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« Reply #925 on: August 25, 2019, 10:22:37 AM »

I’m pumped for Warren’s town hall in Seattle today.
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« Reply #926 on: August 25, 2019, 10:44:39 PM »

Warren and her campaign have repeatedly crossed a Culinary picket at the Palms Casino Resort in Nevada

Yep, I read about that too. I wonder if this could mean anything down the line, considering how crucial the Union is to winning the state's primary.

One infraction probably means nothing though.
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« Reply #927 on: August 25, 2019, 10:47:10 PM »

Her "town hall" today was more like a rally with a couple of questions at the end, since way more people showed up than anticipated (which is why they had to change the location at the last minute.) It's estimated that 15,000 people showed up today, and I had to wait over three hours to get a photo with her. You might say Warren's a bit popular here in Seattle.
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« Reply #928 on: August 25, 2019, 10:50:06 PM »

Her "town hall" today was more like a rally with a couple of questions at the end, since way more people showed up than anticipated (which is why they had to change the location at the last minute.) It's estimated that 15,000 people showed up today, and I had to wait over three hours to get a photo with her. You might say Warren's a bit popular here in Seattle.
She has the momentum. She and Joe are the only.ones who can win the general IMO, so good to see her doing well.
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« Reply #929 on: August 26, 2019, 03:35:45 PM »

Warren has the momentum and if Markey retains his seat, Joe Kennedy will run in Special
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« Reply #930 on: August 26, 2019, 10:23:07 PM »

So I finally checked out her website because she has all this momentum and whatnot....and it is ummm...pretty terrible....maybe it is better if you give her your email, but if you do not, a 3rd grader could have done a better site for her bio
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« Reply #931 on: August 26, 2019, 11:45:56 PM »

So I finally checked out her website because she has all this momentum and whatnot....and it is ummm...pretty terrible....maybe it is better if you give her your email, but if you do not, a 3rd grader could have done a better site for her bio

The crazy thing about Warren's online presence is that her much-touted plans ("I have a plan for that") aren't even on her website.  Her website just has blurbs.  Her actual plans are published on Medium.

On top of that, 95% of the content in her actual plans is her explaining what the problem is and why it's important to solve it and reiterating just how much we need to solve it.  For instance, a Warren plan for making my bed may go like

Quote from: Elizabeth Warren
I Have A Plan For That:  Making Your Bed

A neatly-made bed is an important part of American life.  From the time when I was a little girl being tucked in by my mother, to tucking my grandkids in at night, made beds have been an important part of my life.

Statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans do not make their beds.  I understand the value of a neatly-made bed.  When I travel around this country I talk to everyday Americans and hear their concerns about not being able to make their own beds.

Why is this important?  Studies show that people get 20% better sleep when they make their beds.  Making your bed makes your room look tidier, which give you a better sense of order, mental ease, and self-esteem.  Your romantic partner may also think of you as childish if you can't even make your own bed in the morning.

It is especially important to call out that people of color (POC) are disproportionately affected by unmade beds as they get, on average, 11% less sleep at night than white people.  Women are also disproportionately affected by this because they are more likely than men to make the beds of their children.

This is a serious problem in America and we need a solution.  For this reason, I am proposing that we spend $250 million on a task force to teach Americans how to make their beds, with a particular focus on disadvantaged groups such as POC and women.  I will pay for this by asking the wealthiest 1% of millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share.

We should have done this a long time ago, but big-moneyed interests and corporate lobbyists in Washington don't want you to make your own bed.  They pay your elected politicians off to keep them from solving this problem.  Enough is enough.

If you support Elizabeth Warren standing up against a rigged political and economic system, click here to chip in $50.
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« Reply #932 on: August 27, 2019, 10:33:30 AM »

Ok, but will Atlas pick it up? Probably not, but stay tuned, folks!



It’s literally three posts above you.

And as I predicted, Atlas didn't care.

What exactly do you want from us? Drop Elizabeth, who has a long and storied history of standing up for workers rights over a circumstantial and likely factually exaggerated hit piece, and endorse your neoliberal candidate who puts people in jail for marijuanna offences and school truancy? Like, for real.

