Election 2018 Open Thread - Part 1

[cg41386]

If McSally loses, is Ducey going to appoint her to the other seat?

He already appointed Jon Kyl a couple months ago.

[pppolitics]

If McSally loses, is Ducey going to appoint her to the other seat?

He already appointed Jon Kyl a couple months ago.

I thought Kyl is going to step down in the senate.

[Tender Branson]

Trump and FLorida R's are highly annoying ...

It's pretty clear that what's left to count are absentee ballots that were postmarked by election day and returned after election day, military ballots from overseas which come in now and provisional ballots.

Those are all legal and correct ballots.

Nobody in Broward or elsewhere is opening the lockbox with hidden Al Gore votes from 2000 to turn them into Nelson/Gillum votes ...

[GeorgiaModerate]

If McSally loses, is Ducey going to appoint her to the other seat?

He already appointed Jon Kyl a couple months ago.

It's been speculated that Kyl might resign after the end of the year, though.

[cg41386]

If McSally loses, is Ducey going to appoint her to the other seat?

He already appointed Jon Kyl a couple months ago.

I thought Kyl is going to step down in the senate.

He hasn’t made a final decision except he definitely won’t be seeking the seat in the special election in 2020.

[Badger]

I read Poliquin will sue, but on what grounds? Ranked choice is not that different from run-offs.

That only the legislature can change the rules for federal elections, and so ballot initiative-driven changes are unconstitutional. Coincidentally, a favorable ruling for him would obliterate decades of pro-voter reforms across the country.

The reason I am nervous about that is because John Roberts and his band of partisan conservative justices came within 1 vote of ruling that redistricting commissions enacted by ballot initiatives are unconstitutional, as only the legislature itself can change the rules regarding redistricting. The ruling was that 'legislature' also included the voters where ballot initiatives exist, but Roberts' dissented very strongly and I'm worried he could try to overturn even such a recent precedent now that Kennedy is gone. He only seems to care about the USSC's legitimacy in cases that don't present a threat to Republicans in elections.

It shouldn't be a problem, but Roberts & friends always seem to rule favorably for Republicans when it comes to things that concern their viability in elections

Not to mention that band of thugs in Black robes don't seem to give a flying s*** about stare decius

[Gass3268]

I read Poliquin will sue, but on what grounds? Ranked choice is not that different from run-offs.

That only the legislature can change the rules for federal elections, and so ballot initiative-driven changes are unconstitutional. Coincidentally, a favorable ruling for him would obliterate decades of pro-voter reforms across the country.

The reason I am nervous about that is because John Roberts and his band of partisan conservative justices came within 1 vote of ruling that redistricting commissions enacted by ballot initiatives are unconstitutional, as only the legislature itself can change the rules regarding redistricting. The ruling was that 'legislature' also included the voters where ballot initiatives exist, but Roberts' dissented very strongly and I'm worried he could try to overturn even such a recent precedent now that Kennedy is gone. He only seems to care about the USSC's legitimacy in cases that don't present a threat to Republicans in elections.

It shouldn't be a problem, but Roberts & friends always seem to rule favorably for Republicans when it comes to things that concern their viability in elections

Not to mention that band of thugs in Black robes don't seem to give a flying s*** about stare decius

There has been some talk about Roberts not overturning decisions made under his court, regardless of his view on it. I'll believe it when I see it, but that's been the talk.

[CellarDoor]

https://twitter.com/DrRyanLove/status/1060993491529023488

[Pollster]

Trump calling for a new election in Arizona?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096

[Badger]

I read Poliquin will sue, but on what grounds? Ranked choice is not that different from run-offs.

That only the legislature can change the rules for federal elections, and so ballot initiative-driven changes are unconstitutional. Coincidentally, a favorable ruling for him would obliterate decades of pro-voter reforms across the country.

