Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v2

[ElectionsGuy]

First of all, what he have to do is go back and turn back all the changes that in fact the president has made, from CAFE standards to moving in the direction that we in fact deal with providing people who get displaced opportunities to have jobs by sending them back to school, by doing continuing education, whole range of things. I would see to it in the first, immediately, moving toward, you know we're in fact in a position now that if in fact we dealt with mitigation across the board, just what we did in the last administration and before, leading to a standard that we provide efficiency for appliances.

Does anybody think he's actually very unprepared to answer many of these questions so he constructs his sentences in long, drawn-out ways which sounds like a legitimate answer in hearing but the comprehension and take away from his answer is difficult and devoid of any real meaning? Another way of putting it is he sounds like he knows what he's talking about but nobody else really knows what he's talking about.

This is actually pretty similar to Trump. Put his statements on a piece of paper and you will realize how unbelievably nonsensical they are, but his supporters hear him and they go 'ok, sounds good'. I don't understand how people get duped by this crap.

Why would he be unprepared to answer these questions. He's running for President, of course, he is prepared. His answers do not sound incoherent, just stop.

Just stop? That's an overly defensive reaction. Can you tell me what his answer meant in terms of policy? Because I didn't get anything out of it and I don't think his average supporter did either. Maybe he is prepared, but his answers are the farthest thing away from clear and concise. This is a legitimate issue with Biden whether you like it or not.

[S019]

First of all, what he have to do is go back and turn back all the changes that in fact the president has made, from CAFE standards to moving in the direction that we in fact deal with providing people who get displaced opportunities to have jobs by sending them back to school, by doing continuing education, whole range of things. I would see to it in the first, immediately, moving toward, you know we're in fact in a position now that if in fact we dealt with mitigation across the board, just what we did in the last administration and before, leading to a standard that we provide efficiency for appliances.

Does anybody think he's actually very unprepared to answer many of these questions so he constructs his sentences in long, drawn-out ways which sounds like a legitimate answer in hearing but the comprehension and take away from his answer is difficult and devoid of any real meaning? Another way of putting it is he sounds like he knows what he's talking about but nobody else really knows what he's talking about.

This is actually pretty similar to Trump. Put his statements on a piece of paper and you will realize how unbelievably nonsensical they are, but his supporters hear him and they go 'ok, sounds good'. I don't understand how people get duped by this crap.

Why would he be unprepared to answer these questions. He's running for President, of course, he is prepared. His answers do not sound incoherent, just stop.

Just stop? That's an overly defensive reaction. Can you tell me what his answer meant in terms of policy? Because I didn't get anything out of it and I don't think his average supporter did either. Maybe he is prepared, but his answers are the farthest thing away from clear and concise. This is a legitimate issue with Biden whether you like it or not.

This part of the answer says that he wants to improve the fuel economy of cars and he wants to encourage people with jobs that will be replaced to go back to school and get an education. Also the second part of his answer which the poster did not provide is this: "I would see to it in the -- immediately, moving toward -- you know, we are, in fact, in a position now that if, in fact, we dealt with mitigation across the board, just what we did in the last administration, and before, leading to a standard that we provide efficiency for appliances, that saves billions of gallons of gasoline -- I mean, billions of -- two point -- I think it's $2.3 billion worth of -- excuse me, $500 billion in savings and two-point-something billion metric tons of CO-2 going into the air. We should do it across the board.
I think we should -- I propose we have 500,000 charging stations in the new green economy. We should own -- we should own the electric vehicle market. I think we should raise the CAFE standards, bring them back to where they were which would have saved 12 billion gallons of oil to begin with and move beyond. I think we should be, in fact, doubling what we're doing immediately with regard to solar and wind. I would make sure that we -- and I'd go -- it goes on from there. But the bottom line is, to set in place standards that cannot be walked away from when, in fact, the next president, if someone else comes along, does what Trump tries to do." This part clearly explains that he wants to improve the fuel economy of cars, have more efficient appliances, have hundreds of thousands of new charging stations, and continue to invest in solar and wind. The meaning of his answer is clear, it just requires some analytical thinking and some greater examination.

[Rookie Yinzer]

First of all, what he have to do is go back and turn back all the changes that in fact the president has made, from CAFE standards to moving in the direction that we in fact deal with providing people who get displaced opportunities to have jobs by sending them back to school, by doing continuing education, whole range of things. I would see to it in the first, immediately, moving toward, you know we're in fact in a position now that if in fact we dealt with mitigation across the board, just what we did in the last administration and before, leading to a standard that we provide efficiency for appliances.

Does anybody think he's actually very unprepared to answer many of these questions so he constructs his sentences in long, drawn-out ways which sounds like a legitimate answer in hearing but the comprehension and take away from his answer is difficult and devoid of any real meaning? Another way of putting it is he sounds like he knows what he's talking about but nobody else really knows what he's talking about.

This is actually pretty similar to Trump. Put his statements on a piece of paper and you will realize how unbelievably nonsensical they are, but his supporters hear him and they go 'ok, sounds good'. I don't understand how people get duped by this crap.

