President Trump is nominating federal appeals court Judge Brett Kavanaugh

[junior chįmp]

BREAKING...Bush Jr. on the Trump train:

pic of clown Bush Jr.

It is ironic how Trump has now nominated two Bush appointees to the Supreme Court, given his professed hatred of the Bush family. And that Bush is praising Trump for this nomination.

Trump is basically Bush Jr. 2.0. Trump just distracts his dimwitted base more red meat than Bush while he picks their pockets

Well, my dislike for Trump isn't as deep as yours is, nor is my opinion of his base that low (given that my father is a Trump voter). But I have said before that most of what Trump has done up to this point (bar his moves on certain aspects of foreign policy and on trade), including such things as deregulation, tax cuts, climate change, healthcare, the federal budget, immigration, and judicial appointments, have been policies that any generic Republican President would have pursued (albeit with less drama than Trump). He really is no different from Bush on most policy issues.

Trump is just a standard 90s Republican. He doesnt believe in any of this shi.t except for political gain and expediency. He probably rawdogs porn stars after giving a speech over at the ''family values'' summit or accepts graft after giving a speech decrying special interests. It's all just for show but his supporters desperately want to believe that there's something more there. There isnt and its honestly one of the most impressive cons I've ever seen

[AtorBoltox]

Great pick on Trump’s part, he’s a fantastic selection.

He'll complete the conservative oligarchy take over of America.

Excellent news. You plebeians have had rights for too long.

Conservatism has always been about diminishing the rights of the poor and marginal and expanding the rights of the wealthy and powerful.  The only thing new with Kavanaugh is that the U.S will no longer be a real democracy where anything can effectively be done to fight against that.

Yes, one court appointment will turn America into an evil fascist dictatorship.
Ted Nugent and the WBC almost  sound sane in comparison to you.

It's the exact same as the boiling frog metaphor.  You've been brought along so that you haven't seen it happening. If you think these are normal times, you're insane.

You are the one that is insane.  Please go see a psychiatrist.  

"Hitler is a dangerous demagogue"
Reply "You're insane.  Please go see a psychiatrist."


https://theconversation.com/normalizing-fascists-69613

Unfortunately, that article describes how Hitler was normalized in the United States, and not in Germany, but it still shows the idea that Hitler was a dangerous demagogue was idiotically minimized.

LOL, comparing Trump to Hitler.  You're an idiot.  It's past your bedtime.

Nice engagement with the text and great refutation of the central point

[Calthrina950]

Great pick on Trump’s part, he’s a fantastic selection.

He'll complete the conservative oligarchy take over of America.

Excellent news. You plebeians have had rights for too long.

Conservatism has always been about diminishing the rights of the poor and marginal and expanding the rights of the wealthy and powerful.  The only thing new with Kavanaugh is that the U.S will no longer be a real democracy where anything can effectively be done to fight against that.

Yes, one court appointment will turn America into an evil fascist dictatorship.
Ted Nugent and the WBC almost  sound sane in comparison to you.

It's the exact same as the boiling frog metaphor.  You've been brought along so that you haven't seen it happening. If you think these are normal times, you're insane.

You are the one that is insane.  Please go see a psychiatrist.  

Even though I'm not a Trump supporter, there has been no change in my life since Trump won the election in 2016. Much of what has been said about Trump has been overblown.

Immature privileged white male basing his views on how privileged white males are treated.

Calthrina is a WOC...

A man of color, actually. My username comes from a fictional story that I wrote when I was in middle school.

[Calthrina950]

Great pick on Trump’s part, he’s a fantastic selection.

He'll complete the conservative oligarchy take over of America.

Excellent news. You plebeians have had rights for too long.

Conservatism has always been about diminishing the rights of the poor and marginal and expanding the rights of the wealthy and powerful.  The only thing new with Kavanaugh is that the U.S will no longer be a real democracy where anything can effectively be done to fight against that.

Yes, one court appointment will turn America into an evil fascist dictatorship.
Ted Nugent and the WBC almost  sound sane in comparison to you.

It's the exact same as the boiling frog metaphor.  You've been brought along so that you haven't seen it happening. If you think these are normal times, you're insane.

