Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v3 (pg 45 - mass-dropout aftermath)

[ProudModerate2]

Biden's yelling jag the other day was an embarrassment. It'd have been one thing if he'd said, "You're a damned liar," followed by a convincing explanation of why his son was on the board of a company he had no qualifications for. But getting mad without backing it up just proves it's a criticism that hurts... likely because it's true. The same with the pushup nonsense about his age. Biden is a walking disaster.

How many times does it need to be explained to you people that his son was qualified to be on the board?

How many times are Biden and his supporters expected to explain and re-explain and re-explain it before we're allowed to just say "shut up you Fox News zombie"

He qualified by being Hunter Biden, just as he qualified as a senior executive at Delaware based MBNA making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, as his first job out of law school. People know how the system works, and it stinks. Biden didn't show genuine emotion because he was being unfairly attacked. He showed genuine emotion because he knows the criticism is true and therefore it worries him that it'll be an effective liability against him. Biden's nepotism represents everything wrong with the system today and why people have long lost faith in the system.

Dude, he graduated from Yale Law.  That's as prestigious as it gets.

Hillary Rodham graduated from Yale Law and her first job was impeaching Nixon.  I suppose she got that job because she was a member of the famous Rodham family?

Smart people get good jobs. This appears to be the scandal-of-the-week pattern this election cycle.  Joe Biden's son got good jobs.  Pete Buttigieg got good jobs.  Mike Bloomberg and Tom Steyer had such good jobs that they became billionaires.  If Deval Patrick was relevant people would be attacking him for his good jobs.

Is this the party we want?  Only knuckle-dragging morons and grocery-store clerks allowed?

Way to mock the working class, and yet you wonder why more progressives don’t support your guy.
This stinks just like when Republicans attack AOC for being a former bartender.

A Biden supporter (GeneralMacArthur) makes a comment in Atlas, and you are going to attribute that comment as if Biden said it, and even blame Biden for it by saying "that's why progressives don't support him."
What kind of logic is that?

[ProudModerate2]

Biden really is clueless with his latest ad if he thinks a few global elites laughing at Trump is going to convince any good amount of Obama/Trump voters.

Have you recently been hiding under a rock?
It's not just "a few global elites" laughing at trump.
Over half of the American population is laughing at him.

[ProudModerate2]

God help us if this moron gets the nomination

Joe Biden is worried the Republican Party might get 'clobbered.'

"It’s not like there’s going to be some great epiphany and people are going to wake up and go, 'oh my God, I'm now a Democrat.' And if you hear people on the rope line saying, ‘I'm a Republican,’ I say, ‘Stay a Republican.’ Vote for me but stay a Republican, because we need a Republican Party."

He later added that he's concerned about what would happen if the Republican Party was totally "clobbered."

"I'm really worried that no party should have too much power," he said. "You need a countervailing force."

I'm tempted to say Biden at this point is worse than Trump--while the Republican government is essentially evil at this point, Biden sees this evil, acknowledges it (by running against it) and still thinks it's an acceptable thing we should keep around.

He is. I never thought I’d say this, but if it’s between Bernie and Biden, I will refuse to vote for Biden in the general election. Giving any more credence to the Republicans as a legimitate party that is capable of governing would be worse than letting Trump get a second term to further destroy the GOP brand.

Between Bernie and Biden? Did you mean Trump?

I’m operating under the assumption that the primaries unfold between Bernie and Biden. I prefer a re-elected Trump w/Democratic House to a useless four-year Biden Presidency, and it’s not even a close call. If the Supreme Court was at stake, my opinion would be different, but we’re already f—ked on that front anyway.

This is insanity!
trump is destroying our nation everyday. He is also destroying our relations with our allies, and our place as a leader in international affairs.
For anyone (on the left) to call for him to stay for another 4 years, because of "supposed" benefits elsewhere, is lunacy.
In regards to your comment on the Supreme Court ... My belief is that RBG wants out. She is being a huge hero for the left, and doing everything possible to "hang-in-there" until early 2021, in the hopes a Dem president wins. Having trump McTurtle insert yet another supreme court justice would be devastating, and would be 10 times more "f---ked" then you can imagine.

[ProudModerate2]

Am I the only one who has noticed that both trump and our very own Atlas trump-cultist, Hollywood, is showing fear that Biden could be the Dem nominee?
They know Biden has the best chance to show trump the exit.

