NV Caucus Results Thread (doors close at 2 CT)

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Klobuchar was always the Veep choice, the Teachers Union is the strongest backers in the Dem party and put to rest that Bernie cant win WI, actually,  he was performing better than Hillary. The third party support went to Gary Johnson

[atheist4thecause]

Besides winning MN by 5%, what else is Klobuchar hoping for at this point?

Alabama, Arkansas, Maine, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Virginia, North Dakota, and others.

[Dr. Arch]

I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

Where are you getting those results from?

[musicblind]

To be fair, the process of including all early votes into this, then making sure all the realignments are done correctly, is much more involved than what was done in Iowa. Big picture: simple math, involved process. Requires people who can follow instructions well. I still trust Nevada over Iowa in this regard.

In my opinion, that's just more reason every state should switch to primaries.

[YE]

Even suburban areas Sanders is running well in.

https://twitter.com/beakerlives/status/1231345607496753152?s=21

[Beet]

I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

Where are you getting those results from?

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/state/nevada

Also, here's a thread of anecdotal but interesting reports of a Warren surge on the election day vs early vote:

https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1231322621867954177

[atheist4thecause]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBarrett/status/1231345694599811073

Sanders voted against comprehensive immigration reform, and his M4A and Green New Deal proposals are so expensive and far-fetched that they are far less likely to get passed than the plans of other candidates.  Meaning on all three of her issues, Sanders is the least likely candidate to actually enact positive change.

So I personally find a good number of Sanders' plans somewhat unrealistic, but one of Trump's major campaign points was also unrealistic (building a big beautiful wall along the Mexican border AND Mexico will pay for it).  

All I'm saying is that I'm not sure how much "unrealistic plans" affect whole-scale voting in today's political climate, though it might be different for Republicans vs. Democrats.  

The wall though costs around 50 billion while Bernie’s plan costs more than 60 trillion . Trump actually could have got the wall passed if he wanted to but it’s just that he likes it more as a political issue rather than a policy one

Well, The GOP wants to build a wall, while Bernie wants everyone to be covered by healthcare insurance, takes care of the climate and incentivize millions of workers with a new deal, and while the GND costs a lot, it will also be good for the economy and yield earnings. Climate change should be no.1 priority. Scale back military costs, and increase tariffs, taxes on the rich and multinationals and we have the money.

I agree it isn't likely to be enacted, but sometimes a presidency is about prestige rather than ideas. Sanders as president would be a political revolution, which will dramatically change the Democratic Party, inspire young people, expand the progressive caucus and that's what we want.

64 trillion over 10 years isn’t at all possible though

If Sanders just taxes the Top 1% at an effective tax rate of 200% then he can pay for his health care plan. Simple! I did enjoy this tweet: https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1231005642413858816

[Grassroots]

Before we know it, the party will be ours.

But will the general election be yours?

[Gass3268]

I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

Where are you getting those results from?

TV stations have more numbers than NYT. MSNBC are at 10%.

[atheist4thecause]

I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

Yeah, lets keep in mind that Reno and Las Vegas came in first. The rural areas are coming in last. Sanders tends to get his best support in the big cities.

[RI]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBarrett/status/1231345694599811073

Sanders voted against comprehensive immigration reform, and his M4A and Green New Deal proposals are so expensive and far-fetched that they are far less likely to get passed than the plans of other candidates.  Meaning on all three of her issues, Sanders is the least likely candidate to actually enact positive change.

So I personally find a good number of Sanders' plans somewhat unrealistic, but one of Trump's major campaign points was also unrealistic (building a big beautiful wall along the Mexican border AND Mexico will pay for it).  

All I'm saying is that I'm not sure how much "unrealistic plans" affect whole-scale voting in today's political climate, though it might be different for Republicans vs. Democrats.  

The wall though costs around 50 billion while Bernie’s plan costs more than 60 trillion . Trump actually could have got the wall passed if he wanted to but it’s just that he likes it more as a political issue rather than a policy one

Well, The GOP wants to build a wall, while Bernie wants everyone to be covered by healthcare insurance, takes care of the climate and incentivize millions of workers with a new deal, and while the GND costs a lot, it will also be good for the economy and yield earnings. Climate change should be no.1 priority. Scale back military costs, and increase tariffs, taxes on the rich and multinationals and we have the money.

I agree it isn't likely to be enacted, but sometimes a presidency is about prestige rather than ideas. Sanders as president would be a political revolution, which will dramatically change the Democratic Party, inspire young people, expand the progressive caucus and that's what we want.

64 trillion over 10 years isn’t at all possible though

If Sanders just taxes the Top 1% at an effective tax rate of 200% then he can pay for his health care plan. Simple! I did enjoy this tweet: https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1231005642413858816

That's not how marginal tax rates work.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Before we know it, the party will be ours.

But will the general election be yours?

Absolutely.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBarrett/status/1231345694599811073

Sanders voted against comprehensive immigration reform, and his M4A and Green New Deal proposals are so expensive and far-fetched that they are far less likely to get passed than the plans of other candidates.  Meaning on all three of her issues, Sanders is the least likely candidate to actually enact positive change.

So I personally find a good number of Sanders' plans somewhat unrealistic, but one of Trump's major campaign points was also unrealistic (building a big beautiful wall along the Mexican border AND Mexico will pay for it).  

All I'm saying is that I'm not sure how much "unrealistic plans" affect whole-scale voting in today's political climate, though it might be different for Republicans vs. Democrats.  