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Even though I'm not a Trump supporter, there has been no change in my life since Trump won the election in 2016. Much of what has been said about Trump has been overblown.

I agree with you there.  TBH, I voted for him, but I voted Democratic down ballot.  I don't actually like Trump, it's just that I thought he was the lesser of two evils. 

Same with me. I went for Evan McMullin for President, but split my ballot between Democrats and Republicans (and one Libertarian) for other offices. And I too, thought Trump was less of an evil than Hillary Clinton, even though I couldn't abide by a lot of the comments that he made, nor his birtherism against former President Obama. That's why I didn't vote for him in the end.

[BenBurch]

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Nice engagement with the text and great refutation of the central point
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It's an utterly stupid comparison, and I pointed that out.

[BenBurch]

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Not surprising that "Trump's Hitler!" is all you have.

[Calthrina950]

BREAKING...Bush Jr. on the Trump train:

pic of clown Bush Jr.

It is ironic how Trump has now nominated two Bush appointees to the Supreme Court, given his professed hatred of the Bush family. And that Bush is praising Trump for this nomination.

Trump is basically Bush Jr. 2.0. Trump just distracts his dimwitted base more red meat than Bush while he picks their pockets

Well, my dislike for Trump isn't as deep as yours is, nor is my opinion of his base that low (given that my father is a Trump voter). But I have said before that most of what Trump has done up to this point (bar his moves on certain aspects of foreign policy and on trade), including such things as deregulation, tax cuts, climate change, healthcare, the federal budget, immigration, and judicial appointments, have been policies that any generic Republican President would have pursued (albeit with less drama than Trump). He really is no different from Bush on most policy issues.

Trump is just a standard 90s Republican. He doesnt believe in any of this shi.t except for political gain and expediency. He probably rawdogs porn stars after giving a speech over at the ''family values'' summit or accepts graft after giving a speech decrying special interests. It's all just for show but his supporters desperately want to believe that there's something more there. There isnt and its honestly one of the most impressive cons I've ever seen

I certainly do agree that Trump is a moral hypocrite. He was a "New York Democrat" for many years, has been accused of sexual harassment and/or assault numerous times, and has been unscrupulous with his business practices. To say nothing of his birtherism or the allegations of racial discrimination against him. But I still don't think that his Presidency has been any more damaging to us then those of the Bushes, or Carter, or what have you. If anything, it has served as an escalation (or continuation) of the various trends that are impacting our politics.

[136or142]

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Not surprising that "Trump's Hitler!" is all you have.

That actually wasn't the point of the comparison, it's just that for informed people, Hitler is the most famous example of a person who was normalized based on such things as 'Hitler can't really believe the things he says' and 'Hitler will have to be responsible once he takes power' or, even (the classic line of normalcy bias) "things won't be much different."

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the (non)illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

[BenBurch]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

[Calthrina950]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

[136or142]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

And what have these 'checks and balances' done in response to Trump?  Pretty much rolled right over.

[AtorBoltox]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

Weimar Germany had 'checks and balances' as well

[junior chįmp]

BREAKING...Bush Jr. on the Trump train:

pic of clown Bush Jr.

It is ironic how Trump has now nominated two Bush appointees to the Supreme Court, given his professed hatred of the Bush family. And that Bush is praising Trump for this nomination.

Trump is basically Bush Jr. 2.0. Trump just distracts his dimwitted base more red meat than Bush while he picks their pockets

Well, my dislike for Trump isn't as deep as yours is, nor is my opinion of his base that low (given that my father is a Trump voter). But I have said before that most of what Trump has done up to this point (bar his moves on certain aspects of foreign policy and on trade), including such things as deregulation, tax cuts, climate change, healthcare, the federal budget, immigration, and judicial appointments, have been policies that any generic Republican President would have pursued (albeit with less drama than Trump). He really is no different from Bush on most policy issues.

