are Trotskyists morally superior to Stalinists?

[© tweed]

are Trotskyists morally superior to Stalinists?

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Yes, though that isn't particularly hard.

[TNF]

They're both awful.

[RogueBeaver]

They're both awful.

[Goldwater]

They're both awful.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

They're both awful.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

They're both awful.

This as well.

[DC Al Fine]

Yes if only because Stalinists are the worst group the 20th century has ever known.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Yes if only because Stalinists are the worst group the 20th century has ever known.

Nazis?

[courts]

Yes if only because Stalinists are the worst group the 20th century has ever known.

you'd prefer permanent revolution? anyway as far as i can tell stalinists didn't really contribute much to the further subversion of 'conservatism' into something even more destructive than that which it supposedly opposes.

[Dr. Cynic]

I'd rather have a Trotskyist than a Stalinist.

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

I don't think either one is morally superior to someone with a "mainstream" political philosophy, but Trotskyists are probably a bit better than Stalinists.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The remaining Tankie groups (as absurd as they are) tend to attract nicer people than Trot sects. For whatever that's worth; I mean, it isn't much of an achievement.

[politicus]

Apart from Nazis and child molesters everyone is morally superior to Stalinists, so yes.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

There is actually an issue with rape, sexual assault and other predatory nastiness with Trot sects

[TNF]

Yes if only because Stalinists are the worst group the 20th century has ever known.

The Nazis were far, far worse than the Stalinists.

[DC Al Fine]

Yes if only because Stalinists are the worst group the 20th century has ever known.

The Nazis were far, far worse than the Stalinists.

Not by body count. Plus I personally would be far more likely to wind up in a Stalinist death camp than a Nazi one, so I am a bit biased.

[minionofmidas]

Nonsense. You are neither a Communist nor a member of an ethnic minority. You had nothing whatsoever to fear from either man.

"In attempting to find a historical parallel for Stalin, we must reject not only Cromwell, Robespierr, Napoleon and Lenin, but also Mussolini and Hitler. We come closer to understanding Stalin by studying Mustafa Kemal Pasha and perhaps also Porfirio Diaz." (Trotsky. Feel the burn, Joe!)

Fun fact: Trotsky's great-granddaughter heads a US government agency (NIDA).

The remaining Tankie groups (as absurd as they are) tend to attract nicer people than Trot sects. For whatever that's worth; I mean, it isn't much of an achievement.

Meh. Both groups attract, nowadays, much the same kind of people that any religious cult does.

[DC Al Fine]

Nonsense. You are neither a Communist nor a member of an ethnic minority. You had nothing whatsoever to fear from either man.

My grandparents are prosperous and own a large farm, my parents are capitalists, multiple members of my family are in the clergy, and I am a card carrying member of a bourgeois political party. I'm assuming some combination of those would get me in a gulag

[Filuwaúrdjan]

No, you're out of the country and quite perfectly safe.

[WalterMitty]

i think paul wolfowitz is right about most things.

[minionofmidas]

Nonsense. You are neither a Communist nor a member of an ethnic minority. You had nothing whatsoever to fear from either man.

My grandparents are prosperous and own a large farm, my parents are capitalists, multiple members of my family are in the clergy, and I am a card carrying member of a bourgeois political party. I'm assuming some combination of those would get me in a gulag

Hmmm... not a gulag, but the farm thing could end you in starvation. Though really only if you're also a member of an ethnic minority.
Capitalists... depending on exact income (and happenstance, and timing) we're talking either what Al said or no problem. Just stay on as "executive manager" of what you used to "own". It is conceivable that exile is preceded by a short jail term for your father.
Clergy... depending on their behavior, it is possible - though a lot less than likely - that some of these relatives will find themselves in jail or a gulag. Not you, though.
Card carrying member... you wouldn't be.

None of this puts you in the actually most at risk groups under Stalin. Alas.

[Vosem]

Today? Yes, pretty much everywhere. Historically? Most of the time in most places.

[LastVoter]

Nonsense. You are neither a Communist nor a member of an ethnic minority. You had nothing whatsoever to fear from either man.

My grandparents are prosperous and own a large farm, my parents are capitalists, multiple members of my family are in the clergy, and I am a card carrying member of a bourgeois political party. I'm assuming some combination of those would get me in a gulag

Hmmm... not a gulag, but the farm thing could end you in starvation. Though really only if you're also a member of an ethnic minority.
Capitalists... depending on exact income (and happenstance, and timing) we're talking either what Al said or no problem. Just stay on as "executive manager" of what you used to "own". It is conceivable that exile is preceded by a short jail term for your father.
Clergy... depending on their behavior, it is possible - though a lot less than likely - that some of these relatives will find themselves in jail or a gulag. Not you, though.
Card carrying member... you wouldn't be.

None of this puts you in the actually most at risk groups under Stalin. Alas.

Krasnodar region was affected by Holodomor as well. Canadian equivalent would probably be Manitoba or SK(grain growing regions).

I guess I am not entirely correct, before the famine the population in Kuban was approximately equally split between Russian & Ukranian speakers.

[The Mikado]

Trots are the most tedious and obnoxious people on Earth.  Stalinists are just geriatric coots, but tend to be insular and hostile to outsiders rather than evangelizing like Trots, who are the preachiest and most evangelizing political sect this side of the Larouchites.