third party voters. In a sensible and democratic election system, Clinton would have been President, and she did not need a single additional vote for that to be the case.

Um no Clinton didnt win a majority of the popular vote. The Right Bloc in 2016 had more votes than the Left bloc did

[NOVA Green]

MSNBC is now projecting that Bernie will get 13/36 NV NTL delegates.... so far no ntl delegates for anybody else.

[Greedo punched first]

If Bernie wins California, who finishes second?

[jimrtex]

Is this an assembled caucus or firehouse primary?

Yes.

There was early voting where voters could go to any location within their county, and fill out a ranked ballot. It is not quite like a primary because the ballots are signed. These ballots are attributed back to their home precinct. It appears that turnout at early voting was higher than in person. Many people have better things to do than spend a Saturday afternoon arguing politics.

At the in-person caucuses, voters align in groups. The votes of the early voters are then distributed, and it is determined which groups are viable (generally 15% of the total).

Non-viable groups can realign. This is a bit murky. I think the in person voters can realign, and then the non-viable early voters are realigned based on their additional preferences. This is really mixing up two different things, since in-person voters can have a dynamic effect, where a voter might join a more enthusiastic group, while the early voters are locked in.

[Oryxslayer]

Has Warren spoke yet? I think it could be telling she's going last...

[Adam Griffin]

I would vote to reelect a professional and well behaved Trump

All you (or anybody in your party) needed to say really

[It’s so Joever]

There is no way in hell I will vote for Bernie if he is the Dem nominee, even if I am somehow living in a battleground state by then

Somebody like you voting for the Democratic Party means it has long since died, intellectually and otherwise.

So OSR should vote straight Republican and refuse to even consider Bernie?
Should I do the same since I obviously am in Fake Democrat territory?

[Storr]

Of course the real issue was Sanders voters not showing up or throwing away their votes on Jill Stein, letting Trump win with a minority.

Hillary Clinton lost despite having the most votes because of the electoral college, not because of Sanders or third party voters. In a sensible and democratic election system, Clinton would have been President, and she did not need a single additional vote for that to be the case.

Um no Clinton didnt win a majority of the popular vote. The Right Bloc in 2016 had more votes than the Left bloc did

"Left Bloc", where are we Europe? Whoever receives the most votes should win, period.  

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of Bernie
His victory over the orange man shall stretch from sea to shining sea
He fights for people everywhere, people just like you and me
His truth is marching on!
Glory, glory hallelujah
Glory, glory hallelujah
Glory, glory hallelujah
His truth is marching on!

Do you know what scansion is, BRTD?

No actually.

It's the aspect of poetry that give it a meter or a "beat". For example, you might remember from high school English that a lot of Shakespeare is in iambic pentameter--each line has five "feet" consisting of one unstressed syllable followed by one stressed syllable (as in "But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?" or "That rounds the mortal temples of a king"). "Amazing Grace" can be (if one so chooses) sung to the tune of the Pokemon theme song because both are in "common meter"--one line of four iambs alternating with one line of three iambs. Many of Lewis Carroll's nonsense poems employ dactyls, which is a foot consisting of a stressed syllable followed by two unstressed syllables.

The verses of the Battle Hymn of the Republic are in iambic heptameter, and snowclones of the hymn should ideally also be in iambic heptameter. Another iambic heptameter religious poem is Robert Southwell's "The Burning Babe":

    As I in heavey winter's night stood shivering in the snow,
    Surprised I was with sudden heat which made my heart to glow.

And so forth.

Ah, most music I listen to isn't written like that. I just wanted it to rhyme!

[Adam Griffin]

Of course the real issue was Sanders voters not showing up or throwing away their votes on Jill Stein, letting Trump win with a minority.

Hillary Clinton lost despite having the most votes because of the electoral college, not because of Sanders or third party voters. In a sensible and democratic election system, Clinton would have been President, and she did not need a single additional vote for that to be the case.

Um no Clinton didnt win a majority of the popular vote. The Right Bloc in 2016 had more votes than the Left bloc did

How many times do people have to tell you that multiple candidates aren't some magical chimera you get to count as one entity?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Once Bernie moves to the center and selects his Veep, he will be seen as less polarizing than he is now, that's what make Klobuchar not Warren, so strong, Klobuchar is a moderate,  Warren isnt

[Arizona Iced Tea]

There is no way in hell I will vote for Bernie if he is the Dem nominee, even if I am somehow living in a battleground state by then

Somebody like you voting for the Democratic Party means it has long since died, intellectually and otherwise.