Trump is just a standard 90s Republican. He doesnt believe in any of this shi.t except for political gain and expediency. He probably rawdogs porn stars after giving a speech over at the ''family values'' summit or accepts graft after giving a speech decrying special interests. It's all just for show but his supporters desperately want to believe that there's something more there. There isnt and its honestly one of the most impressive cons I've ever seen

I certainly do agree that Trump is a moral hypocrite. He was a "New York Democrat" for many years,  has been accused of sexual harassment and/or assault numerous times, and has been unscrupulous with his business practices. To say nothing of his birtherism or the allegations of racial discrimination against him. But I still don't think that his Presidency has been any more damaging to us then those of the Bushes, or Carter, or what have you. If anything, it has served as an escalation (or continuation) of the various trends that are impacting our politics.

I wouldnt say that Trump's presidency has been damaging on a wide scale. He's just a clown trying to make out with as much gifting as possible before his window of opportunity closes to grift more. Republicans are okay with it since they get to keep the SCOTUS even if it totally destroys their party in the long run. They pretend to like Trump knowing flattery will get them whatever they want from him despite loathing him in private.

Even the most Bible reading devout Evangelical Republican would be okay with Trump having paid for abortions just to get that SCOTUS....hell most would funnel church funds to pay for the cover-up of his abortion if they could (embezzlement of Church funds is common in the Evangelical circles anyway)

Trump is just the natural symptom of a weak Democratic party that has turned its back on what should be their natural constituents (unions, workers, etc...) in favor of intellectual technocratic mental masturbators who write 3,000 page healthcare bills that dont even insure everyone while simultaneously demanding the votes of certain categories of people they feel owe them their votes without any results.

[136or142]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

Weimar Germany had 'checks and balances' as well

They had been much less built up.  It only took Hitler 18 months to turn Germany into a full dictatorship, though it took him over 3 years to fully take over all government institutions (The Railway Agency for instance, or the German Central Bank.)  It took a year after that before Hitler had conditioned Germany to the point where he could feel confident to carry out Kristallnacht.

So, indeed, these things don't happen overnight.  

For the Republican Party, it has taken longer because they needed independently trained ideological judges (Federalist Society) to infiltrate the courts to make partisan Republican rulings and a propaganda television network to justify the rulings.  It took them many things beyond that as well.

[Calthrina950]

BREAKING...Bush Jr. on the Trump train:

pic of clown Bush Jr.

It is ironic how Trump has now nominated two Bush appointees to the Supreme Court, given his professed hatred of the Bush family. And that Bush is praising Trump for this nomination.

Trump is basically Bush Jr. 2.0. Trump just distracts his dimwitted base more red meat than Bush while he picks their pockets

Well, my dislike for Trump isn't as deep as yours is, nor is my opinion of his base that low (given that my father is a Trump voter). But I have said before that most of what Trump has done up to this point (bar his moves on certain aspects of foreign policy and on trade), including such things as deregulation, tax cuts, climate change, healthcare, the federal budget, immigration, and judicial appointments, have been policies that any generic Republican President would have pursued (albeit with less drama than Trump). He really is no different from Bush on most policy issues.

Trump is just a standard 90s Republican. He doesnt believe in any of this shi.t except for political gain and expediency. He probably rawdogs porn stars after giving a speech over at the ''family values'' summit or accepts graft after giving a speech decrying special interests. It's all just for show but his supporters desperately want to believe that there's something more there. There isnt and its honestly one of the most impressive cons I've ever seen

I certainly do agree that Trump is a moral hypocrite. He was a "New York Democrat" for many years,  has been accused of sexual harassment and/or assault numerous times, and has been unscrupulous with his business practices. To say nothing of his birtherism or the allegations of racial discrimination against him. But I still don't think that his Presidency has been any more damaging to us then those of the Bushes, or Carter, or what have you. If anything, it has served as an escalation (or continuation) of the various trends that are impacting our politics.

I wouldnt say that Trump's presidency has been damaging on a wide scale. He's just a clown trying to make out with as much gifting as possible before his window of opportunity closes to grift more. Republicans are okay with it since they get to keep the SCOTUS even if it totally destroys their party in the long run. They pretend to like Trump knowing flattery will get them whatever they want from him despite loathing him in private.