Oh please, Harris could accidentally sneeze on a baby and this forum would be rioting.

Trump would have a field day if that happened.
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« Reply #933 on: August 27, 2019, 06:14:24 PM »

So I finally checked out her website because she has all this momentum and whatnot....and it is ummm...pretty terrible....maybe it is better if you give her your email, but if you do not, a 3rd grader could have done a better site for her bio

The crazy thing about Warren's online presence is that her much-touted plans ("I have a plan for that") aren't even on her website.  Her website just has blurbs.  Her actual plans are published on Medium.

On top of that, 95% of the content in her actual plans is her explaining what the problem is and why it's important to solve it and reiterating just how much we need to solve it.  For instance, a Warren plan for making my bed may go like

Quote from: Elizabeth Warren
I Have A Plan For That:  Making Your Bed

A neatly-made bed is an important part of American life.  From the time when I was a little girl being tucked in by my mother, to tucking my grandkids in at night, made beds have been an important part of my life.

Statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans do not make their beds.  I understand the value of a neatly-made bed.  When I travel around this country I talk to everyday Americans and hear their concerns about not being able to make their own beds.

Why is this important?  Studies show that people get 20% better sleep when they make their beds.  Making your bed makes your room look tidier, which give you a better sense of order, mental ease, and self-esteem.  Your romantic partner may also think of you as childish if you can't even make your own bed in the morning.

It is especially important to call out that people of color (POC) are disproportionately affected by unmade beds as they get, on average, 11% less sleep at night than white people.  Women are also disproportionately affected by this because they are more likely than men to make the beds of their children.

This is a serious problem in America and we need a solution.  For this reason, I am proposing that we spend $250 million on a task force to teach Americans how to make their beds, with a particular focus on disadvantaged groups such as POC and women.  I will pay for this by asking the wealthiest 1% of millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share.

We should have done this a long time ago, but big-moneyed interests and corporate lobbyists in Washington don't want you to make your own bed.  They pay your elected politicians off to keep them from solving this problem.  Enough is enough.

If you support Elizabeth Warren standing up against a rigged political and economic system, click here to chip in $50.

Making your bed traps in heat and sweat though which makes it a thriving habitat for dust mites. The better thing to do is to still make your bed, but to not fold it all the way up to or past your pillow. Leaving the blanket folded maybe halfway away from your pillow allows it to air out and make it a more sanitary place to sleep.

I am 100% serious about this by the way. Take it from an obsessive-compulsive germaphobe like myself. I couldn't resist.
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« Reply #934 on: August 27, 2019, 06:47:09 PM »


Making your bed traps in heat and sweat though which makes it a thriving habitat for dust mites. The better thing to do is to still make your bed, but to not fold it all the way up to or past your pillow. Leaving the blanket folded maybe halfway away from your pillow allows it to air out and make it a more sanitary place to sleep.

I am 100% serious about this by the way. Take it from an obsessive-compulsive germaphobe like myself. I couldn't resist.

Who covers up their pillow when they make their bed?  Weird.  I always fold it back on itself.
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« Reply #935 on: August 27, 2019, 06:47:58 PM »


Making your bed traps in heat and sweat though which makes it a thriving habitat for dust mites. The better thing to do is to still make your bed, but to not fold it all the way up to or past your pillow. Leaving the blanket folded maybe halfway away from your pillow allows it to air out and make it a more sanitary place to sleep.

I am 100% serious about this by the way. Take it from an obsessive-compulsive germaphobe like myself. I couldn't resist.

Who covers up their pillow when they make their bed?  Weird.  I always fold it back on itself.

I'm not saying I do, but I have seen it.
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« Reply #936 on: August 29, 2019, 03:50:18 AM »

I'm basically supporting Elizabeth Warren at this point. I don't buy into the so-called electability issue. John Kerry and Hillary Clinton were supposed to be electable. I'm not afraid to run someone with firm convictions and someone that will take the fight right to Trump. I have no doubt she'll be able to throw it back to Trump.

