UK General Election 2019 - Election Day and Results Thread

[izixs]

In addition to the global trends, this was a total failure on the part of anti-Brexit crowd to unite against Boris.

They did it on the Leave side with BXP standing down in Tory districts.

LibDems and Labour failed to get along in the same way.

Democrats in the US have to take note. Moderate Dems, progressives, moderate Republicans must wholly unite against Trump or assure re-election.

That of course is directed at all parties, [SNIPPED]

I think that a lot depends on the specific seats, but generally yes. Lots of Lib Dem - Tory marginals where Labour should’ve stepped aside. But a fair number that the Lib Dems shouldn’t have contested.

Some of this seems to assume that the Liberal Dems aren't actually okay with the conservatives winning. The more I see their antics, the more they come off like the US green party except staked out in the center left instead of far left as far as electoral posturing is concerned. To be clear, that means a lot of posturing, being useless, having little interest in actually governing, and more than happy to carry water for the most destructive elements of the right's propaganda.

But sure, because they were the most anti-Brexit of the big 3 they can be totally trusted to do the right thing when it comes crunch time. Right.

*looks at the Lib Dems who didn't do that for this election*

...Right....

Don't blame the Lib Dems for what's happening in Northern England. If anything, they're going to dent the Conservative majority by getting a few seats in the South Labour could have never won.

Right. So Labour and the remain folks should be happy for them for holding back the 70 something-th punch because that's oh so much better and makes everything a-okay.

When you're dealing with conservatives in this day and age, if they can edge even a slight majority they'll tear through a country enacting their extremist agenda like they won with 90% of the vote. A few brights spots don't cut it unless they are specifically what keeps them out of the majority.

[Silent Hunter]

Skinner looks like losing Bolsover. He would have been Father of the House had he won.

[Cassius]

Skinner looks like losing Bolsover. He would have been Father of the House had he won.

Making Peter Bottomley the Father of the House (I think).

[Roblox]

Skinner looks like losing Bolsover. He would have been Father of the House had he won.

Disappointing, but not surprising considering pre-election speculation and the exit poll. Might be the biggest "RIP FF" moment of the night. Any idea as to the margin?

[urutzizu]

The Labour candidate in Stoke on BBC right now is absolutely seething. Has to be years of frustration for guys like him building up.

"Who do you blame for your demise"

"Oh, the Labour leadership"

"Are you saying Corbyn and McDonnell need to resign?"

"Yes"

Brilliant.

[Storr]

BBC has Middlesborough as LAB hold.

Update: Swindon North CON hold.

[The Free North]

The Labour candidate in Stoke on BBC right now is absolutely seething. Has to be years of frustration for guys like him building up.

"Who do you blame for your demise"

"Oh, the Labour leadership"

"Are you saying Corbyn and McDonnell need to resign?"

"Yes"

Brilliant.

A dose of blunt, real politics that the US could use a solid helping of.

[jaichind]

BBC has Middlesborough as LAB hold.

That is a fairly Remain seats.  Some independent (which I assume has a LAB background) ate into the LAB vote.

[DistingFlyer]

First southern result in: North Swindon held by the Tories with a 7% swing towards them.

[Gracile]

CON Hold in Swindon North...and they got nearly double the number of votes as Labour.

[Tintrlvr]

In addition to the global trends, this was a total failure on the part of anti-Brexit crowd to unite against Boris.

They did it on the Leave side with BXP standing down in Tory districts.

LibDems and Labour failed to get along in the same way.

Democrats in the US have to take note. Moderate Dems, progressives, moderate Republicans must wholly unite against Trump or assure re-election.

That of course is directed at all parties, [SNIPPED]

I think that a lot depends on the specific seats, but generally yes. Lots of Lib Dem - Tory marginals where Labour should’ve stepped aside. But a fair number that the Lib Dems shouldn’t have contested.

