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« Reply #1150 on: March 13, 2018, 01:00:22 PM »
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« Reply #1151 on: March 13, 2018, 01:02:55 PM »
The snow showers are worrying especially since it seems to be heavy in Allegheny.
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« Reply #1152 on: March 13, 2018, 01:03:03 PM »
Why does it seem like the media is treating this race as "local" whereas they treated ga-6 like a referendum on trump?

Almost all the articles put out recently on this race heavily mention Lamb's "conservative" views on key issues, saccone's bad campaign and corruption ties, but there seems to be less of a desire to connect a lamb victory to a referendum on trump
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« Reply #1153 on: March 13, 2018, 01:09:09 PM »
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Good or bad for Lamb?
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« Reply #1154 on: March 13, 2018, 01:10:31 PM »
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Good or bad for Lamb?

Terrific. Westmoreland will be his weakest. Allegheny will be his strongest. If Allegheny turnout is already at 30%, long before work gets out, and Westmoreland is expecting only 40% by the end of the day, then Lamb is in a good position.
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« Reply #1155 on: March 13, 2018, 01:14:41 PM »
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Quote from: Statilius the Epicurean on March 13, 2018, 11:02:16 AM
Yeah Democrats here are sounding far too confident considering this is a tossup race in a heavily Republican district.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this. That's as far as I go. But I will celebrate it as much as the AL Senate victory if it happens because it would be an astounding victory.
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« Reply #1156 on: March 13, 2018, 01:17:27 PM »
Republicans are really pessimistic about tonight

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« Reply #1157 on: March 13, 2018, 01:22:05 PM »
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Why does it seem like the media is treating this race as "local" whereas they treated ga-6 like a referendum on trump?

Almost all the articles put out recently on this race heavily mention Lamb's "conservative" views on key issues, saccone's bad campaign and corruption ties, but there seems to be less of a desire to connect a lamb victory to a referendum on trump

Hmm. I hadn’t gotten that sense. Could be all the Hollywood types stumping in GA-6, which we haven’t seen in PA-18.
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« Reply #1158 on: March 13, 2018, 01:25:17 PM »
I am cautiously optimistic.
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« Reply #1159 on: March 13, 2018, 01:25:27 PM »
I don't think Ossoff was a good candidate not much of a resume and didn't even live in the district, which I think mattered a lot.
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« Reply #1160 on: March 13, 2018, 01:33:02 PM »
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Why does it seem like the media is treating this race as "local" whereas they treated ga-6 like a referendum on trump?

Almost all the articles put out recently on this race heavily mention Lamb's "conservative" views on key issues, saccone's bad campaign and corruption ties, but there seems to be less of a desire to connect a lamb victory to a referendum on trump

Hmm. I hadn’t gotten that sense. Could be all the Hollywood types stumping in GA-6, which we haven’t seen in PA-18.

Maybe I am just reading things wrong, but Lamb just seems less of a national dem than ossof was.
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« Reply #1161 on: March 13, 2018, 01:42:31 PM »
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Why does it seem like the media is treating this race as "local" whereas they treated ga-6 like a referendum on trump?

Almost all the articles put out recently on this race heavily mention Lamb's "conservative" views on key issues, saccone's bad campaign and corruption ties, but there seems to be less of a desire to connect a lamb victory to a referendum on trump

Hmm. I hadn’t gotten that sense. Could be all the Hollywood types stumping in GA-6, which we haven’t seen in PA-18.

Maybe I am just reading things wrong, but Lamb just seems less of a national dem than ossof was.

Could be. While being a much superior candidate/better fit for the district he’s running in, he doesn’t scratch the itch of the national media in the same way (worth recalling that CNN and a number of other large media firms are based in Atlanta, which is increasingly a favored filming site too)
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« Reply #1162 on: March 13, 2018, 01:44:04 PM »
Part of me is worried that the D wave narrative will become the consensus if Lamb wins. It's true, but I'd prefer Republicans and the pundits to be surprised when the wave hits. Though otoh Lamb may spur some more GOP retirements so that'd be good.
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« Reply #1163 on: March 13, 2018, 01:45:29 PM »
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It's stupid but the overconfidence is making me less and less confident.

Yea especially Steel seems cocky. He may be right but there are a lot of unknowns as this point and this is still a fairly hard district for Dems to win.

Yes. I'm still burned from turnout reports that were saying that there was no way HRC would lose this.

I've been cocky as hell about this race since the big November landslides and a Democrat being elected in Alabama of all places lol. I have been spoiled election wise lately.
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« Reply #1164 on: March 13, 2018, 01:45:47 PM »
Hahahahaha!!!
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« Reply #1165 on: March 13, 2018, 01:55:15 PM »
Quote from: Senator Pericles of Fremont on March 13, 2018, 01:44:04 PM
Part of me is worried that the D wave narrative will become the consensus if Lamb wins. It's true, but I'd prefer Republicans and the pundits to be surprised when the wave hits. Though otoh Lamb may spur some more GOP retirements so that'd be good.
The D wave narrative should have become the consensus after Alabama. It didn’t. And I guarantee you many right leaning pundits will quickly write off Saccone’s loss should he lose.
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« Reply #1166 on: March 13, 2018, 01:56:15 PM »
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Quote from: Senator Pericles of Fremont on March 13, 2018, 01:44:04 PM
Part of me is worried that the D wave narrative will become the consensus if Lamb wins. It's true, but I'd prefer Republicans and the pundits to be surprised when the wave hits. Though otoh Lamb may spur some more GOP retirements so that'd be good.
The D wave narrative should have become the consensus after Alabama. It didn’t. And I guarantee you many right leaning pundits will quickly write off Saccone’s loss should he lose.

I guess the situation will remain largely unchanged. Good.
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« Reply #1167 on: March 13, 2018, 01:57:55 PM »
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Quote from: Arch on March 13, 2018, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: Statilius the Epicurean on March 13, 2018, 11:02:16 AM
Yeah Democrats here are sounding far too confident considering this is a tossup race in a heavily Republican district.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this. That's as far as I go. But I will celebrate it as much as the AL Senate victory if it happens because it would be an astounding victory.
same.

The thing is this shouldn't have ever been a tossup. That's the reason for confidence, and it's not unwarrented.
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« Reply #1168 on: March 13, 2018, 02:04:26 PM »
Quote from: Technocracy Timmy on March 13, 2018, 01:56:43 PM
It’s over folks. Democrats don’t turn out when it snows.

Saccone + 10
Agree reps do turn out
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« Reply #1169 on: March 13, 2018, 02:06:25 PM »
Quote from: Technocracy Timmy on March 13, 2018, 01:56:43 PM
It’s over folks. Democrats don’t turn out when it snows.

Saccone + 10

Rick Snowcone has done it again
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« Reply #1170 on: March 13, 2018, 02:18:37 PM »
Quote from: Technocracy Timmy on March 13, 2018, 01:56:43 PM
It’s over folks. Democrats don’t turn out when it snows.

Saccone + 10

And here I thought Democrats *were* the snowflakes Wink
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« Reply #1171 on: March 13, 2018, 02:21:09 PM »
Any updates on the ground?
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« Reply #1172 on: March 13, 2018, 02:23:53 PM »
Republicans may be playing the expectations game to an extent, but even so, why do they feel like they need to, unless they are legitimately worried about Lamb winning, and want to make it seem like it won’t be that big of a deal?
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« Reply #1173 on: March 13, 2018, 02:24:16 PM »

People be voting
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« Reply #1174 on: March 13, 2018, 02:28:52 PM »

Heavy turnout.
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