As for her Senate seat, I hope the legislature in Massachusetts will change the law once again and require the temporary vacancy be filled by someone of the same party.

Electability has always been a fundamentally stupid argument.
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« Reply #937 on: August 29, 2019, 11:21:19 PM »

I'm basically supporting Elizabeth Warren at this point. I don't buy into the so-called electability issue. John Kerry and Hillary Clinton were supposed to be electable. I'm not afraid to run someone with firm convictions and someone that will take the fight right to Trump. I have no doubt she'll be able to throw it back to Trump.

As for her Senate seat, I hope the legislature in Massachusetts will change the law once again and require the temporary vacancy be filled by someone of the same party.

Electability has always been a fundamentally stupid argument.

I remember after Mike Castle lost the Republican Senate primary in 2010, you had Dick Morris going around saying that since O'Donnell beat him in the primary, she'd do just as well if not better than he did in the general.

That said, I'm not as concerned about Warren's electability as I was a few months ago. I think I would vote for her in the primary if I was motivated to turnout to vote for it, but I honestly don't care too much for any of the candidates running. I am just planning on voting for whoever the Democratic nominee is in November and for Democrats for Congress and state legislature. Fortunately, I live right in the heart of two swing seats at the federal and state level, so it'll actually be worth showing up for that.
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« Reply #938 on: August 30, 2019, 08:16:52 AM »

I'm basically supporting Elizabeth Warren at this point. I don't buy into the so-called electability issue. John Kerry and Hillary Clinton were supposed to be electable. I'm not afraid to run someone with firm convictions and someone that will take the fight right to Trump. I have no doubt she'll be able to throw it back to Trump.

As for her Senate seat, I hope the legislature in Massachusetts will change the law once again and require the temporary vacancy be filled by someone of the same party.

Electability has always been a fundamentally stupid argument.

I remember after Mike Castle lost the Republican Senate primary in 2010, you had Dick Morris going around saying that since O'Donnell beat him in the primary, she'd do just as well if not better than he did in the general.

That said, I'm not as concerned about Warren's electability as I was a few months ago. I think I would vote for her in the primary if I was motivated to turnout to vote for it, but I honestly don't care too much for any of the candidates running. I am just planning on voting for whoever the Democratic nominee is in November and for Democrats for Congress and state legislature. Fortunately, I live right in the heart of two swing seats at the federal and state level, so it'll actually be worth showing up for that.

There are extreme examples, but they are extremely rare.

I'm just tired of hearing about how Joe Biden is the only way we're going to win back the White House. This is not 1972 and Elizabeth Warren is not George McGovern. Democrats win by running inspiring candidates that are looking towards the future. Usually, I'd say age does matter in that sense, but it matters a lot less with a woman. I'm actually surprised Elizabeth Warren recently turned 70 because she seems to be much younger.
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« Reply #939 on: August 30, 2019, 08:49:04 AM »
« Edited: August 30, 2019, 10:36:11 AM by GP270watch »

 Her candidacy has the ability to catch fire. If white women embrace her in any kind of significant shift that would make her very electable. If the working and middle class look at her message and think "I'd like for somebody to help me and invest in me for a change" that can grow her support quickly. At her events the crowds are starting to chant her plans. It's not "build the wall" or "send them back", it's the 2 cent tax on huge fortunes, which in this 2020 campaign is probably the most standout policy proposal so far. Warren's supporters stick around to take a selfie with her and talk about how they're drowning in student debt or the jobs they work and how they struggle to find childcare. I really believe it's a campaign that can get even more momentum.

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« Reply #940 on: August 30, 2019, 09:51:36 AM »
« Edited: August 31, 2019, 07:06:20 PM by jacobmeteorite »

I'm just so proud of her.

