Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread v2 (pg 77 - declares victory in Iowa)
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« Reply #300 on: October 15, 2019, 05:01:08 PM »

Anyone want to guess the odds Bernie's heart attack is mentioned by the moderators or another candidate?

The candidates won't. The All-Seeing, Infallible Media (PBUT) certainly will though.
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« Reply #301 on: October 15, 2019, 05:20:12 PM »
« Edited: October 15, 2019, 05:24:52 PM by Old School Republican »

https://news.yahoo.com/under-bernie-sanders-billionaires-could-151318506.html


Bernie literally doesnt know how net worth is calculated one bit lol , or effect this would do to investments throughout the economy.

He literally probably thinks Billionaires have a billion dollars in cash just lying around that they can pay in taxes.
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« Reply #302 on: October 15, 2019, 05:35:46 PM »

Sanders is even worse than Corbyn (and I hate Corbyn)
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« Reply #303 on: October 15, 2019, 05:40:23 PM »

Bernie Sanders, continuing to make Elizabeth Warren seem like a moderate centrist.
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« Reply #304 on: October 15, 2019, 05:43:34 PM »

This title seems very misleading, and I can't seem to find this website the video refers to.  
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« Reply #305 on: October 15, 2019, 06:01:11 PM »

This title seems very misleading, and I can't seem to find this website the video refers to.  

It is misleading, but not in the way you think it is. OP should change it to "Top AVERAGE effective tax rate." The way the title is worded would make some believe that 97.5% is the absolute highest effective tax rate one would face, but that is not the case. Under Bernie's plan, the top 400 tax payers would pay an AVERAGE effective tax rate of 97.5%, meaning that several, several of them would pay far more than that.
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« Reply #306 on: October 15, 2019, 06:04:31 PM »

His campaign is such a joke. He doesn't care about serious proposals.
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« Reply #307 on: October 15, 2019, 10:17:50 PM »

CNN/WaPo - The entire "squad" except Pressley to endorse Bernie at his rally in Queens, mentioned during the debates.
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« Reply #308 on: October 15, 2019, 10:24:57 PM »

CNN/WaPo - The entire "squad" except Pressley to endorse Bernie at his rally in Queens, mentioned during the debates.

This is a big deal. If the three actively campaign for him for the next few months, he has a very good shot at the nomination. His chances just shot up.
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« Reply #309 on: October 15, 2019, 10:58:45 PM »

CNN/WaPo - The entire "squad" except Pressley to endorse Bernie at his rally in Queens, mentioned during the debates.

This is a big deal. If the three actively campaign for him for the next few months, he has a very good shot at the nomination. His chances just shot up.

I’m not so sure, although it certainly gives him a ton of momentum (combined with a great debate performance). Who’s going to be convinced by this who wasn’t already with him? Waffly Warren supporters who are swayed by the progressive credentials/aesthetic of the Squad? I think most of the die-hard progressives are already in his camp.
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« Reply #310 on: October 15, 2019, 11:09:45 PM »

Pressley is from Massachusetts so she will not be endorsing Bernie till Warren is a viable contender or atleast till Iowa & NH.
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« Reply #311 on: October 15, 2019, 11:12:51 PM »

CNN/WaPo - The entire "squad" except Pressley to endorse Bernie at his rally in Queens, mentioned during the debates.

This is a big deal. If the three actively campaign for him for the next few months, he has a very good shot at the nomination. His chances just shot up.

I’m not so sure, although it certainly gives him a ton of momentum (combined with a great debate performance). Who’s going to be convinced by this who wasn’t already with him? Waffly Warren supporters who are swayed by the progressive credentials/aesthetic of the Squad? I think most of the die-hard progressives are already in his camp.

This is assuming that lots of people who pay attention to the Squad also are paying close attention to the primaries. They aren't. The Squad can bring a lot of young people tuned out of politics-beyond-celebrity and get them to care enough about the primary to cast a vote.

I think the Sanders folks are way overestimating how much of an effect it will have but it'll be something non-zero.
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« Reply #312 on: October 16, 2019, 12:01:10 AM »

That's a little high for me, but I'd probably rather have billionaires pay an effective tax rate of 97.5% than the current effective rate of 23%.
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« Reply #313 on: October 16, 2019, 12:03:37 AM »

This is a dumb proposal, but let's please remember that a top tax bracket of 97.5% doesn't mean that those people will be paying 97.5% of what they earn in taxes.
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« Reply #314 on: October 16, 2019, 12:29:18 AM »

This is a dumb proposal, but let's please remember that a top tax bracket of 97.5% doesn't mean that those people will be paying 97.5% of what they earn in taxes.

I'd argue it's the right way to go. Bernie's not dumb enough to think this will actually get anywhere. If you start out from an extreme position, you're more likely to get more of what you want in the final arrangement. See: Republicans on Obamacare.
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« Reply #315 on: October 16, 2019, 12:41:07 AM »

This is a dumb proposal, but let's please remember that a top tax bracket of 97.5% doesn't mean that those people will be paying 97.5% of what they earn in taxes.


It’s not top bracket of 97.5 it really is top effective rate of 97.5%
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« Reply #316 on: October 16, 2019, 08:13:39 AM »

How about something in text, not just some video?
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« Reply #317 on: October 16, 2019, 09:06:40 AM »

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« Reply #318 on: October 16, 2019, 09:17:27 AM »

Incredible numbers.
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« Reply #319 on: October 16, 2019, 01:08:21 PM »

538 post-debate polling shows Sanders increasing his favorability the most of the top three. His performance was rated 3.1 out of 4, a close second to Warren at 3.2. The percentage of voters considering him basically did not change (down 0.3%).

I'm a Warren guy but I thought Bernie was really effective last night, honestly surprised these numbers aren't even better.
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« Reply #320 on: October 16, 2019, 03:56:22 PM »

I think his consideration numbers probably weren't helped by the fact that his heart attack was discussed but it's just one poll, who knows...
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« Reply #321 on: October 16, 2019, 04:00:00 PM »

I think his consideration numbers probably weren't helped by the fact that his heart attack was discussed but it's just one poll, who knows...

Its basically statistically insignificant. A better way to look at it is that overall consideration didnt change for Sanders, which is a bad thing for him, but not a killer(overall consideration is the percentage of the electorate considering a candidate, but it does not preferences).

Anyway, it was a great debate for Sanders, and he has a big rally on Saturday, but we have to wait for the horse-race pollsters to give the verdict.
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« Reply #322 on: October 17, 2019, 05:44:24 AM »

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« Reply #323 on: October 17, 2019, 11:42:47 AM »

Really interested to see the Queens rally. If AOC delivers a good endorsement speech (as I'm sure she will), it could gain traction and will almost definitely help Sanders.
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« Reply #324 on: October 17, 2019, 11:51:31 AM »



Haven't seen the context, but it sounds like he's referring to the fact that all three of those women represent urban districts, and Dems need rural appeal right now.
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