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« Reply #800 on: February 11, 2020, 08:31:24 PM »

Yeah, Sanders is looking at an unimpressive win in New Hampshire.
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« Reply #801 on: February 11, 2020, 08:31:52 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2020, 08:35:59 PM by Calthrina950 »

Nashua ward 3 results on CNN

Bernie wins with 590 votes, didn't get the others before they cut away from it, but it was a clear Bernie lead, 2nd place had like 400.

So similar to Manchester.

How is that even happening? Bernie is doing so poorly among the poorer white working class that was critical to him in 2016 but doing quite well among the super-progressive wealthier electorate. It's bizarre. Iowa was like that, too. Maybe he's just leaning really heavily into the youth vote, but the dynamics are so different this year. His base is far more Warren-esque than we thought, and far less Biden-y.

I think that Trump's strategy of tarring Sanders as a "socialist", and the progressively more left-wing positions which he has taken, has alienated many of those voters. Moreover, he was a protest vote for them against Hillary Clinton last time. Now that this factor is gone, they have no reason to support him at the same levels. And polarization has certainly contributed to the decline in his rural support. Finally, it's obvious that Sanders has picked up much of Warren's prior support, as her position has deteriorated.
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« Reply #802 on: February 11, 2020, 08:32:06 PM »

My last prediction
Klob and Warren to over-perform

Bennet too


Also Tulsi will get less than 3%

This aged well
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« Reply #803 on: February 11, 2020, 08:32:17 PM »

Klobuchar indeed stole this from Buttigieg. What a nasty woman.
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« Reply #804 on: February 11, 2020, 08:32:19 PM »

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« Reply #805 on: February 11, 2020, 08:33:13 PM »

Bernie has totally lost the coalition of voters that supposedly made him strong against Trump, working class/rural whites.  This campaign is turning into Hillary 2016 but with less enthusiasm and infrastructure among the establishment.  Disaster.
Its indeed looking like the Corbyn coalition. I still think Bernie received lot of anti-Clinton vote in 2016, as Clinton did in 2008 where she got the anti-Obama vote which was also mainly rural. And these voters now abondon them.
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« Reply #806 on: February 11, 2020, 08:33:32 PM »



DROPOUT #2
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« Reply #807 on: February 11, 2020, 08:33:37 PM »

1/3rd of the vote in:

27.3% Bernie
22.8% Pete
19.7% Amy
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« Reply #808 on: February 11, 2020, 08:33:38 PM »

Nashua ward 3 results on CNN

Bernie wins with 590 votes, didn't get the others before they cut away from it, but it was a clear Bernie lead, 2nd place had like 400.

So similar to Manchester.

How is that even happening? Bernie is doing so poorly among the poorer white working class that was critical to him in 2016 but doing quite well among the super-progressive wealthier electorate. It's bizarre. Iowa was like that, too. Maybe he's just leaning really heavily into the youth vote, but the dynamics are so different this year. His base is far more Warren-esque than we thought, and far less Biden-y.

Are we watching the same election?

He is still winning working-class communities, both Urban/Suburban and Rurals....

We can't do 2016 DEM PRIM as an "apples to apples" comparison....

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« Reply #809 on: February 11, 2020, 08:33:56 PM »


Dropout imminent? That's a pretty weird tweet from Warren.
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« Reply #810 on: February 11, 2020, 08:33:58 PM »

Klobuchar indeed stole this from Buttigieg. What a nasty woman.

Make sure she doesn't hear you say that...though she may be in good spirits tonight!
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« Reply #811 on: February 11, 2020, 08:34:31 PM »

Yeah, Sanders is looking at an unimpressive win in New Hampshire.
Win is a win though and he can legit argue he won the first two states if these numbers hold up.
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« Reply #812 on: February 11, 2020, 08:34:40 PM »

1/3rd of the vote in:

27.3% Bernie
22.8% Pete
19.7% Amy

Go to sleep!
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« Reply #813 on: February 11, 2020, 08:34:53 PM »



Trump is just at 51% in Hanover.
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« Reply #814 on: February 11, 2020, 08:34:54 PM »



DROPOUT #2

Last irrelevant
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« Reply #815 on: February 11, 2020, 08:35:11 PM »


Dropout imminent? That's a pretty weird tweet from Warren.

It kinda sounded like a dropout speech to me, but apparently she's moving forward.
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« Reply #816 on: February 11, 2020, 08:35:19 PM »

Let’s not call the race for Sanders early until we get more of the Hillsborough votes in.

That is not going to change anything, although it will make it a bit closer. Look at Auburn, Candia, Epping etc - all places which are fairly close.

There are only relatively few other towns like Merrimack/Pelham/Derry/Londonderry that might give margins similar-ish to the ones in Bedford/Hollis for Buttigieg.

If Bernie were also losing places like Salem/Acworth/Fremont/Epping by 10 points, then sure. But that is just not happening. Although there are a few more Pete towns in the west popping up than I was expecting.
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« Reply #817 on: February 11, 2020, 08:35:37 PM »

Yeah, Sanders is looking at an unimpressive win in New Hampshire.

Take it to the spin room....
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« Reply #818 on: February 11, 2020, 08:35:53 PM »



LIVE from Biden Headquarters... UNCLE JOE HAS BEEN CROWNED THE WINNER OF NEW HAMPSHIRE!!
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« Reply #819 on: February 11, 2020, 08:36:02 PM »

Klobuchar indeed stole this from Buttigieg. What a nasty woman.

Angry Amy does it again.
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« Reply #820 on: February 11, 2020, 08:36:12 PM »

Bennet is out.
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« Reply #821 on: February 11, 2020, 08:37:22 PM »


Dropout imminent? That's a pretty weird tweet from Warren.

Cmon Warren! Swing to Amy! I will follow you there!
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« Reply #822 on: February 11, 2020, 08:37:45 PM »

Sanders' lead dropping in Manchester, down to 11.
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« Reply #823 on: February 11, 2020, 08:38:00 PM »



Remember that Warren endorsed Hillary Clinton despite being closer ideologically to Sanders. Does she now endorse another Liberal woman in Amy Klobuchar? What a big deal that would be if Warren does drop out.
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« Reply #824 on: February 11, 2020, 08:38:02 PM »


Dropout imminent? That's a pretty weird tweet from Warren.

It kinda sounded like a dropout speech to me, but apparently she's moving forward.
It would be HUGE if Warren endorsed Amy though. If that happened, she'd instantly become one of the favorites against Sanders.
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