I volunteered for her back in Feb, when she had a rally in Glendale, CA, and people were so excited and optimistic. We had 1,500 people fill up the theater, and about 400 people outside (and EW went out and greeted them before coming inside the main building). I worked as an usher and part-time security (to block the press from bombarding her before she had a chance to meet all the ADA/physically handicapped folks and took pictures with each person.) And she stayed until everyone in the theater got a picture.

Cut to a week and a half ago when she was here in Los Angeles, I volunteered again, and I was SHOCKED at how many people came out to see her. We easily had close to 6,000 people in the theater, in the middle of a boiling hot summer Wednesday evening, and she stayed for 4 hours until every single person got a selfie. Her family is so down-to-earth and friendly, and you can tell that they're floored with the level of enthusiasm and respect for EW.

I've met her twice now, and this woman is STRONG. While she's quite thin in-person, she's like solid sheet rock. Even though it can be so overwhelming to have that many people flock to you, she never once wavered, flinched, or snapped at anyone (and I wouldn't blame any person if they did, since the energy can be overwhelming). She's funny, kind, and most importantly, gives the warmest bear hug. People want to see her deliver gut punch after gut punch, and she will DEFINITELY go super saiyan on Trump.

I know none of this is rooted in data, and it's simply anecdotal, but there is so much energy and enthusiasm for her. People are really protective of her, and I genuinely believe she'll be able to reach Obama level of enthusiasm.

People were afraid of saying they supported Hillary in 2016. Hell, I live in the bluest of states, and even I was too afraid to have an I'm With Her bumper sticker, for fear of getting my car keyed or my tires slashed.

But not with Warren. People are fiercely and openly supporting her vision.
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« Reply #941 on: August 31, 2019, 04:28:45 PM »
« Edited: August 31, 2019, 04:36:47 PM by Cory Booker »

Biden assault weapons ban and him coming to SC to court black voters does earn him the respect of blacks.

Medicare for all, doesnt cut it to get blacks away from Biden. Affordable Housing and Section 8 vouchers does.

Thats why strong debate performances by Harris and Warren got them temporary bumps
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« Reply #942 on: August 31, 2019, 09:21:27 PM »

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« Reply #943 on: August 31, 2019, 09:48:37 PM »

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« Reply #944 on: August 31, 2019, 10:13:43 PM »


We need this!
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« Reply #945 on: September 01, 2019, 09:42:55 AM »

Warren with the Markey endorsement isnt pulling in enough black voters, Biden already has black voters. Also, Medicare for all is a great program, Blacks want to hear about opening up more affordable housing programs for themselves, more Section 8 vouchers is one way to get them. Healthcare is only 1 social program.
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« Reply #946 on: September 01, 2019, 12:24:04 PM »

“I’m just going to be blunt,” she said on MSNBC in late February of this year. “I do not believe in unilateral disarmament. We got to go into these fights, and we gotta be willing to win these fights.” By rebuking “unilateral disarmament,” Warren means this: All options are on the table for funding her potential general election campaign against Trump. While she, like other Democratic candidates, have vowed to reject corporate and super PAC money during the primary, the general election is a different ballgame. To beat Trump, we have to play like Trump, she argues.

At a campaign event in Iowa, she said “I don’t believe democracy should be for sale to billionaires and giant corporations. I don’t take corporate PAC money. Shoot, I don’t take PAC money of any kind.” But if Warren is not willing to put our democracy up for sale during the primary, then what makes the general election any different? We are left to wonder whether Warren is just paying lip service to take on the billionaire class, which she apparently plans to cozy up to during the general election.

Ultimately, Warren is wrong when she suggests that rejecting corporate money during the general election constitutes “unilateral disarmament.” It is actually quite the opposite. Money does not win elections – people do. We need to look no further than to 2016, when Hillary outspent Trump and still lost.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-campaign-funding-super-pac-money-corporate-donations-2020-election-a9084451.html

Will be interesting to see Warren raising money from Goldman & JP Morgan to fight Trump in the GE !
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« Reply #947 on: September 01, 2019, 12:50:58 PM »

“I’m just going to be blunt,” she said on MSNBC in late February of this year. “I do not believe in unilateral disarmament. We got to go into these fights, and we gotta be willing to win these fights.” By rebuking “unilateral disarmament,” Warren means this: All options are on the table for funding her potential general election campaign against Trump. While she, like other Democratic candidates, have vowed to reject corporate and super PAC money during the primary, the general election is a different ballgame. To beat Trump, we have to play like Trump, she argues.