[ProudModerate2]

Am I the only one who has noticed that both trump and our very own Atlas trump-cultist, Hollywood, is showing fear that Biden could be the Dem nominee?
They know Biden has the best chance to show trump the exit.

Remember when you said the exact same thing in 2016 after I told you Bernie Sanders had a better shot winning the states Hillary lost in the Midwest?  Even Biden could have beat Trump that year.  This version of Biden is one of the shakiest front runners the Democrats have ever put up.  He's basically McCain in a constant fugue state.

No, I don't remember you saying that to me (but it's nice for you to just make it up).
Nor am I in a definitive belief that Sanders would have won the 2016 general election (vs Hillary's results).

[ProudModerate2]

Say what you want about his policies, but the Biden campaign has hired some damn good people for these ads.

He has made some good ads. And maybe he does have some decent organization and staff. It's what I'm hoping for if he gets nominated.

His staff really needs to keep him on a teleprompter during public events and get as many surrogates (the Obamas especially) out there campaigning for and with him as much as possible in the right states at both the presidential and down-ballot levels.

This is an abnormally optimistic post for a pessimist. 

Biden’s “decent” organization has had implored him to use a teleprompter since his campaign kicked off in May, and he’s repeatedly made gaffes or gone off script. 

Is it optimistic? I'm acknowledging that if left to his own devices Biden could doom himself in a general election campaign.

Fair enough.  In my mind, I feel like Democrats should be absolutely horrified over a Biden nomination given the high stakes often expressed.  Groping young women cause he's a touchy weirdo is one thing, but I'd be losing my mind if a candidate had expressed loving when kids sat on his lap and rubbed his leg.  If people want to know what would have caused many Trump's supporters not to vote for him, now you have your answer.  The astonishing lack of curiosity about that statement in the mainstream might win him the primary, but do you really want that playing on televisions during the general? 

The shoulder-rubbing and pool kid comment will become gospel among Trumpsters, just like the bs about Hillary's health, her emails, or Bill's misconduct. It might hurt him among some voters, but I doubt it will be decisive or significant as a factor.

Biden has one clear-cut, iron-clad defense against any anxieties about his creepiness: Not a single human being on Earth has ever alleged Biden has committed any sort of sexual misconduct of any kind, whatsoever.
I am willing to bet that that will stay the case. Unlike Trump, who has literally dozens of sexual misconduct allegations against him, some originating before he ever entered politics. Plus, Access Hollywood. Trump loses in a battle over creepiness any day, against almost anyone.

Nobody needs to accuse Biden of anything, because he admitted it on stage.  I'm not even saying I think he did anything.  I don't.  I think he's becoming easy prey for Trump.

LOL.
Your belief that trump has some kind of "advantage" over Biden, on accusing Biden of supposed "perverted acts" is hilarious.
I dare trump to bring-up something like this in a debate ... he would get pulverized to beach sand in two minutes flat.

[ProudModerate2]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1206959737297948672?s=20

This ad is going up on the air in South Carolina. This will resonate more than Bernie Sanders railing against "the estabwishment".

Absolutely love this ad.
Go Biden.

[ProudModerate2]

The rich aren't just stuffing all their money under the bed or something: even if I decide not to invest it, spend a moment of my time thinking about it, or anything fiscally related, all that money is still in the bank, being loaned out to businesses, innovators, and consumers, helping the economy grow, keeping capital lines open, and helping Americans of all stripes.

Factually incorrect. Banks do not loan bank deposits, nor is their ability to make loans in any way constrained by the amount of deposits deposited with them. Saying so is strictly a categorical error roughly equivalent to saying that "cows are a type of building."

There is no particular connection with how many bank deposits rich people (or poor people) have and the ability/willingness of banks to make loans, or of the desire/creditworthiness of firms (or people) to take out loans.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy

Banks do make loans on the basis of capital that is put into them. That's literally how banks work. Why else do you think banks would take deposits? They like paying you money in interest fees?

This is asinine.
My university Economics professor would beat you over the head with a baseball bat if you were in my class (and that was 25 years ago). One thing he would literally repeat over and over and over again (and it's forever in my head) is that "banks to not lend-out their customer's deposits."
Pick-up some books related to the banking industry and the federal reserve.

You sit there typing things like "your second point is BS" and "that's one of the dumbest takes on the left," but yet you are the one spewing full-blown diarrhea in your supposed facts on how banking works.