No If Trump wasnt Trump, I would not be voting Dem this year. I would vote to reelect a professional and well behaved Trump(Which of course then Trump wouldnt be Trump) and this year because Trump digusts me so much , I will vote for Bide/Bloomberg//Pete/Amy but there is no way in hell Im gonna vote for Bernie.


Bernie disgusts me a lot as well and there is no way in hell I would vote for that socialist

So you like Trump's policy but don't like his behavior?
And you like Sanders' behavior but not his policy?

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Has Warren spoke yet? I think it could be telling she's going last...

The event page says her Seattle rally starts in 40 minutes. She'll be speaking in around 60-90 minutes

[OSR stands with Israel]

I would vote to reelect a professional and well behaved Trump

All you (or anybody in your party) needed to say really

That Trump wouldn't insult our allies every day , lash out on twitter every day, do what he did with Ukraine etc.


I like Trump's economic policies , his judicial record, and on immigration he isnt much different than first term Obama anyway

[KaiserDave]

There is no way in hell I will vote for Bernie if he is the Dem nominee, even if I am somehow living in a battleground state by then

Somebody like you voting for the Democratic Party means it has long since died, intellectually and otherwise.

 I would vote to reelect a professional and well behaved Trump

No offense OSR, I like you quite a lot

But it is very disappointing that you'd support a blank slate with Trump's policies. These policies are destructive, dangerous, and ripping America apart. It's not just the tweets.

[It’s so Joever]

Of course the real issue was Sanders voters not showing up or throwing away their votes on Jill Stein, letting Trump win with a minority.

Hillary Clinton lost despite having the most votes because of the electoral college, not because of Sanders or third party voters. In a sensible and democratic election system, Clinton would have been President, and she did not need a single additional vote for that to be the case.

Um no Clinton didnt win a majority of the popular vote. The Right Bloc in 2016 had more votes than the Left bloc did

Trust me, plenty of Johnson voters would have been otherwise Clinton voters if forced to choose, especially where I live.

[Adam Griffin]

There is no way in hell I will vote for Bernie if he is the Dem nominee, even if I am somehow living in a battleground state by then

Somebody like you voting for the Democratic Party means it has long since died, intellectually and otherwise.

So OSR should vote straight Republican and refuse to even consider Bernie?
Should I do the same since I obviously am in Fake Democrat territory?

1) He's not considering Bernie
2) He absolutely should (because is not nor ever has been considering doing anything else)
3) Do what you want: online comments aren't going to change your voting behaviors, so if you end up coddling Republicans, you were always going to do so (though frankly I am skeptical you are even of legal voting age)

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Once Bernie moves to the center and selects his Veep, he will be seen as less polarizing than he is now, that's what make Klobuchar not Warren, so strong, Klobuchar is a moderate,  Warren isnt

A weirdly coherent take from oc - I’ve been thinking about Klobuchar as a compromise VP for Bernie at a contested convention as that possibility has arisen and as she’s started to turn her fire on Pete. Love you brother.

[John Dule]

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of Bernie
His victory over the orange man shall stretch from sea to shining sea
He fights for people everywhere, people just like you and me
His truth is marching on!
Glory, glory hallelujah
Glory, glory hallelujah
Glory, glory hallelujah
His truth is marching on!

Do you know what scansion is, BRTD?

No actually.

It's the aspect of poetry that give it a meter or a "beat". For example, you might remember from high school English that a lot of Shakespeare is in iambic pentameter--each line has five "feet" consisting of one unstressed syllable followed by one stressed syllable (as in "But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?" or "That rounds the mortal temples of a king"). "Amazing Grace" can be (if one so chooses) sung to the tune of the Pokemon theme song because both are in "common meter"--one line of four iambs alternating with one line of three iambs. Many of Lewis Carroll's nonsense poems employ dactyls, which is a foot consisting of a stressed syllable followed by two unstressed syllables.

The verses of the Battle Hymn of the Republic are in iambic heptameter, and snowclones of the hymn should ideally also be in iambic heptameter. Another iambic heptameter religious poem is Robert Southwell's "The Burning Babe":

    As I in heavey winter's night stood shivering in the snow,
    Surprised I was with sudden heat which made my heart to glow.

And so forth.

Ah, most music I listen to isn't written like that. I just wanted it to rhyme!

More evidence of the adverse effects of Christian hardcore screamo-punk on the brain.