At a campaign event in Iowa, she said “I don’t believe democracy should be for sale to billionaires and giant corporations. I don’t take corporate PAC money. Shoot, I don’t take PAC money of any kind.” But if Warren is not willing to put our democracy up for sale during the primary, then what makes the general election any different? We are left to wonder whether Warren is just paying lip service to take on the billionaire class, which she apparently plans to cozy up to during the general election.

Ultimately, Warren is wrong when she suggests that rejecting corporate money during the general election constitutes “unilateral disarmament.” It is actually quite the opposite. Money does not win elections – people do. We need to look no further than to 2016, when Hillary outspent Trump and still lost.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-campaign-funding-super-pac-money-corporate-donations-2020-election-a9084451.html

Will be interesting to see Warren raising money from Goldman & JP Morgan to fight Trump in the GE !
Oh shut up. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #948 on: September 01, 2019, 01:03:00 PM »

“I’m just going to be blunt,” she said on MSNBC in late February of this year. “I do not believe in unilateral disarmament. We got to go into these fights, and we gotta be willing to win these fights.” By rebuking “unilateral disarmament,” Warren means this: All options are on the table for funding her potential general election campaign against Trump. While she, like other Democratic candidates, have vowed to reject corporate and super PAC money during the primary, the general election is a different ballgame. To beat Trump, we have to play like Trump, she argues.

At a campaign event in Iowa, she said “I don’t believe democracy should be for sale to billionaires and giant corporations. I don’t take corporate PAC money. Shoot, I don’t take PAC money of any kind.” But if Warren is not willing to put our democracy up for sale during the primary, then what makes the general election any different? We are left to wonder whether Warren is just paying lip service to take on the billionaire class, which she apparently plans to cozy up to during the general election.

Ultimately, Warren is wrong when she suggests that rejecting corporate money during the general election constitutes “unilateral disarmament.” It is actually quite the opposite. Money does not win elections – people do. We need to look no further than to 2016, when Hillary outspent Trump and still lost.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-campaign-funding-super-pac-money-corporate-donations-2020-election-a9084451.html

Will be interesting to see Warren raising money from Goldman & JP Morgan to fight Trump in the GE !
Oh shut up. Roll Eyes

I'll be honest, I've never quite understood the progressives who WANT to get outspent a billion to one by the GOP.
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« Reply #949 on: September 01, 2019, 01:07:56 PM »

“I’m just going to be blunt,” she said on MSNBC in late February of this year. “I do not believe in unilateral disarmament. We got to go into these fights, and we gotta be willing to win these fights.” By rebuking “unilateral disarmament,” Warren means this: All options are on the table for funding her potential general election campaign against Trump. While she, like other Democratic candidates, have vowed to reject corporate and super PAC money during the primary, the general election is a different ballgame. To beat Trump, we have to play like Trump, she argues.

At a campaign event in Iowa, she said “I don’t believe democracy should be for sale to billionaires and giant corporations. I don’t take corporate PAC money. Shoot, I don’t take PAC money of any kind.” But if Warren is not willing to put our democracy up for sale during the primary, then what makes the general election any different? We are left to wonder whether Warren is just paying lip service to take on the billionaire class, which she apparently plans to cozy up to during the general election.

Ultimately, Warren is wrong when she suggests that rejecting corporate money during the general election constitutes “unilateral disarmament.” It is actually quite the opposite. Money does not win elections – people do. We need to look no further than to 2016, when Hillary outspent Trump and still lost.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-campaign-funding-super-pac-money-corporate-donations-2020-election-a9084451.html

Will be interesting to see Warren raising money from Goldman & JP Morgan to fight Trump in the GE !

What type of dumbass who works at Goldman would donate to Warren?
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