Even the most Bible reading devout Evangelical Republican would be okay with Trump having paid for abortions just to get that SCOTUS....hell most would funnel church funds to pay for the cover-up of his abortion if they could (embezzlement of Church funds is common in the Evangelical circles anyway)

Trump is just the natural symptom of a weak Democratic party that has turned its back on what should be their natural constituents (unions, workers, etc...) in favor of intellectual technocratic mental masturbators who write 3,000 page healthcare bills that dont even insure everyone while simultaneously demanding the votes of certain categories of people they feel owe them their votes without any results.

That is close to my view. I don't like Trump, and I didn't vote for him, but his Administration will not be the end of democracy as we know it. If anything, it only extends the partisanship, the corruption, and the establishment politics that we've already seen. I do think that the Democrats need to return to their roots, and I would hope that a renewed focus on the needs and interests of the working man will result. Maybe this Administration will be a wake-up call for them.

[Calthrina950]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

Weimar Germany had 'checks and balances' as well

The United States has a much longer tradition of democracy than Weimar Germany did, our political system, even with the partisanship and the institutional flaws, is comparatively stronger, and we are not in the same economic/foreign policy predicament that Germany was in during that time.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Trump is just the natural symptom of a weak Democratic party that has turned its back on what should be their natural constituents (unions, workers, etc...) in favor of intellectual technocratic mental masturbators who write 3,000 page healthcare bills that dont even insure everyone while simultaneously demanding the votes of certain categories of people they feel owe them their votes without any results.

Beautifully put.

[136or142]

BREAKING...Bush Jr. on the Trump train:

pic of clown Bush Jr.

It is ironic how Trump has now nominated two Bush appointees to the Supreme Court, given his professed hatred of the Bush family. And that Bush is praising Trump for this nomination.

Trump is basically Bush Jr. 2.0. Trump just distracts his dimwitted base more red meat than Bush while he picks their pockets

Well, my dislike for Trump isn't as deep as yours is, nor is my opinion of his base that low (given that my father is a Trump voter). But I have said before that most of what Trump has done up to this point (bar his moves on certain aspects of foreign policy and on trade), including such things as deregulation, tax cuts, climate change, healthcare, the federal budget, immigration, and judicial appointments, have been policies that any generic Republican President would have pursued (albeit with less drama than Trump). He really is no different from Bush on most policy issues.

Trump is just a standard 90s Republican. He doesnt believe in any of this shi.t except for political gain and expediency. He probably rawdogs porn stars after giving a speech over at the ''family values'' summit or accepts graft after giving a speech decrying special interests. It's all just for show but his supporters desperately want to believe that there's something more there. There isnt and its honestly one of the most impressive cons I've ever seen

I certainly do agree that Trump is a moral hypocrite. He was a "New York Democrat" for many years,  has been accused of sexual harassment and/or assault numerous times, and has been unscrupulous with his business practices. To say nothing of his birtherism or the allegations of racial discrimination against him. But I still don't think that his Presidency has been any more damaging to us then those of the Bushes, or Carter, or what have you. If anything, it has served as an escalation (or continuation) of the various trends that are impacting our politics.

Trump is just the natural symptom of a weak Democratic party that has turned its back on what should be their natural constituents (unions, workers, etc...) in favor of intellectual technocratic mental masturbators who write 3,000 page healthcare bills that dont even insure everyone while simultaneously demanding the votes of certain categories of people they feel owe them their votes without any results.

Certainly Democrats aren't perfect, but these attitudes are part of the problem. Republicans appoint hyper partisan judges, pass 'right to work' laws that destroy unions, gerrymander, limit voting rights, declare money as speech...

When Democrats take power, they have to work within these limitations, and then Democratic voters get frustrated and blame the Democratic politicians rather than appreciate the constraints these Democrats have to work within.

[AtorBoltox]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

Weimar Germany had 'checks and balances' as well

The United States has a much longer tradition of democracy than Weimar Germany did, our political system, even with the partisanship and the institutional flaws, is comparatively stronger, and we are not in the same economic/foreign policy predicament that Germany was in during that time.

Exactly. Eroding American democracy will take a lot longer than the months it took in Germany, but stop pretending that the institutions of the US are immune from failure. As Trump has shown they are clearly a lot weaker than everyone thought

[136or142]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

Weimar Germany had 'checks and balances' as well

The United States has a much longer tradition of democracy than Weimar Germany did, our political system, even with the partisanship and the institutional flaws, is comparatively stronger, and we are not in the same economic/foreign policy predicament that Germany was in during that time.

