Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

[YE]

Warren is the only candidate with no questions asked by any candidate. Sanders doesn't ask him that he had no sympathy for Medicareforall & only supported in last moment after most Presidential candidates had already done or about her hawkish stances & promoting endless wars or voting for massive military budgets.

The moderates don't attack her for her temperament or unelectability vs Trump in a GE. She has gotten a free pass. Sanders has to answer the tough questions of Medicare for all & she can just say sweet words about structural change..

Did you watch the debate at all? John Delaney called her plans fairy tale economics.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Warren is the only candidate with no questions asked by any candidate. Sanders doesn't ask him that he had no sympathy for Medicareforall & only supported in last moment after most Presidential candidates had already done or about her hawkish stances & promoting endless wars or voting for massive military budgets.

The moderates don't attack her for her temperament or unelectability vs Trump in a GE. She has gotten a free pass. Sanders has to answer the tough questions of Medicare for all & she can just say sweet words about structural change..

Did you watch the debate at all? John Delaney called her plans fairy tale economics.

That was a policy attack.  We have yet to have a serious discussion about Warren's viability in a general election.  We also, to my great irritation, continue to abstain from having such a discussion about Sanders.

Given that Warren supports incredibly unpopular policies such as reparations, forgiving all student loans, abolition of private insurance, breaking up well-liked corporations, and raising taxes on the middle class (which she is also too afraid to be straight about, even on a friendly debate stage), I would seriously question her viability against Trump.

Meanwhile we've had nothing but discussions about Biden's electability these last few weeks, and he's been the primary, if not sole, focus of Trump+GOP attacks for the last six months.  Yet he's still dominating Trump in every poll.

[GoTfan]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

[Rookie Yinzer]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

The Sanders camp has Susan Sarandon out campaigning at rallies saying Bernie is “not someone who used to be a Republican”.

Why? I know Bernie doesn’t look at the other candidates the way his aides do. But why does he keep bringing toxic people like Sarandon and Sirota into his campaign? This was an obvious dig at Warren, who Bernie has defended at nearly every turn.

[Progressive Pessimist]

The Sanders camp has Susan Sarandon out campaigning at rallies saying Bernie is “not someone who used to be a Republican”.

Why? I know Bernie doesn’t look at the other candidates the way his aides do. But why does he keep bringing toxic people like Sarandon and Sirota into his campaign? This was an obvious dig at Warren, who Bernie has defended at nearly every turn.

Susan Sarandon is a great actress, but she is a very clear example of a counterproductive political actor. It's incredibly frustrating.

[Saint Milei]

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1162433238952030209

[Beet]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

They like to throw stones from glass houses. If Warren had voted for the 1994 crime bill, to deregulate the derivatives market, to give gun manufacturers legal immunity, or against immigration reform, they would absolutely excorciate her over it.

[GeneralMacArthur]

The Sanders camp has Susan Sarandon out campaigning at rallies saying Bernie is “not someone who used to be a Republican”.

Why? I know Bernie doesn’t look at the other candidates the way his aides do. But why does he keep bringing toxic people like Sarandon and Sirota into his campaign? This was an obvious dig at Warren, who Bernie has defended at nearly every turn.

That makes six Jill Stein supporters who are officially either surrogates or part of the Sanders campaign, at least that I can think of off the top of my head.

Nina Turner
Brie Gray
RoseAnn DeMoro
Susan Sarandon
Shaun King
Cornel West

...has Killer Mike started doing rallies for him yet?  That would be another one.

So strange that all these people -- who were such principled progressives in 2016 that they couldn't in good conscience vote for Clinton -- all decided to support Sanders instead of Warren.  Gee I wonder what Sanders has that Warren doesn't have!

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/1163605916383498240

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Warren is a major party candidate and gives Dems an alternative choice to Biden I will happily vote for in Cali primary next March

[Dr. Arch]

My support has been steadily solidifying for Warren over the last couple of months. I'm waiting to see her performance vs Biden to make a decision.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

People tend to forget about the women sex abuse scandal at the outset of Biden's campaign, just remember what he did to those women, even Hilary, where Biden held on too tightly and wanted him to let go, as well as gaffe of busing

[catographer]

People tend to forget about the women sex abuse scandal at the outset of Biden's campaign, just remember what he did to those women, even Hilary, where Biden held on too tightly and wanted him to let go, as well as gaffe of busing

You’re very misinformed. There was no sex abuse scandal involving Joe Biden. Multiple women alleged that he made them uncomfortable by touching them on shoulders, violating their personal space. Nobody accused him of any sexual harassment, assault, abuse, or misconduct. I’m not defending his behavior, but if we are gonna criticize him then we need to be accurate about what happened.