Some of this seems to assume that the Liberal Dems aren't actually okay with the conservatives winning. The more I see their antics, the more they come off like the US green party except staked out in the center left instead of far left as far as electoral posturing is concerned. To be clear, that means a lot of posturing, being useless, having little interest in actually governing, and more than happy to carry water for the most destructive elements of the right's propaganda.

But sure, because they were the most anti-Brexit of the big 3 they can be totally trusted to do the right thing when it comes crunch time. Right.

*looks at the Lib Dems who didn't do that for this election*

...Right....

Don't blame the Lib Dems for what's happening in Northern England. If anything, they're going to dent the Conservative majority by getting a few seats in the South Labour could have never won.

They are breaking even in terms of gains lol. There's still marginal seats in the south that could go Labour without vote divide.

The same seats would go Lib Dem if Labour stood aside (even if Labour is way ahead of the Lib Dems in 2017 and this year), and polling suggested in all of the potential three-way seats, the Lib Dems were much stronger challengers to the Conservatives than Labour if the seats were two-way races, so *shrug*

[Matty]

To be honest, looking at the results so far

The exit poll is off on 368

Tories likely have 355 or so

[adma]

And remember re Blyth Valley as a barometer: it was an open seat.

[Clyde1998]

Ruth Davidson on ITV seems convinced its mainly Labour that have collapsed to the SNP and that the Tories and Lib Dems have done okay. Take with a grain of salt but let's see.

Makes sense given the pre-election polling, and there may have been a late swing to the SNP too partly based on tactical voting.

IIRC, it was 2017 Labour and Lib Dem voters who were most undecided in Scotland prior to the election - probably caught between Brexit and independence. YouGov's MRP data showed most Conservative seats in Scotland as marginal - it's possible that those voters may have swung behind the SNP in Conservative-held seats.

[Pyro]

What a fking tragedy.

[PetrSokol]

Any link to BBC livestreanm, please?

[Storr]

Any link to BBC livestreanm, please?

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/election-2019-50755004

[Frodo]

Jeremy Corbyn is gone at least.  That's one silver-lining from tonight. 

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Jeremy Corbyn is gone at least.  That's one silver-lining from tonight. 

Don't be so sure.


Also, I am pretty much sure that in 2017 those results were coming faster. Is it because of weather?

[Arkansas Yankee]

I am totally vindicated.  I predicted 360 to 370 Tories.  I observed that the results would be a judgment against Corbyn.  

I don’t see how Labour gets rid of the Corbnites.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Lol, RIP Britain

Yeah, that sounds about right.

I can't say I'm surprised at the results. The United Kingdom might be giving us here in the US a run for our money when it comes to political idiocy. They may sound more refined, but their voting populace can be just as dumb as we are when it comes to considering the future of their country.

 I just hope that remains true this time next year, we still have the potential to surpass them, unfortunately.

[DistingFlyer]

Newcastle-upon-Tyne North in - the best Labour result so far, with a swing of only 4.6% against them.

Newcastle is swinging much less hard than Sunderland, but given how they voted in the 2016 referendum that's not exactly a shock.

[Frodo]

Jeremy Corbyn is gone at least.  That's one silver-lining from tonight. 

Don't be so sure.

Oh, I am.  He's being scapegoated by virtually everyone for tonight's loss, especially by his own party.  

[Dr. MB]

You can't really compare West Virginia or Ohio or wherever to Labour losing in the north. The rural Democrats that lost were usually blue dogs while say, Dennis Skinner is a hardcore socialist - and not even a #populist one, he's pretty socially liberal.

[Roblox]

Lol, RIP Britain

Yeah, that sounds about right.

I can't say I'm surprised at the results. The United Kingdom might be giving us here in the US a run for our money when it comes to political idiocy. They may sound more refined, but their voting populace can be just as dumb as we are when it comes to considering the future of their country.

 I just hope that remains true this time next year, we still have the potential to surpass them, unfortunately.

I mean, at least Trump actually lost the popular vote here...