Lori Swanson set to run for MN Governor, with Rick Nolan as running mate.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Lori Swanson is a massive HP for jumping in the race at the last minute and scrambling the race, even though a Democrat will probably win it regardless. But Mark Begich is an amazing FF for jumping in the race last minute and scrambling the race, even though him doing so raises the chance of a Republican win drastically.

I was going to comment, and then realized IceSpear summed up my own thoughts rather succinctly.

No one has said Mark Begich is a FF for jumping in at the last minute, but thanks for playing

Plenty of people here were happy about it.

link?

I'm glad Begich jumped in. Not only is Walker a terrible Governor but he's a former Republican who doesn't deserve to automatically get Alaska's fairly sizable Democratic base. I'm glad Begich is giving Alaskans a real choice this November instead of two fairly conservative candidates. Not to mention Begich is a significantly better candidate in his own right.

One flaming hot take does not plenty of people make.

[wesmoorenerd]

Lori Swanson is a massive HP for jumping in the race at the last minute and scrambling the race, even though a Democrat will probably win it regardless. But Mark Begich is an amazing FF for jumping in the race last minute and scrambling the race, even though him doing so raises the chance of a Republican win drastically.

I was going to comment, and then realized IceSpear summed up my own thoughts rather succinctly.

No one has said Mark Begich is a FF for jumping in at the last minute, but thanks for playing

Plenty of people here were happy about it.

link?

I'm glad Begich jumped in. Not only is Walker a terrible Governor but he's a former Republican who doesn't deserve to automatically get Alaska's fairly sizable Democratic base. I'm glad Begich is giving Alaskans a real choice this November instead of two fairly conservative candidates. Not to mention Begich is a significantly better candidate in his own right.

One flaming hot take does not plenty of people make.

I don't see how it's a hot take. Begich is outpolling Walker in public polling. That's pathetic for an incumbent governor, and Walker isn't getting any stronger. Maybe actually address my argument instead of lazily calling it a hot take?

[MAINEiac4434]

Not that it's at all relevant to the Minnesota thread, but it's been clear for some time that Walker is in a whole lot of trouble. Begich jumping in is probably the best way to ensure that a Republican does not become Governor of Alaska -- assuming, of course, Walker drops out to allow Begich to take on whatever Palin clone the AKGOP puts up.

[IceSpear]

Not that it's at all relevant to the Minnesota thread, but it's been clear for some time that Walker is in a whole lot of trouble. Begich jumping in is probably the best way to ensure that a Republican does not become Governor of Alaska -- assuming, of course, Walker drops out to allow Begich to take on whatever Palin clone the AKGOP puts up.

Sounds like fanfiction to me. Walker led by 7 in the only non internal head to head poll of the race. Could he still have lost to the Republican? Yeah, especially since Alaska polls suck. Are the chances of a Republican win far higher now than they were before? Unambiguously.

[wesmoorenerd]

Not that it's at all relevant to the Minnesota thread, but it's been clear for some time that Walker is in a whole lot of trouble. Begich jumping in is probably the best way to ensure that a Republican does not become Governor of Alaska -- assuming, of course, Walker drops out to allow Begich to take on whatever Palin clone the AKGOP puts up.

Sounds like fanfiction to me. Walker led by 7 in the only non internal head to head poll of the race. Could he still have lost to the Republican? Yeah, especially since Alaska polls suck. Are the chances of a Republican win far higher now than they were before? Unambiguously.

Fun fact: Begich led by 11 in the same poll. In a head to head, would Walker beat Dunleavy? Probably. But Begich is unambiguously the stronger candidate between the him and Walker, and probably the more competent potential governor as well. Democrats rolled over for Walker in 2014, and look where it got them. They got Mallott at Lt. Gov, sure, but the man in charge is not exactly good at his job and he's certainly unpopular. Begich is offering Alaskans a real choice in this election, and Walker should take the hint that he's not going to win regardless already.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Lori Swanson is a massive HP for jumping in the race at the last minute and scrambling the race, even though a Democrat will probably win it regardless. But Mark Begich is an amazing FF for jumping in the race last minute and scrambling the race, even though him doing so raises the chance of a Republican win drastically.

I was going to comment, and then realized IceSpear summed up my own thoughts rather succinctly.

No one has said Mark Begich is a FF for jumping in at the last minute, but thanks for playing

Plenty of people here were happy about it.

link?

I'm glad Begich jumped in. Not only is Walker a terrible Governor but he's a former Republican who doesn't deserve to automatically get Alaska's fairly sizable Democratic base. I'm glad Begich is giving Alaskans a real choice this November instead of two fairly conservative candidates. Not to mention Begich is a significantly better candidate in his own right.

One flaming hot take does not plenty of people make.

I don't see how it's a hot take. Begich is outpolling Walker in public polling. That's pathetic for an incumbent governor, and Walker isn't getting any stronger. Maybe actually address my argument instead of lazily calling it a hot take?

Because I get the sense nothing I say will change your mind and I have other things to do besides argue for the sake of arguing (no offense).

[wesmoorenerd]

Lori Swanson is a massive HP for jumping in the race at the last minute and scrambling the race, even though a Democrat will probably win it regardless. But Mark Begich is an amazing FF for jumping in the race last minute and scrambling the race, even though him doing so raises the chance of a Republican win drastically.