[ProudModerate2]

One last point - we shouldn't really derail this thread further because this is supposed to be the Biden megathread and has drifted off topic ...

Agree.

[ProudModerate2]

I get so angry at the fact that the one blunder of the Obama administration was they could of recessed appointed Merrick Garland, which could of saved Hilary failure of a campaign, and Obama isnt running for Prez, but Biden is. He can be blamed for that blunder, as well as his Ukraine corruption

[ProudModerate2]

Biden continues to pick up endorsements from Team Kamala in California:

https://theweek.com/speedreads/887981/joe-biden-picking-kamala-harris-old-california-endorsements

Biden is mostly holding steady and received a boost after he reportedly picked up a slew of endorsements from prominent California politicians, including Los Angeles District Attorney Jackie Lacey. Of the new endorsements, five had previously backed Harris, per Politico.

It's unclear if this trend of Harris-to-Biden jumpers will continue outside of California, but Harris actually had the highest number of congressional endorsements behind Biden when she decided to leave the race, so if there is consistent crossover between the two candidates, Biden could benefit even more in the long run from her departure from the race. Of course, there's always been speculation that the pair could eventually team up on a presidential ticket, as well.

Just as I suspected.

[ProudModerate2]

... it just not about Ukraine, it's about his gaffes like segregation and busing ...

LMAO. "Busing"?
Sometimes I wonder if you are for real.
I like reading your posts, but I take them all as 100% comedy.

[ProudModerate2]

https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

Dude.  You're linking John Solomon.
Just stop.

The UK started looking into Burisma as early as 2010, but they opened up a case around the same time Biden joined the board in the spring of 2014.  Ukraine opened up the investigation in August 2014, which lasted until January 2017.  The media previously reported that Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government after the case against Burisma had ended, but only the UK case had ended.  In February, the owner's property was seized by Slokin, and Hunter was about to be question over Burisma.  Then in March, the prosecutor is fired.  

You're parroting talking points from Devin Nunes, which were given Four Pinocchios by the Washington Post.  I'm sure you'll ignore this because WaPo is corrupt deep state media, unlike the totally trustworthy JohnSolomonReports.com.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/04/gop-tries-connect-dots-biden-ukraine-comes-up-short/

Don't even bother arguing with Hollywood.
He is trump troll who adores his Orange God.
All that Burisma talk of his, is rubbish.

[ProudModerate2]

https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

Dude.  You're linking John Solomon.
Just stop.

The UK started looking into Burisma as early as 2010, but they opened up a case around the same time Biden joined the board in the spring of 2014.  Ukraine opened up the investigation in August 2014, which lasted until January 2017.  The media previously reported that Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government after the case against Burisma had ended, but only the UK case had ended.  In February, the owner's property was seized by Slokin, and Hunter was about to be question over Burisma.  Then in March, the prosecutor is fired.  

You're parroting talking points from Devin Nunes, which were given Four Pinocchios by the Washington Post.  I'm sure you'll ignore this because WaPo is corrupt deep state media, unlike the totally trustworthy JohnSolomonReports.com.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/04/gop-tries-connect-dots-biden-ukraine-comes-up-short/

Don't even bother arguing with Hollywood.
He is trump troll who adores his Orange God.
All that Burisma talk of his, is rubbish.

This has been such a great day.  I posted URLs to my Twitter page, and 100 likes within an hour from Sanders and Trump people that had no idea this existed.  It's alway a great day when you find 100 d memorandums, e-mails, court documents, and pictures directly implicating so many Obama officials and Biden associates.  It's the most authoritative source on Burisma, and it's been sitting on the internet since the beginning of November.  This completely legitimizes Trump's concern over Biden's conduct in Ukraine, and there's real obstruction of justice cause he tries a last ditch effort to stop the Ukrainian prosecutor from prosecuting the founder and formally questioning his son.  There's an interview from the Burisma/Bluestar lawyer that basically lays out that entire  timeline, and it coincides with the Biden family's involvement in Ukraine in 2014.  Then there's the memo where the three U.S. official apologize for disseminating false information about the prosecutor.  If they continue to find more of these memos, then it's probably game over.

LOL.
What a clown.
Your fake data is such a huge revelation, that every single major news organization is talking about it.

[ProudModerate2]

https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

Dude.  You're linking John Solomon.
Just stop.

