Chelsea Manning running against Cardin (MD-Sen)
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« Reply #225 on: January 17, 2018, 12:43:01 AM »

Thank God Maryland democratic primaries are largely made up of African Americans and Government and Military Industry Complex workers. They are not going to stand for this bs! They will demolish Manning!

Never thought I'd see a red avatar quote the phrase "Thank God for the military-industrial complex".
Maybe try and understand this issue at more than a surface level. Yes, the military contractors are an unfortunate reality in the states around DC. However, the fact remains that they provide a lot of jobs for us and rarely lay off people. War is often profitable.

I think that is literally the most surface-level take you could have on the military industrial complex.
Well to be fair, I don't think just screaming "WAR IS EVIL" is going to do much good. I don't even disagree with the substance, but you have to view all of the effects of a policy before putting it into place.
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« Reply #226 on: January 17, 2018, 12:50:34 AM »

I honestly would vote for Cardin if I were in MD. That should say something.
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« Reply #227 on: January 17, 2018, 01:18:24 AM »

Thank God Maryland democratic primaries are largely made up of African Americans and Government and Military Industry Complex workers. They are not going to stand for this bs! They will demolish Manning!

Never thought I'd see a red avatar quote the phrase "Thank God for the military-industrial complex".

The Democratic Party has never opposed the military-industrial complex, even when Democrats pretended to be anti-war during the Bush years.
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« Reply #228 on: January 17, 2018, 08:45:17 AM »

Thank God Maryland democratic primaries are largely made up of African Americans and Government and Military Industry Complex workers. They are not going to stand for this bs! They will demolish Manning!

Never thought I'd see a red avatar quote the phrase "Thank God for the military-industrial complex".
But you didn't. The quote said military-industrial complex workers. Whether I agree with their line of work or not, they will vote against this individual. I am not opposed to Cardin being primaried, but not by this person.
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« Reply #229 on: January 17, 2018, 02:02:42 PM »

I live in Maryland, and I'm gonna vote for Cardin.
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« Reply #230 on: January 17, 2018, 02:05:18 PM »

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« Reply #231 on: January 17, 2018, 04:04:54 PM »

She will outperform what most on here think. Time for young blood in the senate!
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« Reply #232 on: January 17, 2018, 04:05:26 PM »

-Conservatives
-Nat Sec hawks
-People who get butthurt when Dems are primaried
-Transphobes
-BUT RUSSSSSSSIAAA hysteria victims

All of my least favorite groups of people, all united for one goal.

I'm confused. You support Russia meddling in your country's elections with coordination from the president and a major political party?
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« Reply #233 on: January 17, 2018, 04:07:15 PM »

Kristen Beck a trans and former Navy Seal ran against Steny Hoyer in 2016 and got 12% of the vote.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/232750-transgender-navy-seal-running-against-steny-hoyer

https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=806322
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« Reply #234 on: January 17, 2018, 04:12:32 PM »

-Conservatives
-Nat Sec hawks
-People who get butthurt when Dems are primaried
-Transphobes
-BUT RUSSSSSSSIAAA hysteria victims

All of my least favorite groups of people, all united for one goal.

I'm confused. You support Russia meddling in your country's elections with coordination from the president and a major political party?

There's a difference between being slightly concerned and using Infowars style conspiracies to shout down every voice that challenges the multinational oligarchy, like you're doing.
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« Reply #235 on: January 17, 2018, 04:14:17 PM »

I don't wanna think about a United States without Ben Cardin in the state!
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« Reply #236 on: January 17, 2018, 04:18:14 PM »

-Conservatives
-Nat Sec hawks
-People who get butthurt when Dems are primaried
-Transphobes
-BUT RUSSSSSSSIAAA hysteria victims

All of my least favorite groups of people, all united for one goal.

I'm confused. You support Russia meddling in your country's elections with coordination from the president and a major political party?

There's a difference between being slightly concerned and using Infowars style conspiracies to shout down every voice that challenges the multinational oligarchy, like you're doing.

