Who won the debate?

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TBH I think Sanders underperformed, but that's only because I was expecting him to literally (figuratively) kill everyone else on stage and rise to >80% in the polls by the end of the week.

[Figueira]

O'Malley. Atlas is dead wrong...

It usually is about these things. Appealing to political nerds is very different from appealing to the primary electorate.

Your problem there is that O'Malley appeals exclusively to political nerds.

Yeah, I don't actually agree with VPH about O'Malley, but I agree with the general point that Atlas is usually wrong about these things.

[Eraserhead]

TBH I think Sanders underperformed, but that's only because I was expecting him to literally (figuratively) kill everyone else on stage and rise to >80% in the polls by the end of the week.

Okay then...

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

TBH I think Sanders underperformed, but that's only because I was expecting him to literally (figuratively) kill everyone else on stage and rise to >80% in the polls by the end of the week.

You're new to this aren't you? Emotional investment is a BAD idea.

[Jerseyrules]

Sanders hands down.  Hillary did a decent job to be sure, and probably scared Biden away from running, but not enough to really cover her bases (hooray we kicked out Gaddafi...but I'm gonna glaze over the whole ensuing chaos thing...) or more importantly, THE base.

The three long-shots all had their moments, but nothing noteworthy enough to make them non-long shots

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

O'Malley. Atlas is dead wrong...

For what it's worth, everyone in my Facebook feed who was following the debate was mocking O'Malley. My Dad, who is a carpenter from Iowa and is very much a "normal" Democratic voter, thought that O'Malley sounded less than sincere. This is not intended to be conclusive evidence or whatever but O'Malley clearly didn't win.

He oozes "pandering hack".

[OSR stands with Israel]

The raw charisma of Lincoln Chafee has swept the Atlantic. Even now late at night, I cannot slumber, images of the dynamo Lincoln Chafee the Granite Man from Rhode Island overwhelming my quaint British mind. Not as a joke zero percent figure, but as a statesman who rose metric kilometres above his opponents. God bless Lincoln Chafee, and I do believe that is an appropriate name, given his presidential namesake. My friends, we have truly seen a political rebirthing. Of the Democratic Party, of the granite man and of America herself.

Once, the Republicans were the Party of Lincoln, but tonight I think we can truly say that in the 21st century the Democrats are the new Party of Lincoln.

Both parties should stop saying " Party of Lincoln" . The Modern Liberal and Conservative was born in 1896. I think the Republicans are the party of William McKinley and the Democrats are the party of Woodrow Wilson

[OSR stands with Israel]

Clinton

[Cryptic]

My take.

1. Clinton - Did what she needed to do and should stop bleeding in the polls.
2. Sanders - Wasn't bad, but wasn't great either.
3. O'Mailey - Did better than everyone thought he would. Probably gets a small bump.
4. Webb - He's out of place.
5. Chaffee - "It was my first day!"

I think both Clinton and Sanders had their moments, but if Hillary stops dropping that's probably enough for it to be considered a win for her.

[Likely Voter]

Media narrative will shape this in coming days and it is starting off like this...

[Crumpets]

Media narrative will shape this in coming days and it is starting off like this...

Politico's current headline: "Clinton crushes it"

[Likely Voter]

More from the MSM...

NBCNews: Clinton Delivers Skillful Debate With Assist From Sanders

ABCNews: Clinton Regains Control Of Democratic Race

CBSNews: In Democratic debate, Clinton sticks to her script and emerges unscathed


and for the LOLS,

FOXNews: Defiant Clinton defends flip-flops, downplays email scandal at debate

[Crumpets]

Also, Breitbart's headline is currently:

HANDS OFF HILLARY!:
DEMOCRAT 'CHALLENGERS'
ABSOLVE CLINTON FOR
EMAIL SCANDAL...
***BREITBART DEBATE
WIRE***

[Likely Voter]

And from the print media:

NYT: Clinton Turns Up Heat on Sanders in a Sharp Debate
and
Clinton Seizes Opportunity to Try to Restore Trust

WaPo: Self-assured performance for front-runner Clinton
and
On a national stage, Sanders is largely under assault

WSJ: Clinton Shows Relentless Efficiency at Debate

USAToday: Clinton Punches Back At First Democratic Debate

[Tender Branson]

Didn't see it yet, but I'm reading the morning news right now.