[GoTfan]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

Anyone who supports Sanders is a Bernie Bro according to Atlas.

[Shadows]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

They like to throw stones from glass houses. If Warren had voted for the 1994 crime bill, to deregulate the derivatives market, to give gun manufacturers legal immunity, or against immigration reform, they would absolutely excorciate her over it.

Given her being a Republican then, she would have probably voted for it. She did something worse. She stood by & cheered & supported the Republican party a it slashed taxes from 70% to 28% odd, gutted all regulations, engaged in racial hostility against African Americans, gutted trade unions, appointed people like Thomas & on & on & on.

And she supported the Republican party all this while because she was worried about government taking an activist role. She was a hard right winger then.

And she still voted for 700B $ for the military to wage war all around the war. And then she hopped on the Medicare-for-all bandwagon when she was running for President. And she lied about being Native American throughout her history.

[YE]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

They like to throw stones from glass houses. If Warren had voted for the 1994 crime bill, to deregulate the derivatives market, to give gun manufacturers legal immunity, or against immigration reform, they would absolutely excorciate her over it.

Given her being a Republican then, she would have probably voted for it. She did something worse. She stood by & cheered & supported the Republican party a it slashed taxes from 70% to 28% odd, gutted all regulations, engaged in racial hostility against African Americans, gutted trade unions, appointed people like Thomas & on & on & on.

And she supported the Republican party all this while because she was worried about government taking an activist role. She was a hard right winger then.

This flat out isn't true.

Her first presidential vote, in 1972, had been cast against a man she said she disliked passionately, Richard Nixon. But reflecting on how little she had paid attention to day-to-day politics at the time, she couldn’t immediately recall who had been running against him. When told it was Democrat George McGovern, she said, Yes, she would have voted for him but didn’t have any specific memory of having done so. (She was living in New Jersey at the time.)

Going to the polls, she said, was nothing new for her. Warren’s mother had been a poll worker and brought her young daughter to the polls each Election Day.

Nixon was re-elected that year, of course, but resigned and was replaced by Gerald Ford. Warren said she had voted for him in 1976, believing that “Ford was a decent man.”

In 1980, she said, she was a registered independent living in Missouri City, Texas, and cast her vote to re-elect Carter.

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/elizabeth-warren-opens-up-about-her-choices-in-every-presidential-election-since-1972/

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Are you seriously trotting out the Native American issue in this thread? Warren grew up hearing family stories about her supposed Native American ancestry; her parents eloped because her father’s family disliked the idea of their son marrying a woman descended from Native Americans. As our cultural understanding of the issue has become more nuanced over time, Warren has worked to clarify her claims and the effect they had (or didn’t have) on her career.

Seriously, complain about the DNA test if you want (and Lord knows I think she’d be polling higher than Biden had she not released it), but saying she’s “lied ... all her life” is flat-out nonsense.

[YE]

The Sanders camp has Susan Sarandon out campaigning at rallies saying Bernie is “not someone who used to be a Republican”.

Why? I know Bernie doesn’t look at the other candidates the way his aides do. But why does he keep bringing toxic people like Sarandon and Sirota into his campaign? This was an obvious dig at Warren, who Bernie has defended at nearly every turn.

Probably because Sanders doesn't trust Dem Party insiders. Honestly one of his biggest mistakes may have been not assembling a competent presidential staff before he became a household name and developed a cult that while increases his chances of winning, promotes a toxic culture in this day and age, and such culture makes it easy to get loons like Sarandon who say nonsense running his campaign.

[YE]

Warren is the only candidate with no questions asked by any candidate. Sanders doesn't ask him that he had no sympathy for Medicareforall & only supported in last moment after most Presidential candidates had already done or about her hawkish stances & promoting endless wars or voting for massive military budgets.

The moderates don't attack her for her temperament or unelectability vs Trump in a GE. She has gotten a free pass. Sanders has to answer the tough questions of Medicare for all & she can just say sweet words about structural change..

Did you watch the debate at all? John Delaney called her plans fairy tale economics.

