Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Rookie Yinzer]

The Knights of Columbus is just another reason for Biden to avoid Harris, it is not worth all the cultural traps she will walk directly into.

People here who think she is getting picked also don't know anything. How do we know Biden didn't meet with Demings and was swept away by her? His team isn't leaking anything for a reason.

Nobody cares about this. I have literally never heard anyone talk about it in real life.

[Bidenworth2020]

Biden's VP pick obviously won't change my support, but it would certainly suck to lose a lot of the center right support Biden has earned, particularly among seniors. I think Duckworth is really the obvious pick right now and I implore Biden's team to pick her instead of somebody with favorables similar to Hillary's (33/42 last I saw). Do you really think Duckworth, a double amputee and war hero, is going to have negative favorables?

[Devils30]

Biden's VP pick obviously won't change my support, but it would certainly suck to lose a lot of the center right support Biden has earned, particularly among seniors. I think Duckworth is really the obvious pick right now and I implore Biden's team to pick her instead of somebody with favorables similar to Hillary's (33/42 last I saw). Do you really think Duckworth, a double amputee and war hero, is going to have negative favorables?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/kamala_harris_favorableunfavorable-6690.html

Yep.

[Bidenworth2020]

New New York Times article on how seriously each of the 12 contenders are being considered and their priorities/relationship with Biden.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/biden-vice-president-2020.html#click=https://t.co/PiBRDBHsVi

They break down the candidates into being considered "Very Seriously", "Pretty Seriously", "Somewhat Seriously", and "Not too seriously".

Very Seriously

Harris
Warren
Demings
Lance Bottoms
Rice

Pretty Seriously

Lujan Grisham
Duckworth ( )

Somewhat Seriously

Whitmer
Baldwin

Not too Seriously

Abrams
Raimondo
Hassan

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Imagine saying a year ago that Stacey Abrams' prospects of being chosen as VP would be about equal to Gina Raimondo's.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Speaking as someone who was raised in a very catholic family, the K of C is an objectively bad organization and there was absolutely nothing wrong with Kamala questioning Buescheler on it. Saying she hates catholics is a MAJOR stretch and reeks of desperation from the anti-Kamala front on Atlas.

Biden's VP pick obviously won't change my support, but it would certainly suck to lose a lot of the center right support Biden has earned, particularly among seniors. I think Duckworth is really the obvious pick right now and I implore Biden's team to pick her instead of somebody with favorables similar to Hillary's (33/42 last I saw). Do you really think Duckworth, a double amputee and war hero, is going to have negative favorables?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/kamala_harris_favorableunfavorable-6690.html

Yep.

Again, I think you all are seriously overestimating just how much impact this VP pick is going to have on the race. Sure, there's the question on Biden's age, but I seriously doubt anybody really questions whether Harris is capable of taking up the reins of the presidency at any given time.

[Devils30]

Speaking as someone who was raised in a very catholic family, the K of C is an objectively bad organization and there was absolutely nothing wrong with Kamala questioning Buescheler on it. Saying she hates catholics is a MAJOR stretch and reeks of desperation from the anti-Kamala front on Atlas.

Biden's VP pick obviously won't change my support, but it would certainly suck to lose a lot of the center right support Biden has earned, particularly among seniors. I think Duckworth is really the obvious pick right now and I implore Biden's team to pick her instead of somebody with favorables similar to Hillary's (33/42 last I saw). Do you really think Duckworth, a double amputee and war hero, is going to have negative favorables?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/kamala_harris_favorableunfavorable-6690.html

Yep.

Again, I think you all are seriously overestimating just how much impact this VP pick is going to have on the race. Sure, there's the question on Biden's age, but I seriously doubt anybody really questions whether Harris is capable of taking up the reins of the presidency at any given time.

I hear you but I just wonder if its worth Biden getting a smaller margin of victory to appease a certain wing of the Democratic Party. His older voter support is really not a trivial matter and having 53 Senators vs 50 can be a very big deal.

[Da2017]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53088353  good article

[America Needs R'hllor]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53088353  good article

They really should've refrained from doing these power rankings because it's just a joke. Harris is way too high on, like, everything (and it's not that I dislike her). Why is "special power: obviousness" stronger than "special power: timing"? Why is Harris more experienced than Duckworth (who was a veteran, worked in the VA, a Congresswoman and a Senator)? How is Demings' "voter appeal" higher than Duckworth and as high as Michelle Obama? Now is Grisham just 3 in experience, being a State Secretary of Health, Congresswoman and Governor? Ditto for Baldwin? Anyway, lol.

[ShadowRocket]

I wonder if Warren being in the veepstakes makes it more likely she'll be offered Treasury.

There is no chance she gives up her Senate seat unless she's going for VP. I also don't feel like Biden would offer her that post.

I dunno.  The position may not get as much media coverage, but with the President's backing a talented Treasury Secretary can get a lot more done than a single Senator can, even one who commands the limelight.  Treasury is a powerful department.  Plus, there's gotta be something appealing about being America's first female Treasury Secretary.

