Israeli General Election: April 9, 2019

[Oryxslayer]

New Migdam/Channel 12 poll:

B&W: 32
Likud: 28
Labor: 10
Hadash/Ta'al: 7
United Torah Judaism: 7
Shas: 6
New Right: 5
URWP: 5
Zehut: 4
Gesher: 4
Yisrael Beiteinu: 4
Ra'am/Balad: 4
Meretz: 4

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Kulanu - 2.6%

When analyzing these numbers, its important to remember that Channel 13 was also fed a similar data set, but has different weights. They found Gesher and YB to be below the threshold, and Kulanu to be above, but the end result is the same: Right wing majority if everyone can work together. But parties like Zehut, Kulanu, and Gesher have uncertain loyalties, and anyone of them might prefer to provide the one vote needed needed for GC (right now) and get a prized portfolio, rather then be one of eight fighting over government slots.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Are the Russians that came from the 90s wave of immigration integrating (for lack of a better word)? Do second generation Russians identify at all with the old country?

[Oryxslayer]

Oh and also Gaza will be the story of the coming days, so the immediate polls will probably once again be in flux.

[Walmart_shopper]

Are the Russians that came from the 90s wave of immigration integrating (for lack of a better word)? Do second generation Russians identify at all with the old country?

They're fairly well integrated, which is why Yisrael Beitenu is having trouble demonstrating its relevance. The parents remain kind of on the margins of Israeli society to a certain extent, while the kids of those immigrants have gone in all sorts of directions in life, whether Moscow or Yeshiva. Some aren't Jewish, but the vast majority are clearly and unmistakably Israeli Soviet migration is still the bulk of migration to Israel today. And unlike the Russian migration of the 90s, these new migrants are mostly non Jewish, totally detached from Jewish life and identity, and I'm not sure if they even have a political home.

[DL]

I've heard that a typical complaint that Russian immigrants to Israel make is that they can't get easy access to pork to cook their favourite dishes and that vodka is pricey compared to back home.

[DC Al Fine]

How hard is it to get pork in Israel? What are the prices like?

[America Needs R'hllor]

How hard is it to get pork in Israel? What are the prices like?

Depends. There are special Russian supermarkets that sell it in places with high concentrations of immigrants, as well as Christian Arab villages. Not sure about the prices, but my parents are low middle class and don't have much trouble getting it.

[Hnv1]

How hard is it to get pork in Israel? What are the prices like?

Not too much of a trouble. Especially in Haifa/Tel Aviv. It’s more expensive than abroad but not massively (though meat in Israel is just generally more expensive), and there’s a lower variety of products.

[Tintrlvr]

How hard is it to get pork in Israel? What are the prices like?

Depends. There are special Russian supermarkets that sell it in places with high concentrations of immigrants, as well as Christian Arab villages. Not sure about the prices, but my parents are low middle class and don't have much trouble getting it.

Do Druze eat pork?

[DL]

When my grandmother lived in Israel in the 1970s i went to visit twice and wanted to cook a Chinese stir-fry with pork...we found pork pretty easily but I remember my grandmother whispering and asking where to buy it in the market in Tel Aviv and it was as if she was trying to score some illegal drugs!

[America Needs R'hllor]

How hard is it to get pork in Israel? What are the prices like?

Depends. There are special Russian supermarkets that sell it in places with high concentrations of immigrants, as well as Christian Arab villages. Not sure about the prices, but my parents are low middle class and don't have much trouble getting it.

Do Druze eat pork?

The Druze are interesting in that they have two "types"- secular and religious, which are both legitimate according to their tradition- with some of the religious laws only binding a Druze who chose a religious type of life. Eating pork, though, is forbidden for all Druze.

[Continential]

What's it like to like in the West Bank, I heard the reason why most people live there is because the schools are better there.

[Walmart_shopper]

What's it like to like in the West Bank, I heard the reason why most people live there is because the schools are better there.

It's fairly quiet, suburban. A lot of Americansice in the West Bank because there are US-style subdivisions, or maybe there are subdivisions with big homes because there are Americans. But it's definitely not about the schools. It's for one of two reasons. Housing is newer and cheaper. And ideological-religious reasons.

[Walmart_shopper]

I've heard that a typical complaint that Russian immigrants to Israel make is that they can't get easy access to pork to cook their favourite dishes and that vodka is pricey compared to back home.

Getting pork in Israel is like getting good Mexican food in the US. There aren't good places on every corner, but they're pretty common. I live in Jerusalem, which has a smaller Russian population and a huge number of religious Jews and a Muslims. Yet it's not terribly hard to get pork here. In the coastal cities it's even easier.

[Hnv1]

I've heard that a typical complaint that Russian immigrants to Israel make is that they can't get easy access to pork to cook their favourite dishes and that vodka is pricey compared to back home.

Getting pork in Israel is like getting good Mexican food in the US. There aren't good places on every corner, but they're pretty common. I live in Jerusalem, which has a smaller Russian population and a huge number of religious Jews and a Muslims. Yet it's not terribly hard to get pork here. In the coastal cities it's even easier.

I recall from my student days in Jerusalem I had to go the the Russian super market in Agripas for pork, it's behind the street away from haredi eyes.

Some restaurants had pork, but just basic sausages and salamis weren't that easy too find

[Hnv1]

Yachad (Eli Yishai) dropped out and announced his support for UTJ. of minor significance has he was barely scratching the 1%

[Continential]

I'm 99% sure that barely any of the US Presidental candidates understand about a 2 state solution and how many people would be displaced.

[Angel of Death]

It seems wryly fitting that the election that looks to finally kill off the two-state solution will take place on the anniversary of the Deir Yassin massacre.

[Walmart_shopper]

It seems wryly fitting that the election that looks to finally kill off the two-state solution will take place on the anniversary of the Deir Yassin massacre.

Chilling.

[Famous Mortimer]

I'm 99% sure that barely any of the US Presidental candidates understand about a 2 state solution and how many people would be displaced.

Who are you talking about settlers or Palestinian refugees? No one is going to overly concerned about settlers and Palestinian refugees have already been displaced.

[Oryxslayer]

Anyway this thread has been a bit quiet, so I'll bump it with a polling discussion. Last week showed a swing towards the Right in response to Gaza. However, If one heads over to wikipedia the results displayed are a little less harsh then they seem for B&W. A few polls had Gesher getting in last time, so the swing to the right is simply a reversion to the mean.

So will the Gaza bump remain for Bibi, or will things revert to where they were before last week?

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

New Migdam/Channel 13 poll (Seat change since last poll):
Likud - 29 (-1)
B&W - 28 (-2)
Labor - 14 (+4)
United Right - 7 (nc)
Hadash - 6 (-1)
Zehut - 6 (-1)
UTJ - 6 (-1)
New Right - 5 (nc)
Ra'am/Balad - 5 (+1)
Meretz - 5 (nc)
Shas - 5 (+1)
Kulanu - 4 (nc)

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Gesher - 2.9%
Yisrael Beiteinu - no numbers released I could find

46% prefer Netanyahu
37% prefer Gantz

[Biden 2024]

What explains the four seat swing to HaAvoda?

[urutzizu]

What explains the four point swing to HaAvoda?

Seats not percentage points.
But possibly some of the Initial Gantz Hype wearing off and leftists deserting Blue and White because he is taking more right wing positions then even likud of some security issues, like complaining about why that Bedouin village near jerusalem hasnt been demolished yet.

[America Needs R'hllor]

What explains the four point swing to HaAvoda?

Outlier until I see otherwise. So far, they seem to be stable at ~10 seats.