That was a policy attack.  We have yet to have a serious discussion about Warren's viability in a general election.  We also, to my great irritation, continue to abstain from having such a discussion about Sanders.

Given that Warren supports incredibly unpopular policies such as reparations, forgiving all student loans, abolition of private insurance, breaking up well-liked corporations, and raising taxes on the middle class (which she is also too afraid to be straight about, even on a friendly debate stage), I would seriously question her viability against Trump.

Meanwhile we've had nothing but discussions about Biden's electability these last few weeks, and he's been the primary, if not sole, focus of Trump+GOP attacks for the last six months.  Yet he's still dominating Trump in every poll.

John Delaney, IIRC, mentioned electability in the same context as calling Warren's plan fairly tail economics that Democrats win when they run on "real solutions".

Reparations and abolishing ICE (which you didn't name) are the two policies that likely aren't popular among main Warren's proposals. As for private insurance, people don't like dealing with bureaucratic insurance companies; what they like is the coverage they receive and there doctor. And "well liked corporations"? That might as well be any oxymoron to be frank, considering it seems to have support on all sides of the political spectrum. And raising taxes on the middle class bit is misleading because private insurance is basically a private tax as is (though to be fair, that requires an offensive PR campaign to pull off).

Biden hasn't even been in the race for six months, and if anything is attacked more from Dems than the GOP right now. But the thing with Biden is he's electable on paper but simply hasn't run good campaigns in past presidential bids, including 2020 so far, and has made a number of verbal gaffes in recent weeks to the point where many people, are wondering whether his mind is deteriorating. If the 2012 Biden who obliterated Paul Ryan in the VP debate were to magically show up, he'd beat Trump but I don't think that'll happen and thus don't think he's that likely to win the primary yet alone the GE.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

They like to throw stones from glass houses. If Warren had voted for the 1994 crime bill, to deregulate the derivatives market, to give gun manufacturers legal immunity, or against immigration reform, they would absolutely excorciate her over it.

Given her being a Republican then, she would have probably voted for it. She did something worse. She stood by & cheered & supported the Republican party a it slashed taxes from 70% to 28% odd, gutted all regulations, engaged in racial hostility against African Americans, gutted trade unions, appointed people like Thomas & on & on & on.

And she supported the Republican party all this while because she was worried about government taking an activist role. She was a hard right winger then.

And she still voted for 700B $ for the military to wage war all around the war. And then she hopped on the Medicare-for-all bandwagon when she was running for President. And she lied about being Native American throughout her history.

🤔

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

It's still an extremely reductionist term that whitewashes his supporter base and erases Bernie's female supporters (and supporters of color).

Talk about the cultists all you want (I don't like Sarandon either), but the moment people start dismissing our voices that aren't white or male, it starts treading dangerously close to racism.

[GoTfan]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

They like to throw stones from glass houses. If Warren had voted for the 1994 crime bill, to deregulate the derivatives market, to give gun manufacturers legal immunity, or against immigration reform, they would absolutely excorciate her over it.

Given her being a Republican then, she would have probably voted for it. She did something worse. She stood by & cheered & supported the Republican party a it slashed taxes from 70% to 28% odd, gutted all regulations, engaged in racial hostility against African Americans, gutted trade unions, appointed people like Thomas & on & on & on.

And she supported the Republican party all this while because she was worried about government taking an activist role. She was a hard right winger then.

And she still voted for 700B $ for the military to wage war all around the war. And then she hopped on the Medicare-for-all bandwagon when she was running for President. And she lied about being Native American throughout her history.

People like you are making us Sanders supporters look bad.

If you support him but not Warren, I really don't know what else to say.

[JG]

The Bernie Bros ^TM will say anything to ruin Warren

Yes, because every single Sanders supporter absolutely despises Warren.

The vast majority of his supporters would be pretty happy with Warren. But keep painting us with the same brush; it worked out well three years ago.

He didn’t say Sanders supporters. He said Bernie Bros and they are absolutely grilling Warren simply for not being their God.

It's still an extremely reductionist term that whitewashes his supporter base and erases Bernie's female supporters (and supporters of color).

Talk about the cultists all you want (I don't like Sarandon either), but the moment people start dismissing our voices that aren't white or male, it starts treading dangerously close to racism.

What? They weren'tt accusing Bernie supporters of trashing Warren. They were accusing a certain subset of Sander supporters of trashing Warren.