Why would he be unprepared to answer these questions. He's running for President, of course, he is prepared. His answers do not sound incoherent, just stop.

Just stop? That's an overly defensive reaction. Can you tell me what his answer meant in terms of policy? Because I didn't get anything out of it and I don't think his average supporter did either. Maybe he is prepared, but his answers are the farthest thing away from clear and concise. This is a legitimate issue with Biden whether you like it or not.

This part of the answer says that he wants to improve the fuel economy of cars and he wants to encourage people with jobs that will be replaced to go back to school and get an education. Also the second part of his answer which the poster did not provide is this: "I would see to it in the -- immediately, moving toward -- you know, we are, in fact, in a position now that if, in fact, we dealt with mitigation across the board, just what we did in the last administration, and before, leading to a standard that we provide efficiency for appliances, that saves billions of gallons of gasoline -- I mean, billions of -- two point -- I think it's $2.3 billion worth of -- excuse me, $500 billion in savings and two-point-something billion metric tons of CO-2 going into the air. We should do it across the board.
I think we should -- I propose we have 500,000 charging stations in the new green economy. We should own -- we should own the electric vehicle market. I think we should raise the CAFE standards, bring them back to where they were which would have saved 12 billion gallons of oil to begin with and move beyond. I think we should be, in fact, doubling what we're doing immediately with regard to solar and wind. I would make sure that we -- and I'd go -- it goes on from there. But the bottom line is, to set in place standards that cannot be walked away from when, in fact, the next president, if someone else comes along, does what Trump tries to do." This part clearly explains that he wants to improve the fuel economy of cars, have more efficient appliances, have hundreds of thousands of new charging stations, and continue to invest in solar and wind. The meaning of his answer is clear, it just requires some analytical thinking and some greater examination.

A regular voter isn’t reading all that. He looks and sounds incoherent. And unlike Trump he doesn’t have a hegemonic base trying to protect white supremacy to rely on.

[I Can Now Die Happy]

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1170125952757698561

https://twitter.com/EmmaVigeland/status/1170099460820602880

https://twitter.com/naomitlim/status/1170014498977136643

[S019]

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1170125952757698561

The source doesn't seem to provide details about what exactly he said, so we only have the author of this tweet's word

https://twitter.com/EmmaVigeland/status/1170099460820602880

This tweet is provided out of context, visiting that feed shows that Biden talked about sexual assault, the violence in Charlottesville, the El Paso shooting, Donald Trump, etc. Our source however, does not give us much details about O'Rourke's town hall.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Tweets from Michael Tracey, Emma Vigeland, Naomi Lim, all attacking Biden

Michael Tracey is a 100% moron and 100% Sanders hack who got fired from TYT.  He regularly lies and distorts on Twitter and is notorious for claiming Maxine Waters assaulted him.

Emma Vigeland is another TYT hack.

No comment on the Naomi Lim tweet since I can't watch the video.

But 2 of these 3 tweets are from TYT Network people, which is the media arm of the Sanders campaign.  I don't know why you're wasting space on this thread posting them.

[President Johnson]

Nobody in the real world cares what random SJWs on Twitter are saying about Uncle Joe.

[Arson Plus]

Nobody in the real world cares what random SJWs on Twitter are saying about Uncle Joe.

Naomi Lim isn't a hack, she is a reporter for BBC North America.

[BundouYMB]

Nobody in the real world cares what random SJWs on Twitter are saying about Uncle Joe.

Naomi Lim isn't a hack, she is a reporter for BBC North America.

Yes, we know. The corrupt media hates Joe because he's from the middle class and isn't a part of their little clique.

[I Can Now Die Happy]

Tweets from Michael Tracey, Emma Vigeland, Naomi Lim, all attacking Biden

Michael Tracey is a 100% moron and 100% Sanders hack who got fired from TYT.  He regularly lies and distorts on Twitter and is notorious for claiming Maxine Waters assaulted him.

Emma Vigeland is another TYT hack.

No comment on the Naomi Lim tweet since I can't watch the video.

But 2 of these 3 tweets are from TYT Network people, which is the media arm of the Sanders campaign.  I don't know why you're wasting space on this thread posting them.

I don't know man, Michael Tracey was and is solid on the Russia hoax. Emma Vigeland and the other SJW TYT affiliates also influence lots of young left wingers who in turn influence their parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.

Also that vid contained a Gen X woman complaining that Biden held her hands without asking first.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The one thing that Biden has over his opponents is foreign policy. Biden as well as Hillary as well as Gillibrand who is in contention for a Cabinet post all have that.

Warren, Harris and Sanders all lack that.

The only person it doesnt affect is Pete Buttigieg who willl be in Biden cabinet as well, even if he doesnt make Veep.

Biden had a cordial relationship with Ariel Sharon and Olmert, Olmert was supposed to be PM instead of Netanyahu

[GeneralMacArthur]

Emma Vigeland and the other SJW TYT affiliates also influence lots of young left wingers who in turn influence their parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.

