AZ-SEN 2018: Sinema Paradiso

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why does Arizona always get great senators:

Goldwater, McCain, Kyl, Flake and now Sinema or McSally

[Blair]

Why does Arizona always get great senators:

Goldwater, McCain, Kyl, Flake and now Sinema or McSally

If Donald Trump had lost in 2016, McSally would be running as someone who 'rejected the bigotry of Donald Trump' or whatever post-truth bollocks the GOP would have turned to in order to pretend that 2016 didn't happen. She's the absolute worse type of politician- one who simply bends, and runs to the latest ideological tilt of their party.

It's really not fair to put Goldwater, or McCain. (Or heck even Flake) in the same category as McSally.

I'd agree about Kyl though- they're both cretins who are born for the Senate GOP.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Goldwater and Jeff Flake were terrible senators

[UncleSam]

When McSally wins by five in the most predictable case of Atlas jumping the gun on a red state turning purple ever, feel free to quote this post.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

When McSally wins by five in the most predictable case of Atlas jumping the gun on a red state turning purple ever, feel free to quote this post.

This post is even dumber than Barry Goldwater. That is a pretty hard feat

[OSR stands with Israel]

Putting aside the Prada Socialist's transparent pandering for a second...is she just going to let McSally savage her over the next two months and never throw a single punch back? She's attacked a Senator from New York more than she's attacked her own opponent.

From what I understand she is going for a positive campaign, she never has run a negative campaign in her previous elections to congress.

Uh oh.

AZ-SEN Lean Dem ---> Tossup

Yeah, if she just lets the GOP bash her with no response she's going to fumble this thing.

Then again, if she gets elected, she'll quite possibly be the worst/most annoying democratic senator from a progressive perspective. What kind of democrat votes with Trump 61% of the time when he lost their district by double digits?

Yeah exactly. The choice in this race is not between a Republican and a Democrat, but between one Republican and 0.6 Republicans.

Great News!

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

When McSally wins by five in the most predictable case of Atlas jumping the gun on a red state turning purple ever, feel free to quote this post.

McSally winning McCain's seat by 5% still sounds pitiful. Only 1964, 1980, & 2012 would have been closer Senate races

[TheSaint250]

Putting aside the Prada Socialist's transparent pandering for a second...is she just going to let McSally savage her over the next two months and never throw a single punch back? She's attacked a Senator from New York more than she's attacked her own opponent.

From what I understand she is going for a positive campaign, she never has run a negative campaign in her previous elections to congress.

Uh oh.

AZ-SEN Lean Dem ---> Tossup

Yeah, if she just lets the GOP bash her with no response she's going to fumble this thing.

Then again, if she gets elected, she'll quite possibly be the worst/most annoying democratic senator from a progressive perspective. What kind of democrat votes with Trump 61% of the time when he lost their district by double digits?

Yeah exactly. The choice in this race is not between a Republican and a Democrat, but between one Republican and 0.6 Republicans.

Great News!

[Xing]

Welp, this race is over, guyz. I thought it was a far more likely pick-up than Tilt R swing state Nevada, but now that Sinema is behind by 1 in a Gravis poll and I heard somewhere that she's not unloading on McSally, it's clearly a less likely pick-up than Nebraska.

Likely D -> Titanium R

[Florida Man for Crime]

Welp, this race is over, guyz. I think it was a far more likely pick-up than Tilt R swing state Nevada, but now that Sinema is behind by 1 in a Gravis poll and I heard somewhere that she's not unloading on McSally, it's clearly a less likely pick-up than Nebraska.

Likely D -> Titanium R

Yep. What a difference a single Gravis poll can make.

[IceSpear]

Why exactly is sinema running to the right of Joe Manchin?

Because she thought she was leading in the polls due to her "moderation", not a divided GOP and a great political environment for anything with a (D) next to their name. A common mistake.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Why exactly is sinema running to the right of Joe Manchin?

Because she thought she was leading in the polls due to her "moderation", not a divided GOP and a great political environment for anything with a (D) next to their name. A common mistake.

We should have run Grijalva or Gallego

[Strong Candidate]

Why exactly is sinema running to the right of Joe Manchin?

Because she thought she was leading in the polls due to her "moderation", not a divided GOP and a great political environment for anything with a (D) next to their name. A common mistake.

We should have run Grijalva or Gallego

Gallego would be good, but hell no on Grijalva. Remember the 2010 race?

[Politician]

Sinema remains one of the worst Democrats running in a competitive Senate race.

This, and if we could swap Sinema and Rosen for Trauner and Raybould our odds of taking the Senate would go up AND we'd have better senators.

[Zaybay]

Sinema remains one of the worst Democrats running in a competitive Senate race.

[Beet]

Sinema and Rosen are the only non-incumbent Democrats running in states that are anything close to competitive, so it's really impossible to compare. Arizona remains a highly Republican state, and it doesn't have the sort of ancestral Democrats that other states have. Republicans have won every Senate election in Arizona since 1988. That being said, it is open to some progressive economic messages. The state is definitely flipable this year.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Sinema will probably move left after taking office, at least for four years. She had a reputation as one of the most liberal members of the Arizona Senate. Her move to the center in the House was clearly calculated.

[Hindsight was 2020]

It’s really peak Atlas to declare Sinema doa over bashing Schumer and a “lol Gravis” poll having her down 1 when people like Josh Kraushaar and other GOP insiders have said nothing about the GOP feeling better about this race

[Antonio the Sixth]

Sinema will probably move left after taking office, at least for four years. She had a reputation as one of the most liberal members of the Arizona Senate. Her move to the center in the House was clearly calculated.

Why would she move to the left while representing a Lean R state when she was a DINO while representing a Lean D district?

[Yellowhammer]

SINEMA can win, with the Clinton hispanics, over M mcsally

cinema gets the important bisex block voters. Sally cannot underestimate her// Krystin tutu picture backfires, also attracts ballerina vote
MCCAIN death coattails help Duce because he appointed Kyle but will not translate to Sally
welcome hon. Senator KYRSTEN CINEMA ?
addition- Kyrsten = Krystal, so meth bad breaking GOVERNOR Highsenberg voters jump the border from ALBUQUERQE N. Mexico to vote!

[IceSpear]

Sinema remains one of the worst Democrats running in a competitive Senate race.

This, and if we could swap Sinema and Rosen for Trauner and Raybould our odds of taking the Senate would go up AND we'd have better senators.

Rosen is fine and will easily be the next Senator from Nevada.

[mcmikk]

Sinema is worse than Manchin imo. But like Manchin, I tolerate her because we need to win this race.

I hope she moves to the left somewhat, at least after AZ shows signs of moving further leftwards. I don't know how long I can stomach her DINO moderate hero nonsense.

[Very Legal & Very Cool]

Sinema hate stops today, alright?

[Technocracy Timmy]

Yeah exactly. The choice in this race is not between a Republican and a Democrat, but between one Republican and 0.6 Republicans.

Would you Berniecrats rather have 35 Elizabeth Warrens in the senate and let the GOP steamroll?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah exactly. The choice in this race is not between a Republican and a Democrat, but between one Republican and 0.6 Republicans.

Would you Berniecrats rather have 35 Elizabeth Warrens in the senate and let the GOP steamroll?

> 2018
> still thinking that being a gutless moderate hero makes you inherently more ~electable~