Wait, what's the "Infowars style conspiracy" and who is the "voice that challenges the multinational oligarchy?"
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« Reply #237 on: January 18, 2018, 11:02:38 PM »

Chelsea has been posting some of her policy positions on Twitter today and she's running very, very far left: she supports a universal basic income and dismantling ICE and Customs/border police. On January 10 on Twitter, she referred to ICE as "the new gestapo."

This isn't a realistic policy position and plays into the conservative strawman of the Left. Like it or not, ICE and CBP need to exist in some form because otherwise human trafficking and smuggling of endangered species and cultural treasures would run amok.
seriously, many of her proposals are non-starters; at least in this political environment

Which is an excellent argument for changing the political environment... by changing who we elect.
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« Reply #238 on: January 18, 2018, 11:25:26 PM »


Did you just endorse the murder of an individual?
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« Reply #239 on: January 19, 2018, 01:24:14 AM »

I'm endorsing Cardin HARD. A Manning win would tie her around the necks of every Democrat in the nation, just like Moore would have for the GOP. Also, while her awareness of civil forfeiture as an issue is impressive, her position on destroying ICE is untenable, and she's be a reliable no vote on any compromise bill or any major piece of legislation that isn't pure enough for her. And on top of ALL THAT, she supports BDS, which in and of itself would be a dealbreaker for me.

I understand the appeal she has, and I wish her the best in life, but I really, really hope she doesn't end up anywhere near the Senate.
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« Reply #240 on: January 19, 2018, 06:23:53 AM »

I'm endorsing Cardin HARD. A Manning win would tie her around the necks of every Democrat in the nation, just like Moore would have for the GOP. Also, while her awareness of civil forfeiture as an issue is impressive, her position on destroying ICE is untenable, and she's be a reliable no vote on any compromise bill or any major piece of legislation that isn't pure enough for her. And on top of ALL THAT, she supports BDS, which in and of itself would be a dealbreaker for me.

I understand the appeal she has, and I wish her the best in life, but I really, really hope she doesn't end up anywhere near the Senate.

What's the appeal she has?

She would be far worse than Roy Moore would be for the GOP. Roy Moore is pretty mainstream for Republicans at this point. Manning is running against a tenured and respected incumbent. I don't find the situations comparable. Moore had a base. Manning doesn't.
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« Reply #241 on: January 19, 2018, 07:02:23 AM »

If Manning was serious about serving then she should run for her local city or county council, or state legislature. By launching a primary challenge against a scandal-free and well liked incumbent she shows that she doesn't give a rat's ass and just wants the headlines.
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« Reply #242 on: January 19, 2018, 01:08:13 PM »

For the record, Dan Canon in IN-09 also supports abolishing ICE, and any Democrat that cares about immigrants literally at all should.
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« Reply #243 on: January 19, 2018, 01:11:52 PM »

We've got a traitor in the White House, why not put one in the Senate?

Smh, Cardin has my 100% support.
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« Reply #244 on: January 19, 2018, 07:25:06 PM »

We've got a traitor in the White House, why not put one in the Senate?

Smh, Cardin has my 100% support.

Well yes, but you hate anything slightly left of center.

Also, revealing the US military killing civilians is not treason. If it is, then I worry for the future of the world.
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« Reply #245 on: January 19, 2018, 07:31:18 PM »

If Manning wins the primary against Carding by only 1 vote, what would the primary map look like?
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« Reply #246 on: January 19, 2018, 09:32:52 PM »

Manning should be executed for treason I will gladly vote for Cardin

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« Reply #247 on: January 19, 2018, 10:05:52 PM »

Manning should be executed for treason I will gladly vote for Cardin

Endorses Cardin

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My ideology is a mixture of far left, nationalism and theocracy

They are a traitor......
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« Reply #248 on: January 19, 2018, 10:15:51 PM »

Manning should be executed for treason I will gladly vote for Cardin

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My ideology is a mixture of far left, nationalism and theocracy

They are a traitor......

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« Reply #249 on: January 19, 2018, 10:18:16 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2018, 10:21:08 PM by swf541 »

Manning should be executed for treason I will gladly vote for Cardin

Endorses Cardin

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My ideology is a mixture of far left, nationalism and theocracy

They are a traitor......

Trolololo

If you read my post history im not a troll.  Though my ideology is very weird I do admit and coming from a military family I take treason and espionage very seriously
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