The UK started looking into Burisma as early as 2010, but they opened up a case around the same time Biden joined the board in the spring of 2014.  Ukraine opened up the investigation in August 2014, which lasted until January 2017.  The media previously reported that Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government after the case against Burisma had ended, but only the UK case had ended.  In February, the owner's property was seized by Slokin, and Hunter was about to be question over Burisma.  Then in March, the prosecutor is fired.  

You're parroting talking points from Devin Nunes, which were given Four Pinocchios by the Washington Post.  I'm sure you'll ignore this because WaPo is corrupt deep state media, unlike the totally trustworthy JohnSolomonReports.com.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/04/gop-tries-connect-dots-biden-ukraine-comes-up-short/

Don't even bother arguing with Hollywood.
He is trump troll who adores his Orange God.
All that Burisma talk of his, is rubbish.

This has been such a great day.  I posted URLs to my Twitter page, and 100 likes within an hour from Sanders and Trump people that had no idea this existed.  It's alway a great day when you find 100 d memorandums, e-mails, court documents, and pictures directly implicating so many Obama officials and Biden associates.  It's the most authoritative source on Burisma, and it's been sitting on the internet since the beginning of November.  This completely legitimizes Trump's concern over Biden's conduct in Ukraine, and there's real obstruction of justice cause he tries a last ditch effort to stop the Ukrainian prosecutor from prosecuting the founder and formally questioning his son.  There's an interview from the Burisma/Bluestar lawyer that basically lays out that entire  timeline, and it coincides with the Biden family's involvement in Ukraine in 2014.  Then there's the memo where the three U.S. official apologize for disseminating false information about the prosecutor.  If they continue to find more of these memos, then it's probably game over.

LOL.
What a clown.
Your fake data is such a huge revelation, that every single major news organization is talking about it.

Not credible.  These documents are the authoritative source.  It must be stunning for you to actually see documented proof of obstruction of justice.  Saving your business partner and your sign from prosecution by withholding foreign aid money unless the prosecutor is fired.  tss tss.
https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

Yes. Of course.
I'm rushing so quickly to go give you a "like" on your Twitter page.
It's so astonishing and revealing. Even better than when sliced bread was invented.

[ProudModerate2]

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti Endorses Joe Biden.

... In a release from the campaign, Garcetti calls Biden a “close, personal friend,” and credited Biden with helping the second-largest city in the country make progress on issues like climate change, and increasing the minimum wage.

“Democrats are blessed to have such an extraordinary field of candidates, but I will never forget what Joe Biden has done for my city and our nation. We need Joe Biden to bring our nation and world together during these most divided and dangerous times. I know that from day one, he will heal our nation, repair our relationships abroad and get things done — and will be a true partner in solving the national homelessness crisis."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/los-angeles-mayor-eric-garcetti-endorses-joe-biden/story?id=68179474

[ProudModerate2]

Biden uses Trump's own words to make his case in new ad.
Click this YouTube link to view ... https://youtu.be/KwvprD6506I

[ProudModerate2]

Man, why does Joe want people who have spent their whole lives paying into social security to die living under a bridge just so he can chum around with all the Republicans in Congress he loves so much?  These are tough questions!

[ProudModerate2]

Biden's idiot supporters arguing sincerely that he hasn't supported cuts to Social Security throughout his career has to be the most surreal thing I've ever witnessed in politics. This is a group of people genuinely more delusional than Trump supporters! It actually makes sense of how Trump is able to lie the way he does, to be quiet honest.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to voting for Hawkins in the general election should this decrepit sociopath be nominated.

An example of an over-the-top, ultra progressive nutjob from one of those cults.
Here, s/he even threatens to take his toys home with him, and vote for someone who has zero chance of winning. What a plan.

[ProudModerate2]

https://twitter.com/MegKinnardAP/status/1220176895041581057

Supporter of welfare reform Joe Biden running into significant opposition in South Carolina's black community.

One SC elected official says something, and it becomes "significant opposition in SC's black community."
K.
Please stop. You are better than this.

[ProudModerate2]

There are numerous Reports out over the last few Days that say that the Biden Campaign looks disorganized in Iowa.
It would be an absolute shock if he wins tomorrow.

It would be somewhat surprising, but by no means an "absolute shock."

That Atlas poster has been spamming the same supposed "numerous reports" in various threads today.

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https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1235278606651322373?s=20