Austrian media say Hillary Clinton won.

"Hillary cemented her frontrunner-status":

http://kurier.at/politik/ausland/clinton-untermauert-favoritenstatus-bei-erster-tv-debatte/158.413.098

"Hillary pulls away from her competitors":

http://derstandard.at/2000023819288/Clinton-zieht-Konkurrenten-davon

"Hillary dominates debate ...":

http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/4843107/Genug-von-Ihren-verdammten-EMails

[Eraserhead]

Yet the focus groups all say Sanders won:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/10/13/majority_of_cnn_focus_group_think_sanders_won_first_debate.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/10/13/frank_luntz_focus_group_agrees_bernie_sanders_won_debate.html

http://fusion.net/story/214234/bernie-sanders-wins-democratic-debate-focus-group/

Might be one of those situations where the elites and actual people are in two very different places.

[umphursmcgur]

Might be one of those situations where the elites and actual people are in two very different places.

Which is kind of Sander's appeal.

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

Might be one of those situations where the elites and actual people are in two very different places.

Kind of like Trump and Bush.

[defe07]

You forgot to put Biden!

[Crumpets]

Sanders hands down.  Hillary did a decent job to be sure, and probably scared Biden away from running, but not enough to really cover her bases (hooray we kicked out Gaddafi...but I'm gonna glaze over the whole ensuing chaos thing...) or more importantly, THE base.

The three long-shots all had their moments, but nothing noteworthy enough to make them non-long shots

If you criticize her for that, what exactly is your signature referencing?

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Didn't see it yet, but I'm reading the morning news right now.

Austrian media say Hillary Clinton won.

"Hillary cemented her frontrunner-status":

http://kurier.at/politik/ausland/clinton-untermauert-favoritenstatus-bei-erster-tv-debatte/158.413.098

"Hillary pulls away from her competitors":

http://derstandard.at/2000023819288/Clinton-zieht-Konkurrenten-davon

"Hillary dominates debate ...":

http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/4843107/Genug-von-Ihren-verdammten-EMails

Oh no, sanders will definitely lose the lucrative Austrian delegates in the convention now.

[heatmaster]

Houston! ....We have a problem,  I mean you Democrats....Hillary won, but not because she won...she was handled with kid gloves and I not kidding! ...I mean if she's not able or allowed to handle the hard questions,  because the DNC deems it so and her opponents were "instructed" not to get too rough....or else! ...I doubt Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has done Hillary any favors or her edicts are gonna have the same affect or impact on Hillary's opponent in the general election...the likely response is "eat me" or "talk to the hand" or the extended middle finger. Suppose Wasserman-Schultz will throw a hissy and threaten to hold her breath. Chafee has nothing to lose nor have the other candidates and the threats issued by the DNC will have zero effect. Hillary "winning" against a weak opposition is truly glaring and especially pathetic.  Chafee I can see will create the most problems for Hillary. Shame!😊😀

[heatmaster]

Houston! ....We have a problem,  I mean you Democrats....Hillary won, but not because she won...she was handled with kid gloves and I not kidding! ...I mean if she's not able or allowed to handle the hard questions,  because the DNC deems it so and her opponents were "instructed" not to get too rough....or else! ...I doubt Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has done Hillary any favors or her edicts are gonna have the same affect or impact on Hillary's opponent in the general election...the likely response is "eat me" or "talk to the hand" or the extended middle finger. Suppose Wasserman-Schultz will throw a hissy and threaten to hold her breath. Chafee has nothing to lose nor have the other candidates and the threats issued by the DNC will have zero effect. Hillary "winning" against a weak opposition is truly glaring and especially pathetic.  Chafee I can see will create the most problems for Hillary. Shame!😊😀

[Landslide Lyndon]

Might be one of those situations where the elites and actual people are in two very different places.

Kind of like Trump and Bush.

I don't remember any elite saying that Bush won the Republican debates.

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

Might be one of those situations where the elites and actual people are in two very different places.

Kind of like Trump and Bush.

I don't remember any elite saying that Bush won the Republican debates.

In the context of the debate, no. I was referring to how the Party elite and the Party voters are split on who they support (Bush has elite backing, whereas many voters support Trump, Clinton has elite backing whereas many voters support Sanders). Not a perfect comparison, but very similar.