Italy 2013: The official thread

[Keystone Phil]

Hilarious.

[RogueBeaver]

So do they try again or go with someone else? Even if every single IBC voted for him he'd still be a couple of dozen short. Any senators for life under 80 for whom enough votes could be found?

[Keystone Phil]

Looks like Alfano is trying to humiliate PD by saying Marini had the amount of votes yesterday that would be required to win today. An attempt to get them to back down and follow the original agreement? Either way, I imagine PD is thoroughly embarrassed by all of this.

[RogueBeaver]

PD and PdL have to firmly agree on a candidate, that's been confirmed beyond any shadow of a doubt. Bring Monti in too if possible. Crazy idea, but how about a joint caucus meeting between PD and PdL? That way the dissenters can have a say.

[Keystone Phil]

What about Cancellieri? I think I read earlier how PdL was flirting with going her way. She has Monti's backing (she is his Interior Minister).

[RogueBeaver]

Would PD back her? Anyhoo, Vendola said SEL voted for Prodi and the split's within PD. Burn.

[RogueBeaver]

Renzi: Prodi no longer a viable candidate. As Nardelli points out here, the leadership and presidential votes have merged.

http://albertonardelli.tumblr.com/post/48366026636/prodi-doesnt-pass

http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/english/2013/04/19/-Prodi-candidacy-says-Renzi_8582584.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[RogueBeaver]

Now PD is denying rumours that Bersani would resign, but he definitely should. Hell, dunno why he'd even want to appear in public.

[RogueBeaver]

Rosy Bindi has resigned.

[RogueBeaver]

Prodi has withdrawn his candidacy.

[Keystone Phil]

Ah, Bindi. One of Silvio's great enemies. A spectacular disaster this has become for PD. But yes, they should totally be tasked with running the country. Yep.

Prodi has withdrawn his candidacy.

All the way from Mali!

[RogueBeaver]

More like Bersani couldn't run a lemonade stand, much less one of the 2 major parties.

[Peeperkorn]

Italian Left = Joke Parties.

They wouldn't approve anything revolutionary if they win anyway.

I call all my Italian brothers in la Peninsula and all'Estero to think in the future of Italy and support the only political leader that can rescue Italy from the tedeschi's dominion, Silvio Berlusconi.

[RogueBeaver]

Yeah, but Bersani has to resign or call a primary first. I don't think there are mechanisms which trigger that process involuntarily. Resident Italians can of course correct me if I'm wrong.

[RogueBeaver]

Berlusconi is meeting Monti.

[Peeperkorn]

Yeah, but Bersani has to resign or call a primary first. I don't think there are mechanisms which trigger that process involuntarily. Resident Italians can of course correct me if I'm wrong.

Bersani is weak, he will shameless resign.

[RogueBeaver]

Given everything that's happened in the past 2 months and that he hasn't already...  I can see him doing it but only if he can set up one of his loyalists against Renzi in a primary.

[Niemeyerite]

Leo Bassi can be considered more serious than PD now.

[RogueBeaver]

PD officially confirms Bindi's resignation.

[Keystone Phil]

Anyone taking bets on how big PdL's lead will be in the next set of general election polling after this fiasco? They're at..what?...a four point lead now?

[RogueBeaver]

5-7 with Bersani as PD leader, depending on what happens tomorrow.

[Peeperkorn]

5-7 with Bersani as PD leader, depending on what happens tomorrow.

+5 for Bersani in polls = +2 for Berlusconi in reality.

Italy is full of undiscovered rightist towns in the mountains full of old people and donkeys  that never are polled.

[RogueBeaver]

I meant Berlusconi leads by 5-7. Anyways, Bersani has called a party meeting. Probably about tomorrow's ballot.

[Keystone Phil]

5-7 with Bersani as PD leader, depending on what happens tomorrow.

+5 for Bersani in polls = +2 for Berlusconi in reality.

Italy is full of undiscovered rightist towns in the mountains full of old people and donkeys  that never are polled.

No, he means +5-7 for Silvio if Bersani remains as the PD leader. Right now, it's +4 Silvio. PD hasn't led in awhile.

[Peeperkorn]

5-7 with Bersani as PD leader, depending on what happens tomorrow.

+5 for Bersani in polls = +2 for Berlusconi in reality.

Italy is full of undiscovered rightist towns in the mountains full of old people and donkeys  that never are polled.

No, he means +5-7 for Silvio if Bersani remains as the PD leader. Right now, it's +4 Silvio. PD hasn't led in awhile.

It's like the other time all over again.