Not really.  Older generations know that their children are easily-influenced idiots.

They remember when they were kids in the 60s and got looped into politics by anti-American jerks who marched with Viet Minh flags.  They went home and screamed at their parents about all the new political knowledge they had gained, and their parents rolled their eyes and voted for Nixon.

Your parents lived through Obama, W, Clinton, HW, Reagan, and maybe Carter and Nixon.  You, with your edgy anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories and attack talking points, that you heard from some grifters on YouTube, are not going to change their mind.

[I Can Now Die Happy]

Emma Vigeland and the other SJW TYT affiliates also influence lots of young left wingers who in turn influence their parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.

Not really.  Older generations know that their children are easily-influenced idiots.

They remember when they were kids in the 60s and got looped into politics by anti-American jerks who marched with Viet Minh flags.  They went home and screamed at their parents about all the new political knowledge they had gained, and their parents rolled their eyes and voted for Nixon.

Your parents lived through Obama, W, Clinton, HW, Reagan, and maybe Carter and Nixon.  You, with your edgy anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories and attack talking points, that you heard from some grifters on YouTube, are not going to change their mind.

I am not one of those young SJW leftists though. And you have to be wary of their power over the Democratic Party and Democrats. They brought Bernie from obscurity to almost winning the 2016 Iowa Caucus and winning many states and 41% of the vote. Gotta watch out! They're more than capable of bringing down Biden.

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1170376178915393537

[Higgins]

Watch the socialists defend Trump now because evil Joe Biden attacked him

[henster]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1170376178915393537

Beyond parody...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/joe-biden-once-said-democrats-needed-a-liberal-george-wallace

[Mr. Smith]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1170376178915393537

Beyond parody...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/joe-biden-once-said-democrats-needed-a-liberal-george-wallace

Indeed.

Not to mention, that the comparison is rather unfair to Wallace anyway, who himself is probably closer to George Washington than Trump anyway.

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1170376178915393537

I can’t with the virtue signaling and this fake veneer that Trump is an aberration with his racist and misogynistic behavior.

[S019]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1170376178915393537

Well, he's not wrong. Trump has built an inherently racist culture, and it is necessary to defeat Trump to purge that culture

[S019]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1170376178915393537

Well, he's not wrong. Trump has built an inherently racist culture, and it is necessary to defeat Trump to purge that culture. Polls show that Biden is the best candidate to beat Trump, and thus by nominating Biden, we have the best chance of making the racist clown (Trump) lose.

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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1170376178915393537

Was George Wallace a friend of Biden's like Strom Thurmond and James Eastland were? I mean, he seemed to be friends with these 2 Presidents.



Quick, someone photoshop Trump into this picture.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Can we not  up the thread by posting really big pictures?  Use the size attributes in the img tag to get it to a normal size.

[John Dule]

We are literally watching this man decompose before our eyes in real time. This isn't a campaign; it's performance art.

[President Johnson]

Interesting Article:

A Joe Biden- Gretchen Whitmer Ticket? It May Happen

I have been talking to a number of prominent Democrats about possible running mates for Joe Biden in the event that he wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

Biden’s vice-presidential selection would be critical, and not only for its effect on the campaign. If he were to win and only serve one term, the vice-presidential nominee would likely have the inside track for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2024.

[...]

Whitmer is 48, and Biden will be 77 in November. A Biden- Whitmer ticket would be a perfect balance in terms of gender, age, and geography. And both are center-left in terms of ideology.

A Biden-Whitmer ticket would be a match made in heaven. And I think it may happen.

Full Article on InsiderNJ


I'd absolutely LOVE this ticket and Gretchen Whitmer was the frontrunner for, but I can't imagine she runs for vice president about 18-20 months into her first gubernatorial term.

Wikipedia lists this article as source she endorsed Joe Biden, but I didn't find any other source that she actually did. But it would be wonderful if they team up.

[Podgy the Bear]

Interesting Article:

A Joe Biden- Gretchen Whitmer Ticket? It May Happen

I have been talking to a number of prominent Democrats about possible running mates for Joe Biden in the event that he wins the Democratic presidential nomination.

Biden’s vice-presidential selection would be critical, and not only for its effect on the campaign. If he were to win and only serve one term, the vice-presidential nominee would likely have the inside track for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2024.

[...]

Whitmer is 48, and Biden will be 77 in November. A Biden- Whitmer ticket would be a perfect balance in terms of gender, age, and geography. And both are center-left in terms of ideology.

A Biden-Whitmer ticket would be a match made in heaven. And I think it may happen.

Full Article on InsiderNJ


I'd absolutely LOVE this ticket and Gretchen Whitmer was the frontrunner for, but I can't imagine she runs for vice president about 18-20 months into her first gubernatorial term.

Why not?  Everyone's talking about putting Stacey Abrams on the ticket--a former Georgia state legislator who lost an election for governor.  I would rather have a governor than a Senator/House member on the ticket (shows executive experience--perhaps even more significant with Biden as the presidential nominee).

And Gretchen Whitmer looks to be a strong addition on several levels.