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« on: September 06, 2020, 06:14:21 AM »

I love parliamentary systems. The problem is that Atlasia is not real life, 90% of legislators have no initiative, and government by committee inevitably leads to nothing getting done. As a practical matter Frémont needs a strong executive to keep the gears turning or parliament would quickly become impotent and ineffective. Hence the Philly Plan has been an unmitigated disaster that only worked when Peanut ran the government as a de facto first minister; one need only observe the string of failed and ineffective chancellors to understand why selecting the head of government by and from the legislature is a terrible idea.
Well maybe if Labor didn’t PM cookiedamage to vote against Ninja we would have a effective Chancellor.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2020, 07:18:15 AM »
« Edited: September 06, 2020, 08:24:12 AM by Ishan »

I love parliamentary systems. The problem is that Atlasia is not real life, 90% of legislators have no initiative, and government by committee inevitably leads to nothing getting done. As a practical matter Frémont needs a strong executive to keep the gears turning or parliament would quickly become impotent and ineffective. Hence the Philly Plan has been an unmitigated disaster that only worked when Peanut ran the government as a de facto first minister; one need only observe the string of failed and ineffective chancellors to understand why selecting the head of government by and from the legislature is a terrible idea.
Well maybe if Labor didn’t PM cookiedamage to vote against Ninja we would have a effective Chancellor.

Given Ninja has hardly ever served a full term in office we quite reasonably do not trust his abilities. Plus of course Labor won the Lincoln ekections and so the people expect that when they vote for a Labor government they will get one.
Please do first preference Ninja0428/1184AZ for President.
Anyway, 100% Endorsed, Ninja will bring fresh leadership and change to Atlasia!
No regrets for voting for you. Best of luck with your future in Atlasia.
Why did you support Ninja in June 2018 then.
He was the Speaker of the House and the Lincoln Assembly and a Deputy President Pro Tempore, so he the abilities to be Chancellor
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2020, 02:46:38 PM »
« Edited: September 06, 2020, 02:51:33 PM by Ishan »

I love parliamentary systems. The problem is that Atlasia is not real life, 90% of legislators have no initiative, and government by committee inevitably leads to nothing getting done. As a practical matter Frémont needs a strong executive to keep the gears turning or parliament would quickly become impotent and ineffective. Hence the Philly Plan has been an unmitigated disaster that only worked when Peanut ran the government as a de facto first minister; one need only observe the string of failed and ineffective chancellors to understand why selecting the head of government by and from the legislature is a terrible idea.
Well maybe if Labor didn’t PM cookiedamage to vote against Ninja we would have a effective Chancellor.

Given Ninja has hardly ever served a full term in office we quite reasonably do not trust his abilities. Plus of course Labor won the Lincoln ekections and so the people expect that when they vote for a Labor government they will get one.
Please do first preference Ninja0428/1184AZ for President.
Anyway, 100% Endorsed, Ninja will bring fresh leadership and change to Atlasia!
No regrets for voting for you. Best of luck with your future in Atlasia.
Why did you support Ninja in June 2018 then.
He was the Speaker of the House and the Lincoln Assembly and a Deputy President Pro Tempore, so he the abilities to be Chancellor


He served as Speaker for less than a month.
The Chancellor is someone who spent 1 month in the chamber before becoming Chancellor so your point doesn't stand.

You could have avoided this by having the Labor machine abandon cookiedamage (someone who didn't even vote in the election) and supported Wulfric, who ran 3 times who would have made a better Chancellor then N1240.

I feel bad for Wulfric because Labor abandoned him for someone who didn't post in the fantasy boards for a month before swearing in because someone PMed him.

Without someone PMing him, he would have been recalled by now.
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2020, 02:53:00 PM »

I love parliamentary systems. The problem is that Atlasia is not real life, 90% of legislators have no initiative, and government by committee inevitably leads to nothing getting done. As a practical matter Frémont needs a strong executive to keep the gears turning or parliament would quickly become impotent and ineffective. Hence the Philly Plan has been an unmitigated disaster that only worked when Peanut ran the government as a de facto first minister; one need only observe the string of failed and ineffective chancellors to understand why selecting the head of government by and from the legislature is a terrible idea.
Well maybe if Labor didn’t PM cookiedamage to vote against Ninja we would have a effective Chancellor.

Given Ninja has hardly ever served a full term in office we quite reasonably do not trust his abilities. Plus of course Labor won the Lincoln ekections and so the people expect that when they vote for a Labor government they will get one.
Please do first preference Ninja0428/1184AZ for President.
Anyway, 100% Endorsed, Ninja will bring fresh leadership and change to Atlasia!
No regrets for voting for you. Best of luck with your future in Atlasia.
Why did you support Ninja in June 2018 then.
He was the Speaker of the House and the Lincoln Assembly and a Deputy President Pro Tempore, so he the abilities to be Chancellor


He served as Speaker for less than a month.
The Chancellor is someone who spent 1 month in the chamber before becoming Chancellor so your point doesn't stand.

You could have avoided this by having the Labor machine abandon cookiedamage (someone who didn't even vote in the election) and supported Wulfric, who ran 3 times who would have made a better Chancellor then N1240.



You could have made it a lot easier for us if rather than causing chaos, you accepted that the people of Lincoln voted for a Labor government and expected that to be delivered.
R2D2, the Labor Governor nominated Ninja not a non-Labor Governor.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2020, 03:34:40 PM »

Your response is inappropriate Ninja. There is a clear pattern of Ninja failing in office. I cannot know his real life issues, but unfortunately it does mean his record in the game is very poor, and so he is not entitled to promotions.
Why did you support him for President then in June 2018?

Also, Labor abandoned Wulfric over someone who didn't post in the Fantasy boards for a month before swearing in.
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2020, 03:58:30 PM »

Your response is inappropriate Ninja. There is a clear pattern of Ninja failing in office. I cannot know his real life issues, but unfortunately it does mean his record in the game is very poor, and so he is not entitled to promotions.
Why did you support him for President then in June 2018?

Also, Labor abandoned Wulfric over someone who didn't post in the Fantasy boards for a month before swearing in.

Are you being a troll?
No and I am not intending to be a troll.

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2020, 09:25:45 AM »

This is not a spy thriller with cloak and dagger scheming. Its an elections game with no secret ballot and everyone living in very close quarters, 90% of the time anything convoluted or involving too many moving parts will always blow up in your face. Yea you have strategy and occasionally some clandestine dealing but on the whole if start to think you are Jason Bourne or James Bond you might want to reconsider your choice in gaming.

None of that would work out as you envisioned. The Speaker is a paper pusher, who merely advances the bills expeditiously and their competence is the only relevant factor. Who actually controls it is irrelevant to the functioning of the system as long as they do their job.

Either that or you don't understand the right or the left in this game at all. Which considering how this worked out, is very possible.
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Yeah, if I wanted to do "dirty things" I would do it to people who would have a chance of succeeding and do it discretely because I don't want to piss off the other side even more, but in Laki's case, the pressure must have been hard on him, and I wouldn't envy being in his position.

Yeah, in order to win, you have to PM zombies who would have likely never joined hadn't someone in Labor PMed them in 2019/2018 to "SMASH THE RIGHT WINGERS" and will never see a page in Atlasia.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2020, 10:41:36 AM »

If you want to scheme, use the "K.I.S.S Keep it simple Stupid" instead of making is so complicated and bigbrained.
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