The reason I am nervous about that is because John Roberts and his band of partisan conservative justices came within 1 vote of ruling that redistricting commissions enacted by ballot initiatives are unconstitutional, as only the legislature itself can change the rules regarding redistricting. The ruling was that 'legislature' also included the voters where ballot initiatives exist, but Roberts' dissented very strongly and I'm worried he could try to overturn even such a recent precedent now that Kennedy is gone. He only seems to care about the USSC's legitimacy in cases that don't present a threat to Republicans in elections.

It shouldn't be a problem, but Roberts & friends always seem to rule favorably for Republicans when it comes to things that concern their viability in elections

Not to mention that band of thugs in Black robes don't seem to give a flying s*** about stare decius

There has been some talk about Roberts not overturning decisions made under his court, regardless of his view on it. I'll believe it when I see it, but that's been the talk.

I feel the same. Too early to say. I really hope he walks the walk. The fact that he was willing to uphold Obamacare despite pressure not to is a good sign, but....

[Gass3268]

Trump calling for a new election in Arizona?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096

He has no idea what he's talking about, but he's only making things worse and setting the groundwork for him to dispute his own election in 2020.

[Badger]

Oh, I'm too lazy to link right now on my phone, but Trump also just suggested possible Federal intervention in the Florida election count shading, and I quote, there's a lot of crooked things going on down there.


Who would know better, Don?

[Pyro]

Trump calling for a new election in Arizona?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096

Clueless s**thead, as per usual.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Trump calling for a new election in Arizona?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096

He has no idea what he's talking about, but he's only making things worse and setting the groundwork for him to dispute his own election in 2020.

Plus he’s revealing that the RNC believes McSally isn’t going to win.

[Tender Branson]

Signatures are not matching all the time. In every election.

About 1% of all postal ballots are thrown out in every election, in the US, in Austria because of that reason. Or because some voters don't sign the postal ballot at all.

Someone please tell Trump that this is no fraud or corruption. It's simply lazy or dumb voters.

[KingSweden]

Trump calling for a new election in Arizona?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096

Clueless s**thead, as per usual.

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

The Salt Lake Tribune has basically written Love's obituary and predicts that the race will be called later today: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/11/08/rep-mia-love-could-still/

I almost feel bad that only black GOP congresswoman loses when most of her white male colleagues, most of whom are more ideologically reprehensible than her, get to have another term... but obviously I would much rather have McAdams in Congress, so this is a pleasantly surprising result. I knew it would be very close, but I would assigned it a Tilt R rating before a Tilt D one.

[Thatkat04]

Trump calling for a new election in Arizona?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096

He has no idea what he's talking about, but he's only making things worse and setting the groundwork for him to dispute his own election in 2020.

More than likely, which is why if a democrat wins, it needs to be convincingly.

[Gass3268]

The Salt Lake Tribune has basically written Love's obituary and predicts that the race will be called later today: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/11/08/rep-mia-love-could-still/

I almost feel bad that only black GOP congresswoman loses when most of her white male colleagues, most of whom are more ideologically reprehensible than her, get to have another term... but obviously I would much rather have McAdams in Congress, so this is a pleasantly surprising result. I knew it would be very close, but I would assigned it a Tilt R rating before Tilt D one.

The number of Republican women in the House for the next term is going to be very low. Like around 15.

[CellarDoor]

Trump calling for a new election in Arizona?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096

He has no idea what he's talking about, but he's only making things worse and setting the groundwork for him to dispute his own election in 2020.

 

More than likely, which is why if a democrat wins, it needs to be convincingly.

All the more important that we have Democratic governors in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Any word on the AZ state legislative races that were said to potentially flip?

[KingSweden]

Any word on the AZ state legislative races that were said to potentially flip?

Last I saw there was one Senate race within 800 votes

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

538 moving Arizona to LEAN D

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1061001154031685633?s=21

[KingSweden]

https://twitter.com/harrisalexc/status/1060984339964588032

How can you argue that this should be counted?

Do people not know you bubble it in?

[Sestak]

https://twitter.com/harrisalexc/status/1060984339964588032

How can you argue that this should be counted?

Given the vote that allowed GOP to retain the VA CoD...

If that was counted, this should be too.