I was going to comment, and then realized IceSpear summed up my own thoughts rather succinctly.

No one has said Mark Begich is a FF for jumping in at the last minute, but thanks for playing

Plenty of people here were happy about it.

link?

I'm glad Begich jumped in. Not only is Walker a terrible Governor but he's a former Republican who doesn't deserve to automatically get Alaska's fairly sizable Democratic base. I'm glad Begich is giving Alaskans a real choice this November instead of two fairly conservative candidates. Not to mention Begich is a significantly better candidate in his own right.

One flaming hot take does not plenty of people make.

I don't see how it's a hot take. Begich is outpolling Walker in public polling. That's pathetic for an incumbent governor, and Walker isn't getting any stronger. Maybe actually address my argument instead of lazily calling it a hot take?

Because I get the sense nothing I say will change your mind and I have other things to do besides argue for the sake of arguing (no offense).

I mean, you haven't even laid out a position here. My mind is open.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Lori Swanson is a massive HP for jumping in the race at the last minute and scrambling the race, even though a Democrat will probably win it regardless. But Mark Begich is an amazing FF for jumping in the race last minute and scrambling the race, even though him doing so raises the chance of a Republican win drastically.

I was going to comment, and then realized IceSpear summed up my own thoughts rather succinctly.

No one has said Mark Begich is a FF for jumping in at the last minute, but thanks for playing

Plenty of people here were happy about it.

link?

I'm glad Begich jumped in. Not only is Walker a terrible Governor but he's a former Republican who doesn't deserve to automatically get Alaska's fairly sizable Democratic base. I'm glad Begich is giving Alaskans a real choice this November instead of two fairly conservative candidates. Not to mention Begich is a significantly better candidate in his own right.

One flaming hot take does not plenty of people make.

I don't see how it's a hot take. Begich is outpolling Walker in public polling. That's pathetic for an incumbent governor, and Walker isn't getting any stronger. Maybe actually address my argument instead of lazily calling it a hot take?

Because I get the sense nothing I say will change your mind and I have other things to do besides argue for the sake of arguing (no offense).

I mean, you haven't even laid out a position here. My mind is open.

Okay, I'll get back to you over the weekend when I have time to give a more detailed response.  Sound good?

[Skunk]

I thought this thread was about Minnesota.

[MAINEiac4434]

Lori Swanson is a union-buster.

Also Tim Walz and Erin Murphy are both former union leaders.

[Virginiá]

Lori Swanson is a union-buster.

Also Tim Walz and Erin Murphy are both former union leaders.

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SHAME!
SHAME!
SHAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[Fuzzy Bear]

Lori Swanson is a massive HP for jumping in the race at the last minute and scrambling the race, even though a Democrat will probably win it regardless. But Mark Begich is an amazing FF for jumping in the race last minute and scrambling the race, even though him doing so raises the chance of a Republican win drastically.

I was going to comment, and then realized IceSpear summed up my own thoughts rather succinctly.

Begich might win.  Half a Democrat is better than no Democrat at all, but a whole Democrat is better than half a Democrat.

[IndustrialJustice]

It's bad enough that many Democrats fraternize with anti-union companies and law firms, but the candidate herself being a literal union-buster?

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I used to like Swanson, now I really dislike her.

[Zaybay]

I wanted this woman to replace Franken. Now, I want her political career to end. My, how things change.


Seriously though, Swanson is becoming my least favorite Dem really quickly.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Go Walz!

[Skunk]

Unfortunate, rooting for Walz now.

[President Johnson]

Go Walz and Flanagan!

[Politician]

Let's hope Walz wins.

[Zaybay]

I think Walz will win this. He has a natural base, and has popular support. While hes more socially moderate, hes also economically left, giving him a connection to the rurals and cities. Murphy has the city vote, and some suburban support. Swanson is left with very little, no cities due to Murphy, noz woman vote due to Murphy, and no rural due to Walz. Actually now that I think about it, without Murphy, Swanson would likely win this, so thanks Murphy!

Also, while browsing, I found this quiz on who you match with for governor:

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/08/08/select-a-candidate-minnesota-governor-primary

[MAINEiac4434]

I think Walz will win this. He has a natural base, and has popular support. While hes more socially moderate, hes also economically left, giving him a connection to the rurals and cities. Murphy has the city vote, and some suburban support. Swanson is left with very little, no cities due to Murphy, noz woman vote due to Murphy, and no rural due to Walz. Actually now that I think about it, without Murphy, Swanson would likely win this, so thanks Murphy!

Also, while browsing, I found this quiz on who you match with for governor:

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/08/08/select-a-candidate-minnesota-governor-primary

I got Walz.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I got Murphy. Voting Walz though.

[Zaybay]

Took the quiz, got Tim Walz, very happy with myself. I thought I would get Murphy.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

I got Murphy and I'm very proud of myself. We need more good female leftists.

[Zaybay]

Im very proud of the campaign Walz is running. An economic Leftist with progressive social values. Not as progressive as Murphy, but still very progressive. He reminds me of Sherrod Brown.

And then I see Swanson, and I am instantly unhappy. Union Buster, Conservative on guns and other social issues, #MeToo, just, ugh. If she wins, I will not endorse her, and I endorse almost all Dems. (I know no one cares about who I endorse, but its symbolic, okay.)