The wall though costs around 50 billion while Bernie’s plan costs more than 60 trillion . Trump actually could have got the wall passed if he wanted to but it’s just that he likes it more as a political issue rather than a policy one

Well, The GOP wants to build a wall, while Bernie wants everyone to be covered by healthcare insurance, takes care of the climate and incentivize millions of workers with a new deal, and while the GND costs a lot, it will also be good for the economy and yield earnings. Climate change should be no.1 priority. Scale back military costs, and increase tariffs, taxes on the rich and multinationals and we have the money.

I agree it isn't likely to be enacted, but sometimes a presidency is about prestige rather than ideas. Sanders as president would be a political revolution, which will dramatically change the Democratic Party, inspire young people, expand the progressive caucus and that's what we want.

64 trillion over 10 years isn’t at all possible though

If Sanders just taxes the Top 1% at an effective tax rate of 200% then he can pay for his health care plan. Simple! I did enjoy this tweet: https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1231005642413858816

You seriously believe Charlie Kirk on Sander's tax plan?

[John Dule]

I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

Yeah, lets keep in mind that Reno and Las Vegas came in first. The rural areas are coming in last. Sanders tends to get his best support in the big cities.

70% of the vote is in Clark County. If you're waiting for the nuclear wasteland of rural Nevada to push Biden over the top, you shouldn't hold your breath.

[Grassroots]

Before we know it, the party will be ours.

But will the general election be yours?

Absolutely.

How so? Why can Sanders win the GE despite showing weakness in suburban areas?

[Lisa's voting Biden]

Before we know it, the party will be ours.

But will the general election be yours?

Absolutely.

How so? Why can Sanders win the GE despite showing weakness in suburban areas?

He's showing zero weakness in suburban areas.

[izixs]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBarrett/status/1231345694599811073

Sanders voted against comprehensive immigration reform, and his M4A and Green New Deal proposals are so expensive and far-fetched that they are far less likely to get passed than the plans of other candidates.  Meaning on all three of her issues, Sanders is the least likely candidate to actually enact positive change.

So I personally find a good number of Sanders' plans somewhat unrealistic, but one of Trump's major campaign points was also unrealistic (building a big beautiful wall along the Mexican border AND Mexico will pay for it).  

All I'm saying is that I'm not sure how much "unrealistic plans" affect whole-scale voting in today's political climate, though it might be different for Republicans vs. Democrats.  

The wall though costs around 50 billion while Bernie’s plan costs more than 60 trillion . Trump actually could have got the wall passed if he wanted to but it’s just that he likes it more as a political issue rather than a policy one

Well, The GOP wants to build a wall, while Bernie wants everyone to be covered by healthcare insurance, takes care of the climate and incentivize millions of workers with a new deal, and while the GND costs a lot, it will also be good for the economy and yield earnings. Climate change should be no.1 priority. Scale back military costs, and increase tariffs, taxes on the rich and multinationals and we have the money.

I agree it isn't likely to be enacted, but sometimes a presidency is about prestige rather than ideas. Sanders as president would be a political revolution, which will dramatically change the Democratic Party, inspire young people, expand the progressive caucus and that's what we want.

64 trillion over 10 years isn’t at all possible though

If Sanders just taxes the Top 1% at an effective tax rate of 200% then he can pay for his health care plan. Simple! I did enjoy this tweet: https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1231005642413858816

First off, Charlie Kirk (and you) does not appear to understand the concept of marginal tax rates which we have in the US. Second... what does this have to do with NV caucus results? Seriously?

[atheist4thecause]

I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

Yeah, lets keep in mind that Reno and Las Vegas came in first. The rural areas are coming in last. Sanders tends to get his best support in the big cities.

70% of the vote is in Clark County. If you're waiting for the nuclear wasteland of rural Nevada to push Biden over the top, you shouldn't hold your breath.

I'm not a Biden supporter. I'm a Klobuchar supporter. Sanders is going to obviously win, but by how much? Rural areas can bring the margin down potentially. Remember, this is a race about delegates.

[RI]

CNN now has county delegates at:

Sanders 29%
Warren 19%
Biden 17%
Buttigieg 17%
Klobuchar 9%
Steyer 7%

Only 1% in though

[Grassroots]

Before we know it, the party will be ours.

But will the general election be yours?

Absolutely.

How so? Why can Sanders win the GE despite showing weakness in suburban areas?

He's showing zero weakness in suburban areas.

That's a denial of reality.

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This is almost as slow as Iowa.

[Gass3268]

CNN now has county delegates at:

Sanders 29%
Warren 19%
Biden 17%
Buttigieg 17%
Klobuchar 9%
Steyer 7%

Only 1% in though

MSNBC has these same results, from the Nevada Democratic Party.

[Lisa's voting Biden]

Before we know it, the party will be ours.

But will the general election be yours?

Absolutely.

How so? Why can Sanders win the GE despite showing weakness in suburban areas?

He's showing zero weakness in suburban areas.

That's a denial of reality.

Then show me this reality where Bernie is showing weakness in the suburbs to Trump of all people?

[Dr. Arch]

I'm surprised Chris Matthews doesn't like Sanders.

Sanders is coming down to earth. Under 35% in the first round and at 42% in the final round now. So much for the "60%".

Where are you getting those results from?

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/state/nevada

Also, here's a thread of anecdotal but interesting reports of a Warren surge on the election day vs early vote:

https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1231322621867954177

How is he "coming down" when you're comparing 10% in vs 1% final? That's about where he started too.

Let's let the thing run its course.

[atheist4thecause]

CNN reporting that precinct workers are getting busy signals. The backup plan is to text a picture of the tally sheet and also drive the tally sheet to the office. The backup plans are helping, allegedly.