Exactly. Eroding American democracy will take a lot longer than the months it took in Germany, but stop pretending that the institutions of the US are immune from failure. As Trump has shown they are clearly a lot weaker than everyone thought

As I wrote, this is because Republicans have already been doing this for at least 30 years (with the exception of George H W Bush.)  When people here write "Trump is no different than George W. Bush" as if that makes Trump 'normal' my reply is "Exactly, he's a continuation of the George W. Bush Administration, that's precisely the problem."

[Calthrina950]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

Weimar Germany had 'checks and balances' as well

The United States has a much longer tradition of democracy than Weimar Germany did, our political system, even with the partisanship and the institutional flaws, is comparatively stronger, and we are not in the same economic/foreign policy predicament that Germany was in during that time.

Exactly. Eroding American democracy will take a lot longer than the months it took in Germany, but stop pretending that the institutions of the US are immune from failure. As Trump has shown they are clearly a lot weaker than everyone thought

I'm not pretending that they are immune to failure. Nothing lasts forever, and the United States does have many flaws which I think can and should be corrected. But I still don't think that Trump by himself can destroy our democratic system.

[136or142]

I have no idea what Trump will do once he is fully a De Facto dictator beyond the illegal things he's already done like his graft and separating children of asylum seekers from their parents. I doubt he knows either.

You can't see how stupid that is?

I didn't support Trump's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy, but Trump is nowhere near becoming a dictator. Our constitutional system has checks and balances that were built in by our Founding Fathers, and Trump will be subject to the electoral process again in 2020. Again, comparing him to a fascist or a Nazis is overblown in my view.

Weimar Germany had 'checks and balances' as well

The United States has a much longer tradition of democracy than Weimar Germany did, our political system, even with the partisanship and the institutional flaws, is comparatively stronger, and we are not in the same economic/foreign policy predicament that Germany was in during that time.

Exactly. Eroding American democracy will take a lot longer than the months it took in Germany, but stop pretending that the institutions of the US are immune from failure. As Trump has shown they are clearly a lot weaker than everyone thought

I'm not pretending that they are immune to failure. Nothing lasts forever, and the United States does have many flaws which I think can and should be corrected. But I still don't think that Trump by himself can destroy our democratic system.

Of course not, after all, It Can't Happen Here.  (A line so nice, I've used it twice.)

[JGibson]

It is a massive travesty to American morals to appoint far-right extremist judges such as Brett Kavanaugh to fill the shoes of Anthony Kennedy. If Kavanaugh is confirmed, there will be real-life policy consequences, such as overturning Roe, NFIB v. Sebelius, and possibly Obergefell. He will rule to protect Trump's abuse of power to protect himself from a criminal investigation in the Mueller probe should it reach the highest court. I urge you to contact your Senators to stop the confirmation. #StopKavanaugh!

[AtorBoltox]

It is a massive travesty to American morals to appoint far-right extremist judges such as Brett Kavanaugh to fill the shoes of Anthony Kennedy. If Kavanaugh is confirmed, there will be real-life policy consequences, such as overturning Roe, NFIB v. Sebelius, and possibly Obergefell. He will rule to protect Trump's abuse of power to protect himself from a criminal investigation in the Mueller probe should it reach the highest court. I urge you to contact your Senators to stop the confirmation. #StopKavanaugh!

Agreed about Kavanaugh, but let's not pretend Kennedy wasn't a far right extremist himself

[gerritcole]

It is a massive travesty to American morals to appoint far-right extremist judges such as Brett Kavanaugh to fill the shoes of Anthony Kennedy. If Kavanaugh is confirmed, there will be real-life policy consequences, such as overturning Roe, NFIB v. Sebelius, and possibly Obergefell. He will rule to protect Trump's abuse of power to protect himself from a criminal investigation in the Mueller probe should it reach the highest court. I urge you to contact your Senators to stop the confirmation. #StopKavanaugh!

you get that off #resist.com?