I'd be inclined to say that Warren doesn't get it but I think she'll be a kingmaker of sorts in terms of whom Biden picks for Treasury. Richard Cordray is my bet on who gets it due to his Warren ties plus the optics of being the former head of the CFPB.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I wonder if Warren being in the veepstakes makes it more likely she'll be offered Treasury.

There is no chance she gives up her Senate seat unless she's going for VP. I also don't feel like Biden would offer her that post.

Because of course, no Republican could ever hope to win a special election for a Senate seat in Massachusetts.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

My VP rankings:

1. Harris
2. KLB
3. Warren
4. Duckworth

That's it.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I don't understand why it is seen as misogynistic to be critical of blatant nepotism.
 
Harris was appointed to he first political positions by Willie Brown while they were dating.

This is clearly not appropriate.  

I don't actually think it is very relevant to Harris's competence or qualifications given what she has accomplished since then.  

But it does seem corrupt to me.  It is much more of an indictment of Brown's ethics, as he was the one in position of power here.  But it also does not reflect well on Harris.

It is perfectly possible that Harris would be in the same position now if she wasn't appointed to these positions.  But why not choose one of the many other women who have proven success completely independent from their dating life?  And more importantly, why not choose someone with no record of willingness to accepting these sort of favors?

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

I wonder if Warren being in the veepstakes makes it more likely she'll be offered Treasury.

There is no chance she gives up her Senate seat unless she's going for VP. I also don't feel like Biden would offer her that post.

Because of course, no Republican could ever hope to win a special election for a Senate seat in Massachusetts.

With the exception of Charlie Baker, this is now true. You may as well consider the possibility of a Republican winning a special election in CA.

[Da2017]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53088353  good article

They really should've refrained from doing these power rankings because it's just a joke. Harris is way too high on, like, everything (and it's not that I dislike her). Why is "special power: obviousness" stronger than "special power: timing"? Why is Harris more experienced than Duckworth (who was a veteran, worked in the VA, a Congresswoman and a Senator)? How is Demings' "voter appeal" higher than Duckworth and as high as Michelle Obama? Now is Grisham just 3 in experience, being a State Secretary of Health, Congresswoman and Governor? Ditto for Baldwin? Anyway, lol.

I don't think Michelle Obama would accept.

[Heebie Jeebie]

I wonder if Warren being in the veepstakes makes it more likely she'll be offered Treasury.

There is no chance she gives up her Senate seat unless she's going for VP. I also don't feel like Biden would offer her that post.

I dunno.  The position may not get as much media coverage, but with the President's backing a talented Treasury Secretary can get a lot more done than a single Senator can, even one who commands the limelight.  Treasury is a powerful department.  Plus, there's gotta be something appealing about being America's first female Treasury Secretary.

I'd be inclined to say that Warren doesn't get it but I think she'll be a kingmaker of sorts in terms of whom Biden picks for Treasury. Richard Cordray is my bet on who gets it due to his Warren ties plus the optics of being the former head of the CFPB.

I hadn't considered Cordray, but he would be an excellent choice for the job.

[Heebie Jeebie]

https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1275108270743715840

[Devils30]

Name recognition polls are meaningless! Of course Demings  Whitmer and Duckworth won't be popular because they are not well known.

[ilikeverin]

https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1275108270743715840

Can we just agree to a blanket moratorium on VP polls? They reflect nothing but name recognition. Nothing at all.

[Storr]

I'll just put it out there, but out of those on the shortlist, my favorite is Duckworth.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I would love Duckworth to be it. So Susana Mendoza would move into that seat, but its Warren and new AG Klobuchar, and SOS Stacy Abrams.😍😍😍

Its Kennedy and Pressley for MA seat

[Meatball Ron]

I would love Duckworth to be it. So Susana Mendoza would move into that seat, but its Warren and new AG Klobuchar, and SOS Stacy Abrams.😍😍😍

Its Kennedy and Pressley for MA seat

Secretary of State Stacey Abrams? Huh? She's great, but a foreign policy position is the last thing she's qualified for given her state legislative experience.

[Bidenworth2020]

I would love Duckworth to be it. So Susana Mendoza would move into that seat, but its Warren and new AG Klobuchar, and SOS Stacy Abrams.😍😍😍

Its Kennedy and Pressley for MA seat

With OC's backing, Duckworth all but locks up the VP slot!

[wbrocks67]

Again, Demings and Duckworth have been nowhere on recent conversation on COVID, the protests etc. One thing very much working in Harris's favor is that she's been out there, a part of the conversation, drafting bills.

Duckworth is so low key, but has no experience on the national stage. Don't understand why she would be a worthwhile pick. There's no vetting, and we have no idea what's in her closet.

[Devils30]

She has a lot of skeletons in her closet. Only was a war hero who sacrificed her body for this country. I’ll take the chance her problems are less than Kamalas.