Italy 2013: The official thread

[RogueBeaver]

Napolitano reelected in a landslide. Now the hard part begins.

[Franzl]

Does this mean new elections soon?

[RogueBeaver]

No. Another interim government, electoral law or even constitutional (French system) overhaul, then elections in the fall or next spring. Plus PD primaries, since Bersani's resignation will take effect very soon.

[Keystone Phil]

So is Amato as Prime Minister a done deal?

[Keystone Phil]

Standing ovation in the chamber...except for M5S members.

[RogueBeaver]

741 votes, or 74%.

[RogueBeaver]

Government consultations begin on Tuesday.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Someone please euthanize the PD.

[RogueBeaver]

Someone please euthanize the PD.

They'd just regroup under another name. Anyhoo, Bersani has now resigned and won't participate in the consulations- I assume the PD parliamentary leaders will take charge until primaries can be triggered?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Someone please euthanize the PD.

They'd just regroup under another name. Anyhoo, Bersani has now resigned and won't participate in the consulations- I assume the PD parliamentary leaders will take charge until primaries can be triggered?

I don't give a damn, this party is rotten at its core and contaminated by pure evil. Until something else replaces it, nothing good will ever come to Italy.

[minionofmidas]

I'm pretty sure that the real problem is that the Second Republic has only a little more credibility than the First now.

I don't think the Second Republic has looked like it ever might become more legitimate than the First was in its final phase again, at any point since Berlusconi's second victory.

[minionofmidas]

I highly doubt he'll be there till he's 94.

He'll probably remain in office long after anyone else mentioned in this thread bar Berlusconi has sunk to irrelevancy...

[Antonio the Sixth]

I highly doubt he'll be there till he's 94.

He'll probably remain in office long after anyone else mentioned in this thread bar Berlusconi has sunk to irrelevancy...

Such thing is never going to happen.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I'm pretty sure that the real problem is that the Second Republic has only a little more credibility than the First now.

I don't think the Second Republic has looked like it ever might become more legitimate than the First was in its final phase again, at any point since Berlusconi's second victory.

Litotes, again.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I don't give a damn, this party is rotten at its core and contaminated by pure evil. Until something else replaces it, nothing good will ever come to Italy.

?!

[minionofmidas]

I don't give a damn, this party is rotten at its core and contaminated by pure evil. Until something else replaces it, nothing good will ever come to Italy.

?!

More Litotes.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I'm pretty sure that the real problem is that the Second Republic has only a little more credibility than the First now.

I don't think the Second Republic has looked like it ever might become more legitimate than the First was in its final phase again, at any point since Berlusconi's second victory.

Litotes, again.

Though I guess it could be argued that at least half of all deputies and senators (or whatever the exact figure was - I actually posted it a few years ago) aren't under investigation at the moment. But that's about it.

[minionofmidas]

I'm pretty sure that the real problem is that the Second Republic has only a little more credibility than the First now.

I don't think the Second Republic has looked like it ever might become more legitimate than the First was in its final phase again, at any point since Berlusconi's second victory.

Litotes, again.

Though I guess it could be argued that at least half of all deputies and senators (or whatever the exact figure was - I actually posted it a few years ago) aren't under investigation at the moment. But that's about it.

Just goes to show the magistracy is now just as rotten.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

[Antonio the Sixth]

I don't give a damn, this party is rotten at its core and contaminated by pure evil. Until something else replaces it, nothing good will ever come to Italy.

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You disagree?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The actual figure (which I've just checked!), by the way, was more like 16%: which is still... er... impressive. Gold medal to the PSDI which had nine out of nineteen under investigation by the summer of 1993!

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I don't give a damn, this party is rotten at its core and contaminated by pure evil. Until something else replaces it, nothing good will ever come to Italy.

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You disagree?

No, Yes, Eh... Italy's problems run rather deeper.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I wasn't aware reelecting (or 'extending the term of') a President was even constitutional in Italy.

[RogueBeaver]

No term limits for a president, just never been done before. They floated a second term for Ciampi ("Ciampi-bis") in '06 but he rejected the idea.

[Keystone Phil]

I wasn't aware reelecting (or 'extending the term of') a President was even constitutional in Italy.

I thought it was just a one term deal as well but I think I saw that that's more of a gentle men's agreement. The center-right tried to get Ciampi to run again in 2006 (trying to prevent Napolitano because of his communist roots. Go figure) but he declined.